You suck. No sugarcoat.
I see the stadium in the overhead shots and I feel sick. What an embarrassment.
I am equally disappointed. When there is as much red as there is maize and blue its pretty embarrassing. We can't give away our home field advantage.
i was getting the same feeling. i thought it was just my tv, but i guess not
I have to second that as well. So sad to see the big house with all that red. But hopefully the ones that show up are loud enough to make up for all the fair weather fans that sold their tickets!
Maybe if the team was any good or had any shot of winning, they wouldn't have. Oh well, Harbaugh or Kelly should be here soon, it's pretty obvious that the administration is looking for ways to get a new coach here. Never seen a program admit to something as inane as not keeping workout logs before.
Your reading comprehension skills are apparently as poor as your writing skills. You fail at life, failboy.
So an internal audit means that someone else figured it out? Failtacular, good job.
Go cheer for the Buckeyes, dickbag. I'm sick and tired of trash like you and Tomhagan trying to ruin this season for those of us who actually love this team and not just being able to brag about college football to our coworkers on Monday. You're scum.
I am also sick and tired of the newbies, trolls and those so weak that they need the negativity. When this thing turns around (and we saw some signs of it today)I don't want them around.
Nice post. Best wishes.
So you're fair-weather fan, then. Duly noted. Go jump in a fire.
I'm not, and when the program is in the dumpster, the coach doesn't get my undying love. The program is at it's lowest point ever. Investigations, players leaving, etc. It if it happens once or twice, maybe it's not a huge deal, but when it happens again and again, there has to be some substance to it. Has there ever been a coach that has come in with such negativity to a program and turned out to be successful or win a championship? What are the numbers on that one? Face it, the guy's a bust and the administration doesn't seem to be behind him. Direct quote from Martin on the log incident: "We're the ones who picked up the phone to call the NCAA about this." He's selling him down the river, and the alumni are steering the boat. Get a damn clue.
If you sell your ticket before the O$U game because you've resigned yourself to a loss, you're fairweather fan. Period. I don't give a fuck who the coach is.
I never had ticket to this game and I'm not even in the state. I'm just saying that it's not shocking that it happened.
You're defending it, and sympathizing with it. Go find another team.
It's a fundamental principle of business: people will not support a failing product, and it doesn't get a whole lot worse than this product.
Yes, because the decision to root for Michigan football is equivalent to people not buying a betamax. Because people had an emotional investment in a betamax. Take your faux-B-School shit to a different site, asshole.
Dude, saying people will not support a failing product is not the way to argue against being called a fair-weather fan. It is, in fact, the exact definition of a fair-weather fan: someone who supports the team only when things are going well.
I'm sitting here in my UM gear as we write, watching and supporting the team. But it is impossible to argue with my point when so much of the damn stadium is wearing scarlet and gray. And calling me fair weather doesn't serve as an argument, it just proves that I'm right. If the program wasn't in the gutter, this wouldn't be happening, end of discussion. And who took us to the gutter?
Well, the Lions were selling out games for years despite being crap the past 5-6 years.
This team is 5-7 with a bunch of freshmen and no continuity. That isn't a great record, but it shows growth.
How about you find some other team to root for. Nobody here is preaching undying loyalty, but 2 years with little talent on either side of the field doesn't point toward winning seasons.
...that you never had a ticket, and aren't even in the state.
you are a f**kin dumbass
Did something happen with the workouts logs?
Nothing new, but a new angle was put on it by the Vs. network guys, and they have a point. Workout logs are most likely shady at every major program in the nation, so why was UM so eager to report theirs? Seems like someone's trying to pile on and oust him. Never heard that before, but with the rise of Harbaugh at Stanford I have to say it makes some sense.
Seriously, what planet are you on? There is no way Harbaugh will ever coach Michigan. He burned his bridges, he's got diarrhea of the mouth, has no class, and wants to jump to the NFL. Do us all a favor and take a long walk off a short pier.
Very good, and well-written rebuttal to my post. You are clearly a football expert.
Very good, and well-written rebuttal to my post. You are clearly a football expert.
Thank you your insightful, well-written posts.
I look forward to seeing you on this board for years to come. You are a great fan, and a man amongst boys.
Two for one on the negs, now please LEAVE!
