Any specific OL recruits Frey might help close on/flip?

Submitted by anywaytodelete… on

Gotta ask, even if there's only a week to go before signing day and odds are slim to none.

Any o lineman out there that Frey would never have had a chance to pull in at Indiana, but who lives close enough to Bloomington that Frey might have crossed paths with him and attempted to build a relationship?

There's always Becton, but wondering about someone who isn't on the board and/or already committed elsewhere.

His Dudeness

January 25th, 2017 at 4:19 PM ^

It's best to think of these ratings as tiers.

I think they are probably in the same tier.

Once you get past the #1 composite player at a position you could likely take #2-#20 as tier 2 #20< as tier 3 or whatever.

The difference between #60 and #90 at a position is very slim is what I am saying.

Alumnus93

January 25th, 2017 at 6:17 PM ^

This is true..... and to add...  the spotlight and expectations, are very high at Michigan. So is the size of the school and many prefer to play at smaller ones.... Didn't that QB  RR was after, a kid from Tulane area Shavorick Beaver I think, prefer to play for the smaller program?   Some people may want a smaller spotlight and take it easier, and there is nothing wrong with this.   

However, with responsibilites come massive benefits, and some want them, and some don't care... Michigan's program after football is phenomenal, with the alumni support.

Steve in PA

January 25th, 2017 at 8:38 PM ^

i had to google him since I remember the board being very disappointed about that and settling for Tate-something.  He took the small school thing to the extreme.  Midwestern State University.  I'm still not certain what state that is even located in.

bacon

January 26th, 2017 at 5:08 AM ^

I get what you're saying, but he committed to an indiana team with a new head coach and OL coach it's a different team now.  Not to mention they named the old DC as head coach and their defense was not good.  Sure he didn't have a lot to work with, but they gave up 27 points to Rutgers.  It seems likely that they replace him and the rest of the staff during the next 4 years.  Michigan is going to have Harbaugh for a long time.

reddogrjw

January 25th, 2017 at 3:12 PM ^

I can't think of anyone else we're even pushing for at this point

 

also remember that several DL commits could flip over to the offensive side if needed, but I think 5-6 this class and maybe 4 in the 2018 class should be good

MGoMatt30

January 25th, 2017 at 3:07 PM ^

Exactly what I was wondering.

Even if they are lower profile guys that he thinks they can mold into great lineman down the road considering they could use a couple more bodies on the OL.  

Talent evaluation seems to be one of his strong suits so maybe he already has some guys identified they can move on in the last week (!!!) before signing day.

Night_King

January 25th, 2017 at 3:12 PM ^

I know he's listed as an OT, but I can't stop imagining Caleb Jones at D Tackle. I'm sure he would struggle getting low, but he just looks like a brick wall.

OwenGoBlue

January 25th, 2017 at 3:18 PM ^

6' 9" is too easy to move with a double team unless a guy is a generational talent with the strength and explosiveness to counter that. I can't even think of a DT who has been both good and that tall but John Henderson was 6' 7" (and played on the Jags with Marcus Stroud who was 6' 6").

Now if this were NCAA '18 his height would be a huge plus on the DL.

OwenGoBlue

January 25th, 2017 at 4:07 PM ^

Calais (and Wolfman's examples) are all DEs. Lots of tall DEs where height/arm length is a big advantage on the edge and you're not literally surrounded by lineman who can double you from either side.

There are other good tall DTs they're just pretty rare. I would guess if a 6' 9" guy had that kind of ability he would probably be a highly ranked recruit in 2017.

Watching From Afar

January 25th, 2017 at 4:27 PM ^

Campbell is a 3-4 "DE." He basically plays in a sudo-DT position. He's not usually outside on an OT, rather inside on the OG.

You're right, guys that tall usually aren't DTs. They're certainly never NT, but they sometimes play out of position in different schemes. Which I guess is pointless since Michigan doesn't go 3-4.

OwenGoBlue

January 25th, 2017 at 4:52 PM ^

Deserved response as I knew this but was lazy.

Our 3-tech DT and 3-4 DEs are similar-ish in alignment but Calais plays just a bit further out; mostly he's just an insanely good player so they can't move him anyway. He's a rare talent.

Speaking of Michigan DTs it was great to see Alan Branch dominate the other night (assuming even better for you, Boston). Great dude.

GhostofJermain…

January 25th, 2017 at 3:19 PM ^

Indiana was on him before he commited to MSU, any chance we kick the tires on another cass kid? I'd love Donovan Johnson 2, but everytime I post his name I seem to get mocked.  Having gone to 3 cass games the past 2 season DJ was to elite IMO. 

OwenGoBlue

January 25th, 2017 at 3:22 PM ^

The lack of attention they gave to DJ was surprising to me. I'm not shocked he didn't end up in the class but it didn't seem like there was even really any tire kicking on him as a backup plan.

I speculate they weren't terribly high on him and didn't pursue him as a backup plan to avoid the perception of another school "winning" a Cass battle with them.