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For anybody who held grudging respect for Captain Kirk (Freep Warning)

These quotes so perfectly encapsulate the Sparty mindset and their inability to accept their position as the number 2 team in Michigan (at least from the perspective of the local and national buzz they create) that they almost seem fake.  It's the Freep, so maybe they are.  Nonetheless, they are truly delicious.

 

"Or they'll root for me every game but one," said Cousins, a fifth-year senior and third-year starter. "That's when you start to realize who is with you and who is not with you.

"It's like saying ... I'm for you, but I'm not for your wife and kids. The bottom line is you're either for Michigan State and for Kirk or you're not. There is no in-between. I think this game is a perfect example of that, and that's why it's so personal."

 

http://www.freep.com/article/20111014/SPORTS07/110140447/Michigan-State-QB-Kirk-Cousins-Showdown-U-M-personal-

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October 14th, 2011 at 7:09 AM | For the record, I am NOT. (Score:5 Normal)
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The bottom line is you're either for Michigan State and for Kirk or you're not.

 

For the record, I am NOT.

"the Spirit of Michigan...is based on a deathless loyalty to Michigan and all her ways....and a conviction that nowhere is there a better university, in any way, than this Michigan of ours" - Fielding Yost
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October 14th, 2011 at 8:46 AM | Second'd (Score:1)
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Second'd

"Michigan isn't going to lose a game" - Fielding Yost, 1901

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October 14th, 2011 at 10:32 AM | Samesies. (Score:1)
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Samesies.

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October 14th, 2011 at 11:18 AM | I am for (Score:1 Normal)
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I am for Kirk............Getting violently pile driven by Mike Martin...Maybe Dr. Cousins can repair his own dislocated shoulder:)

GO BLUE

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October 14th, 2011 at 11:43 AM | Im definitely not for someone (Score:4 Normal)
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Im definitely not for someone who refers to themself in the 3rd person

 

 
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October 14th, 2011 at 2:41 PM | OldManUfer agrees (Score:1)
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OldManUfer agrees

God bless every single one of your cotton pickin' Maize and Blue hearts

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October 14th, 2011 at 7:33 AM | You Nailed It (Score:-1 Normal)
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Kirk Cousins is a bad kid.  No parent would want their son to turn out like Kirk Cousins.

Can you imagine if your child were quoted for 4 years as often as Kirk has been?

Overall, I think he does a pretty good job.

Plus, I know from personal experience that the kid does more for other children than 99% of us.

 

But you don't like his rivalry quote.

Go Green!!

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October 14th, 2011 at 7:48 AM | No one is insinuating that (Score:5 Normal)
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No one is insinuating that Kirk Cousins is a bad kid.  Not very rational of you, RationalMSUfan.  I'm sure he does a lot for kids and all, and thats great, because they can give him the unrequited love that he seems to be so desparately longing for.  It must be hard to have friends when you make such a finite distinction between those who support you and those who don't.

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October 14th, 2011 at 7:53 AM | Cousins is not a bad kid...howeva (Score:3 Normal)
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I don't like his rivalry quote because its wrong for anyone whos second favorite team is Michigan State, and wrong for anyone who happens to like Kirk Cousins but not Michigan State.

For the record:  Michigan State is not my second favorite team, and I don't care one way or the other about Kirk Cousins.

So.... if Sparty is Kirk's wife, who are the kids?  Makes more sense now why Sparty wears a skirt.

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October 14th, 2011 at 8:17 AM | Irrational... (Score:5 Normal)
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Sorry, temporarily irrational MSU fan, but Cousins comes off as a spoiled little baby with this quote.  After all of the press he got for his pre-season speech, it's almost sad to see him reveal that he is, indeed, nothing special.  

Really, though, it should come as no surprise.  I have said that MSU is overrated all along, and wasn't really all that impressed with his pre-season, Sparty evangelism.  Apparently, Cousins wasn't quite ready for the Thom Brenneman-Tim Tebow-style butt-kissing he has gotten from the media.  

Anyone who cheers for Michigan is "agianst Kirk Cousins."  Puh-leeze.  The massive MSU inferioity complex rears its rather humorous head yet again.  It is time for Kirk Cousins to see how many people are "against Kirk Cousins" when he eats turf numerous times on Saturday.