Thanks for your well-thought out comment. Here's a giant FUCK YOU from me.
hey everyone, justin boren's joined the mgocommunity!
really, i read your comments about economics and whatnot. what you fail to acknowledge is that while sports are a business, things like ticket sales, merchandise, and whatnot, especially at a school like michigan which has such storied tradition and support, is a function of emotion. do you really think that people who have supported this team so fervently for so many years are just going to start giving away these tickets to the enemy? do you really believe that the michigan fanbase, or any fanbase at a major school in the country, is that fickle?
if you truly believe that, i feel sorry for you.
regardless, this michigan team played amazing fire today, especially that defense. they left it all out of the field. we made too many mistakes on offense, otherwise, we're going bowling. and they weren't bad playcalls - they were execution errors by a young quarterback who's at times in over his head.
Isure as hell do, was the stadium sold out before Bo came in the late '60's? And how can you argue when you clearly saw that fans abandoned the team in droves today. The difference now is that the team isn't good like it was for all those years. So yes, the fans are that fickle. Obviously.
How is fickle different than fairweather? The OP lit into fans being fairweather and you came on to justify their actions and now you're admitting they're fairweather?
Is that Michigan fans UM shirts in maize, blue, white, grey, etc.
I agree that there are way to many OSU tools at the game, but visually they look to be in greater numbers because they're all wearing scarlet.
It'd be nice if Michigan fans would go all one color like Texas A&M or Penn State
Well one probelm there is that a lot of people want to wear maize but they want to wear a jersey which is blue or white so you get a mix of all 3. if we picked maize no one could wear a jersey
A big part of the problem is weather. Maize-outs are easy early in the year, because most of the people in the stadium have or can get the maize t-shirts.
As the season goes on, though, people begin to bundle up. Four years in that stadium taught me that most people don't have maize clothing for winter weather, and it can be hard to pull that t-shirt that fit perfectly in the fall over a coat or multiple layers.
It's a lot easier to find blue winter clothing, but as we've seen in the past the maize shows much better both in the stands and on the TV cameras.
and get them to produce a shit-ton of maize hoodies and give M-Den and others some money to recoup the loss to sell them 30% cheaper than Blue ones.
A little bit of your soul goes along with every ticket you sell to an OSU fan. Seriously, too much red. I hope the OSU fans I know just look over this. Do not want to hear it from them.
Seeing the overhead shot from the blimp pisses me off. It looks like more than half the stadium is red. I would rather eat my ticket and have my seat be empty instead of selling it to one of hicks. Horrible.
Yeah, I got a text from an OSU fan I know at the beginning of the game saying something about it. I blew him off, then when I saw the shot from the air my heart sank. These "fans" always want to throw around words like unacceptable when talking about Michigan football the last two years. Well, bailing on your team like this because of a little adversity is unacceptable.
What you have to realize is that good teams NEVER go through adversity. You look at the truly elite teams like Alabama, Nebraska, Florida, USC, Notre Dame, and Ohio State, and you see that they have never had to endure such trials as these seasons we have had to watch. A losing season is unacceptable. And Rich Rod is clearly an incompetent coach if he cannot muster a bowl out of 19 Freshman.
So all you people who think that these fans are "fair weather" or are "pussies", remember that if we are an elite program, we should never have to think about adversity, attrition, updating to the times, or progress. The real elite programs don't have down years.
Bill Callahan (Nebraska)
Joe Kuharich, Gerry Faust, & Weiss (ND)
J.B. Whitworth & Mike DuBose (Bama)
Paul Hackett (USC)
Paul Bixler (OSU)
all say hello
Douchiest douches that ever douched. You seriously need to die in a car fire made of cholera and H1N1.
And ebola. And AIDS.
A friend bought the all in pack for give aways for his business. For this game he had row 4 on the corner.
Since the last loss not one of the local fair weathers who were alo clients wanted the tickets. He offered them to us but we couldn't go.
He sold them on craig's list to an OSU fan for $450, making back half his outlay.
Sometimes you have to do the right thing for you and your wallet.
You'd pimp your daughter to some Buckeyes, is that what you're saying? It'd be the right thing for your wallet.
Bullshit. If the $450 mattered to him, he could have, you know, NOT BOUGHT THE FUCKING ALL-IN PACKAGE.
I understand these are tough times, and money is tight. If money's tight, WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU BUYING SEASON TICKETS.
...sold them to, you know, another Michigan fan - there are always Michigan fans that want to go. It's not hard to find them
Extreme dickhead reloaded:
Your douchebaggery, pissantness, penchant for making up "facts" to support your "logic," and multiple posts in support of untenable arguments are a carbon copy of the "work" of the "vile troll" of mlive and freep. Freep, mlive, and even A2.com have allowed their standards to sink so low that you probably even feel welcome there.
