Any Further Info on "Top 12 CFB Team to Get Whacked"? Could it be us?

Submitted by Beavis on

Based on what was posted here previously, about a top college football team about to be exposed for all of its cheating and rule breaking, is there any more news to report?

I have a friend who is like the FSU version of me.  He is nuts for FSU football and reads WarChant regularly.  He said he was listening to a Tallahassee radio guy today (one he regularly listens to - so he must have some credibility or the kid wouldn't waste his time), and he came up with 5 names he was constantly hearing / suspected.  Again, this is likely just some BS, but I figured it was worth sharing.

Four of the teams are OSU, LSU, Oregon, and Alabama.  The fifth team was us. 

Not to say this guy has any credibility or anything, but I do love to rumor monger. 

ish

March 2nd, 2011 at 5:30 PM ^

nothing wrong with a little rumor mongering.  i'm sure if it was us it would've been mentioned or part of the last investigation.  and to the extent that it is true, when news breaks, i'm sure you'll hear about it in no time.

cp4three2

March 2nd, 2011 at 5:32 PM ^

We let the NCAA investigate us.  You really think that the NCAA missed something so big that a major news outlet is going to let the cat out of the bag?   

 

The big rumor is Oregon using street agents in Texas to help recruiting.

bluenbama

March 2nd, 2011 at 6:15 PM ^

Cowherd announced on his show he had inside info about a top twelve program that was on the brink of being exposed for recruiting violations. Sports by Brooks inquired with the people at espn he k ew and they revealed that the program was Oregon. Sorry if that's not what you consider news worthy , but there is alot of actual info posted on twitter.

david from wyoming

March 2nd, 2011 at 6:18 PM ^

If ESPN is going to leak info to a competing website, why wouldn't they be running with that same story on their own website? It makes no sense at all that ESPN would just give info to someone else.

It's not news if it doesn't have a creditable source, it's just rumors.

mGrowOld

March 2nd, 2011 at 5:37 PM ^

We're back in the Top 12 Baby!!!! 

I knew Hoke could do it....just never expected results this quickly.

 

EDIT: I upvoted the OP as he clearly states he is rumor-mongering and tells us exactly what his source is.  When spreading unfounded, baseless rumors on the internets this is exactly what you are expected to do IMO.

 

The Blue in Ohio

March 2nd, 2011 at 5:32 PM ^

agreed, even though next season we will end up being ranked #1. currently we're not a top 12 team, so no need to fear. as for me, I'm betting it's osu, there's too many scum bags there for it not to be them.

Blazefire

March 2nd, 2011 at 5:32 PM ^

The NCAA just went through our entire program with a fine tooth comb. Everything. If there was anything suspicious going on, they found it. There is NOTHING ELSE TO FIND.

WolvinLA2

March 2nd, 2011 at 5:42 PM ^

Although your logic is calming, it doesn't mean we're off the hook.  The NCAA went through our program, absolutely.  Everything that was alleged was internal - practice logs, extra coaches, monitoring players in class, etc.  All of these were issues of running the program against the rules.

These big issues that gets kids busted are often external - agents, boosters, money, etc.  The NCAA could have scoured our program in 1992 and they probably wouldn't have found Ed Martin.  Same with USC in 2004, I doubt the NCAA would have found anything about Reggie Bush and his mom's house. 

Whatever happened that is so bad that a team is going to get in big time trouble, isn't internal.  If a player is getting paid, his name isn't going to show up on the university pay roll, he's probably getting money from a big time booster, and that wouldn't show up on a scour of the AD.  However, a media investigation might uncover it.  \

I'm not saying I think it's us because I don't.  If we've been cheating the last few years - we're the worst cheaters ever.

Blazefire

March 2nd, 2011 at 5:46 PM ^

As you said, they went through everything internal. They found nothing at all implicating anyone in the program of anything. If anything were happening, it would have to be 100% external with nobody in the program knowing anything about it.

This rumor, and lets not jump to conclusions that it's true, says that the institution was involved. People in whatever AD it is know about it.

Steve in PA

March 2nd, 2011 at 7:17 PM ^

If the best we could do was mostly 3-star guys with MAC offers, RR was a far worse coach/recruiter than any of us thought.  I love the kids we have, but if you're recruiting dirty you best be pulling in Alabama or USC calibre classes, otherwise the risk/reward is way out of whack.

WolvinLA2

March 2nd, 2011 at 5:54 PM ^

Yeah, but it takes a lot more than "people in the AD knowing about it" for the NCAA to catch you.  What I'm saying is, if we had boosters paying recruits to come here, and the coaches and AD knew all about it, it wouldn't come up during an NCAA investigation since I'm sure there would be no actual record of it happening. 

Again, I don't think it's us, but I'm confident that whatever this wrongdoing ends up being, wouldn't have been found by an NCAA investigation unless they knew what they were looking for.

jmblue

March 2nd, 2011 at 5:48 PM ^

I don't think this is true. I'm pretty sure the NCAA does not audit every aspect of a program, just the areas where there is suspected wrongdoing.  For example, I don't think they check the practice logs of a school that is suspected of recruiting violations.

jmblue

March 2nd, 2011 at 5:54 PM ^

That is not necessarily true.  There is no evidence that the NCAA ever expanded its scope beyond the immediate practice issue.  If they had expanded it to areas of recruiting, they'd have had to have interviewed HS coaches and the like, and it would have made the papers.  

We're probably not the guilty party here, simply because NCAA enforcement is very random.  But the fact that we just got put on probation in no way clears us. 

jmblue

March 2nd, 2011 at 6:09 PM ^

The NCAA has no legal authority to compel people to speak.  Consequently, when they investigate a program, people involved usually just refuse to talk.  That's what happened the first time they investigated our basketball program (in 1996-97).  It was only years later, after the FBI went after Ed Martin and the players he laundered money to, that the NCAA finally got the testimony it was seeking.  It's conceiveable that some legal issue could have come up that is offering the NCAA information it did not have before.

no joke its hoke

March 2nd, 2011 at 5:43 PM ^

I can see why the rumors are there. Besides all the shady stuff that program has done for the last 10 years the door is open for it to be them after tat-5 got busted. The fact the IRS was involved in that MAY have lead to other finds but this  far out I dont believe its them. I really believe its a program that hasnt been in any kind of trouble latley.

RobGoBlue1

March 2nd, 2011 at 5:48 PM ^

i doubt it is us if it was the NCAA probably would have said something already would be nice if it was osu or notre dame expose those them for the dirty bastards everybody knows they are

phork

March 2nd, 2011 at 8:51 PM ^

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david from wyoming

March 2nd, 2011 at 5:52 PM ^

Holy crap. Every sports radio jocky just trolls for listeners. No one knows anything about this other than the NCAA. Everyone else is just fishing for page hits or listeners.

MGoChippewa

March 2nd, 2011 at 11:34 PM ^

Not sure how that makes him a "shock jock" but for the hell of it I will defend Cowherd.  I doubt he does all the gathering of data for his show.  If that Wonderlic joke came across his eyes it most likely was dug up by a producer or some member of his show's team.