 

 

 

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October 14th, 2011 at 8:57 AM | Look, I understand that you wnat to defend (Score:1)
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your QB, as you should. However, you don't have any reasoning behind it. What does # of quotes during a 4 year period mean anyway? Why is that relevant? If he does more for the kids, give examples or data.

Sparty, it's 1 day before the game, up yours!

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October 14th, 2011 at 10:26 AM | Parenting (Score:4 Normal)
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 No parent would want their son to turn out like Kirk Cousins.

I can confidently and reasonably say that I never want either of my two boys referring to themselves in the third person.  (Or talking to the FREEP, for that matter.)

"Come on, you Wolverines!"

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October 14th, 2011 at 7:19 AM | The Answer To "What Would Kirk Do?" (Score:2)
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He would say something...well...a bit middle school. Can your respect for a person actually dip below zero if that person is Kirk Cousins? We should get Mathlete on that one.

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October 14th, 2011 at 7:24 AM | Only a Sith... (Score:5 Normal)
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...Deals in absolutes.

 

Fuck it, Dude, let's go bowling.

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October 14th, 2011 at 8:30 AM | So...you're a Sith? (Score:0 Redundant)
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October 14th, 2011 at 8:43 AM | No (Score:5 Normal)
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I'm married with children. I only live to serve.

Fuck it, Dude, let's go bowling.

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October 14th, 2011 at 8:46 AM | That's 2 absolutes so far ;) (Score:0 Normal)
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Although, I'm married too, and I know all the absolutes that entails.

 

The line  from the movie is poor, that's all I was getting at.

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October 14th, 2011 at 10:21 AM | Hold on, here. (Score:5 Normal)
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Are you saying there was a dumb line in a Star Wars movie? Get the eff out of here.

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October 14th, 2011 at 7:25 AM | posted from iPhone (Score:5 Normal)
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It looks like Devin Gardner will choose Michigan.

All in for some manball.

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October 14th, 2011 at 7:28 AM | I'm sorry Kirk (Score:5 Normal)
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But I am really not with you. That is a terrible, terrible analogy you've just conjured up.

Also, while you're reading this, tell your parents how much it annoys me that they named you Kirk Cousins instead of Kurt Cousins, because there is no easy way to pause in between the two k sounds. It makes me hate you even more on a linguistic level, which is hard to accomplish.

Mike Martin told me he loves me. My life is quite possibly complete.

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October 14th, 2011 at 7:33 AM | Spartan grammar (Score:5 Normal)
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Guess he hasn't gotten to personal pronouns yet.

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October 14th, 2011 at 7:37 AM | Also from yesterday. (Score:2)
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http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/um-msu-comparison-weddings-and-funerals-what-motivates-players

For anyone who wants to add or update on personal motivation of a guy who has confidence issues/Little Brother Syndrome (LBS).   

Fuck it, Dude, let's go bowling.

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October 14th, 2011 at 7:45 AM | Taken out of Context? (Score:5 Normal)
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I hope these quotes were taken out of context....either that, or Kirk needs to lighten up a little bit. I understand that we are all very passionate about our respective teams/universities, and for Kirk Cousin's it is even more so because he's right in the middle of it, but c'mon man...........when all is said and done, it's just a football game that is being played saturday. Win or Lose, there are much more important things in life to get your panties all tangled up about. We also have to remember that he is still a college kid too, and despite his buttoned up and cerebral attitude, he is still young.

With that the case, I wouldn't base my "respect" of Kirk Cousins on his views/feelings of the Michigan/MSU rivalry - Everything I've read about him is that he is an exceptional kid and one that we should praise. I would say absolutely that I respect him and would love to have a kid like that as part of our University.

Having said that, if these quotes aren't taken out of context and if he does have strong feelings towards those who cheer for UofM, he needs to chill, relax and realize that it's all in good fun and just a game.

 

Nothing personal.

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October 14th, 2011 at 7:50 AM | You can praise him but Kirk (Score:4 Normal)
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You can praise him but Kirk doesnt care.  Either you're for Michigan State and Kirk or you're not.

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October 14th, 2011 at 8:46 AM | Fuck'em (Score:4 Normal)
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He could of walked on at UM, I'm against him.

Fuck it, Dude, let's go bowling.