Well, moron, I have news for you:
As you can see from your negbang totals, you are definitely NOT welcome here. Please be so kind as to take your trailer trash logic back to the park where it belongs, and leave the commentary to those with IQ's in triple digits.
And while you're at it, maybe you should take a little more Xanax before you post over there.
...for a good ole fashioned mgoblog neg gangbang. Might even be enough to lift my spirits just a fraction
Chump, dick, wuss, douchebag, asshole, prick, cheater, bitch, whore, slut.
I gotta say I was disappointed as well. Hell I live in Ontario and I was trying to convince my buddy to drive us down, unfortunately NHL hockey tickets reign supreme here . He doesn't like college football so I told him I would pay for his ticket as well.
The ushers take attendance of opposing fans at rivalry games. If you have sold your tickets to an opposing team's fans, you get a warning the first time (unless it is The Game). Second infraction (or if you sold your tickets to Buckeye fans): you loose your status. Next year you go to the back of the line for season ticket priority, and a more deserving fan gets your seats.
As bad as Benedict Boren .....
Too hard to enforce.
I didn't see the "proposed" the first time I read this.
There is no excuse for selling your tickets to a Buckeye fan.
That stadium was so red it was embarrassing.
I think whoever sells their tickets to an OSU fan should be banned from purchasing them from the Athletic Department. I am proud of the team. I am disgusted with our fans.
My heart actually ached seeing that much red in our stadium.
When so many important recruits were in town and for one day, our defense played like heroes. And they had to see that shit.
I honestly dont think it was as bad as you all are making it out - yes there were more OSU fans than usual - a drop off in our fair weather fans is expected in a down year. To my eyes the OSU red just popped a lot more, making the slight increase seem like a big increase.
However, this thread is turning it into a bigger deal than it was - which I think will have a bigger impact on recruits, many of whom frequent this site, than the OSU/UM ratio would have had.
I semi-agree, I don't really think the stadium was more than 30-40% OSU... but still. And the crowd was near silent.
I think it was more like 15-20%. However, that's still far more than it should be (the visitor's allotment is about 5%). I thought the Michigan fans who were at the game were pretty good, though. I was able to stand for the entire game. I don't think I've ever done that before outside of the student section.
What section were you in? It only got quiet real late, by Michigan standards it was a pretty good crowd I thought(talking about noise, not attendance). I was in section one.
I was at the game and it was bad. It was really embarrassing.
you people sewks
I started a thread on it (cheap self plug)
But since this one seems to be rolling already, here's the guy to email if anyone around you had sold their seats to OSU fans-
I'm through talking and complaining. Time to take action.
Edit...address didn't appear [email protected]
I cringed badly when they showed the stadium. Student section looked great though.
It's bullshit. And all of you who left early should be ashamed of yourself. I wasn't shy about letting people know as they left.
of some of the effect seen today.
For about four years, with drawn-up plans to perform in-bowl renovations to match the outer-bowl new construction, the athletic department has been "banking" all of the non-renewed season tickets. With those "banked" seats, the athletic department plans to be able to do aisleway widening, handrail additions and (hooray) widened seat-numbering in 2010 and beyond, with a minimum of inconvenience and movement to existing season ticket seat holders.
In the meantime, it means that the Athletic Department has larger numbers of individul and/or package tickets to sell. And those game tickets can be picked up by anybody. Really, even a complete shithead like "exmtroj re-loaded" could buy one of those packages if he had cared to. But he "didn't have a ticket and isn't even in the state."
If you had wanted to conduct an experiment, all you had to do was ask to see the tickets of any of those OSU fans; they would surely have been small and white, not the larger color photo-background tickets that go to season ticket holders.
This problem will be less and less of an issue in the future, as season-ticket assignments within the bowl get settled after renovations are completed.
What I am hearing is blah, blah, blah "down in front" blah, blah, blah.
I would rather give my tickets to a UM fan than sell them to someone from OSU. Makes me want to puke.
I would rather give my tickets for free to a homeless bum then an osu fan
was UNACCEPTABLE and disgusting. Three rows behind me was a group of eight OSU fans and right in front of me were three more. The whole upper section of the South end zone was all red.
The worst part, they were louder with their bullshit O-H-I-O chant all around the stadium. They were well-coordinated and our band could barely drown them out. It was embarrassing.
If you sold your tickets to OSU fans you deserv to lose them. I don't give a shit about the economy, your financial choices or the state of the program. Real Michigan fans don't sell their seats to Buckeye fans EVER.
If you sold yours to them, get the fuck out!