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October 14th, 2011 at 10:15 AM | But (Score:3 Normal)
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We have not come to East Lansing to praise the sparties, we've come to bury them.

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October 14th, 2011 at 8:05 AM | If you read the article (I (Score:2)
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If you read the article (I know, I know, Freep) it sounds like he's talking about some his former HS classmates and people in the Holland area.  As in, they want him to do well but ultimately want Michigan to win the game.

Either way, it's a weird article and some bizarre quotes for sure.  It sounds like he is, in fact, very personally hurt by everyone he knows not hardcore rooting for MSU.

"The difference between a man and a boy is, a boy wants to grow up to be a fireman, but a man wants to grow up to be a giant monster fireman."

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October 14th, 2011 at 8:51 AM | (Score:2 Normal)
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i have cousins that went to school with him in hs and this article pretty much sums up the vibe i get from them. captain kirk needs to remember that two of his hs classmates play for the school he will be facing tommrow. just because he is the qb of mooo u doesnt make them less worthy of the support of his old classmates

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October 14th, 2011 at 9:41 AM | who from Holland Christian plays for UM? (Score:2)
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I must admit I do not know who they are. Walk-ons?

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October 14th, 2011 at 10:06 AM | man oh man (Score:3 Normal)
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The more you know.  Thanks.

(I'd have Googled it but I was on the Droid app...on the can.  Aw hell, I should've Googled it anyway.)

"The difference between a man and a boy is, a boy wants to grow up to be a fireman, but a man wants to grow up to be a giant monster fireman."

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October 14th, 2011 at 12:07 PM | Broekhuizen & Brink. (Score:1)
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Broekhuizen & Brink.

EDIT: Derp.  This is what happens when you open a tab at 9am because you want to read it at lunch, then don't refresh.

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October 14th, 2011 at 9:11 AM | I agree. I know that if one (Score:1)
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I agree. I know that if one of my friends went to MSU to play football and found success, I would wish nothing but the best for him. However, as a lifetime Michigan fan / now student, I feel like a rational friend would not expect me to completely alter my lifestyle and habits to support HIM and HIS SCHOOL over MY SCHOOL. As someone previously stated, there's that inferiority complex; everyone should cheer for State because I'M HERE! Why would you be a Michigan fan!?!? Don't you realize a local kid is playing quarterback at State! I'm offended! 

 

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October 14th, 2011 at 9:25 AM | Exactly this. Quotes seem clearly out of context. (Score:2)
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I didn't read the article, but... Cousins probably does find it annoying when people come up and say things like, "hey, I want you to do really well on Saturday but I'm rooting for the Wolverines". His comments appear to be a response to that kind of sentiment, and in that context they are not unreasonable or sophomoric. I wouldn't be surprised if the reporter asked a question like, "what do you say to someone who tells you..." Then, once the article is published, Cousins looks like a dork. This seems to happen frequently in journalism. Much ado about nothing.

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October 14th, 2011 at 9:38 AM | "for Kirk" (Score:2)
MH20
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The third person reference is definitely weird.

"The difference between a man and a boy is, a boy wants to grow up to be a fireman, but a man wants to grow up to be a giant monster fireman."

- Jack Handey

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October 14th, 2011 at 8:09 AM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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All these dumb comments will stop when Michigan shuts them up.



Please let that be on Saturday.

University of Tom Brady, B.A. '10; University of Peyton Manning, J.D. '13.

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October 14th, 2011 at 8:21 AM | Hypocrisy (Score:2 Normal)
St Pete Schembechler
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This kid drinks more Sparty kool-aid than his fans do. He acts as if he was predestined to be the MSU QB. As I recall from the speech that the Green contingent seems to continually gush over, "Captain Kirk" desperately wanted to be a Hawkeye, or a Wildcat, or a Boilermaker (talk about violating his own rules about being 'for' something). It was only when he was headed straight for the MAC that Dantonio came calling. Sparty was one of the last places the good "Captain" thought he'd end up, so fogive me for not buying his "no in-between" shtick.

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October 14th, 2011 at 8:40 AM | In the words of the late, (Score:4 Normal)
mGrowOld
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In the words of the late, great Al Davis.....Just win baby.

And all the Sparty nonsense goes away.

 

 

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October 14th, 2011 at 10:08 AM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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I wish that were true but the Sparty nonsense is everlasting. What might change is how much anyone outside of their fanbase pays attention to it.

 

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October 14th, 2011 at 8:42 AM | I think we're being a little (Score:3 Normal)
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I think we're being a little hard on the Beav here. If we gave the e-smackdown to every athlete who viewed the world as an "us vs. them" proposition and referred to himself in the third person, we'd have no time to post threads about mostly innocent but maybe a little misguided comments by other teams' players.

BOOM WORMHOLE'D

On the other hand it is hate week, so carry on.

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October 14th, 2011 at 8:44 AM | Yeah, he derped (Score:1)
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The surprise is not that he derped, but that it took him this long...

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October 14th, 2011 at 8:50 AM | My only beef with this quote (Score:3 Normal)
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My only beef with this quote is that if I read it correctly, he referred to himself in the third person. That's just wierd.

Your friendly neighborhood contrarian.

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October 14th, 2011 at 8:56 AM | For or Against (Score:1)
ItsaDamnGame
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I like Kirk Cousins, I like that he's from a small Christian school that hadn't had an established football program when he played there - and he's a good kid.  I tolerate MSU, like I tolerate NW and Illinois.  I hate Mark Dantonio and I hope the team he coaches loses miserably every weekend.

-The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

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October 14th, 2011 at 9:02 AM | I don't see how this quote should change (Score:1)
TXmaizeNblue
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I don't see how this quote should change my perception of Kirk Cousins?  What's he supposed to say "UofM is going to beat us, you should root for them, and celebrate their awesomeness!"   I realize this is hate week, but come on man.  If Denard said the same thing everyone on here would be praising and defending those comments.  

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October 14th, 2011 at 9:36 AM | Really? We would like Denard (Score:2 Normal)
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Really? We would like Denard referring to his teammates as his wife and kids? I admire that he sees himself as part of a unit and you can't like one part of the unit without liking the whole unit, but we wouldn't admire Denard for saying something like this.

Also, does anyone else find it funny that MSU took such offense to being called Little Brother but Kirk Cousins is carrying on the family anology when referring to his team?

 

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October 14th, 2011 at 9:17 AM | Reminds me a little of the (Score:1)
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Reminds me a little of the great William Shatner himself...saying strange things and looking a little odd.

Difference is WS is likeable...while little brother Kirk is decidedly not

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October 14th, 2011 at 9:24 AM | This shouldn't be an issue (Score:3 Normal)
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This shouldn't be an issue for MSU going forward.  It's unlikely that their next starting QB will be from Michigan, what with their national recruiting class and all, so he won't feel the same about the rivalry and people from his hometown won't be torn like this.

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October 14th, 2011 at 9:36 AM | I know this was in jest, however (Score:2)
MH20
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Andrew Maxwell, their current backup, is from Midland, I believe. Sorry to be a stupid killjoy.

"The difference between a man and a boy is, a boy wants to grow up to be a fireman, but a man wants to grow up to be a giant monster fireman."

- Jack Handey

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October 14th, 2011 at 9:58 AM | Nah man, didn't you hear? (Score:2)
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Nah man, didn't you hear? They're pulling in 4 and 5 stars left and right.  Can't keep talented kids like that from California, Florida and Texas off the field for long.  Highly rated recruits from out of state don't go to State to ride the pine.  Then again, they really don't go to State much at all.  

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October 14th, 2011 at 10:05 AM | lol (Score:2)
MH20
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How silly of me to forget about their annual top-5 national recruiting classes.  Stealing Max Bullough's little brother from USC, Florida, Texas, and Bama was straight thievery!

"The difference between a man and a boy is, a boy wants to grow up to be a fireman, but a man wants to grow up to be a giant monster fireman."

- Jack Handey

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October 14th, 2011 at 9:26 AM | Go Blue! (Score:1)
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I like Kirk Cousins a lot and see no problem with his quote.  He's telling it like it is.  The rest of the year a lot of Michigan fans will tolerate MSU because they have friends, relatives, co-workers or even customers that are green.  In fact, I sold MSU $500,000 of air pollution control equipment and made a nice chunk of change.

But this week, you've got to pick sides.  I respect him for going all in for Sparty.  That's what so great about the rivalry.  They really want to kick our ass, and we theirs.

It's going to be a great war.

Go Blue!

"This is Michigan."

- Brady Hoke

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