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Any Effect on Kozan?

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February 20th, 2012 at 2:24 AM
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Any Effect on Kozan?

First forum topic: Feel free to neg-bang me if desired (I know a few weeks ago there were a lot of posts about Alex Kozan, but I haven't seen much lately - I may have missed some updates?), but I was just wondering about all of your thoughts...

What do you think the effect on Kozan's decision is with all of these stud offensive linemen committing (none particularly suited for center)?  I feel like the coaching staff, if they are still pursuing him, could definitely convince him that this program is heading in the right direction!  A highly regarded quarterback is coming in along with a couple wide-outs and several highly ranked lineman that project to both tackle and guard!  Sorry, I am just super pumped right now!

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February 20th, 2012 at 2:27 AM
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Kozan will do Kozan.  At some

Kozan will do Kozan.  At some random point, he will make a decision and while I hope it is us, I won't get too upset if it isn't.  Dude has to do what he feels is the best fit for him

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February 20th, 2012 at 2:30 AM
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Agreed

I agree that I will not be too upset, but (bias acknowledged) if I were him...I would not be able to get my fax in quick enough!

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February 20th, 2012 at 2:32 AM
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There isn't much that I would

There isn't much that I would be "too upset" about right now lol

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February 20th, 2012 at 9:47 AM
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My girlfriend could leave me,

My girlfriend could leave me, family disown me, lose my job and still feel really good about this weekend. Not much to be upset about around here

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February 20th, 2012 at 2:29 AM
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who is this kozan you speak

who is this kozan you speak of? 

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February 20th, 2012 at 2:29 AM
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Here is an article to explain

Here is an article to explain what going on: http://www.thehawkeye.com/story/Cabin-burglar-021812

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February 20th, 2012 at 2:32 AM
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Just realized that from an

Just realized that from an Iowa newspaper.  They are keeping tabs on his recruitment.

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February 20th, 2012 at 2:35 AM
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I love it

A castaway from a polygamous sect.... Perfect.

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February 20th, 2012 at 11:17 AM
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Hard to get too spun on the kid when you get 4 more

on the way locked into next year. Takes a bit of the edge off.

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February 20th, 2012 at 2:31 AM
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I'd rather get Pocic at this

I'd rather get Pocic at this point.  I think the ship has sailed.

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February 20th, 2012 at 3:22 AM
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I agree. I think Kozan will be a transfer risk anyway

Better to take a kid who will be here and be here to win big. 

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February 20th, 2012 at 8:13 AM
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Pocic is a better prospect,

Pocic is a better prospect, but he can't play center.

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February 20th, 2012 at 2:14 PM
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bassmaster
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I agree, but he apparently said he's working on it

... so yeah, that's weird.

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February 20th, 2012 at 2:36 AM
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I honestly don't care at this point.

Take someone who 100% wants to be here.

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February 20th, 2012 at 4:13 AM
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Agreed. If Kozan is this

Agreed. If Kozan is this uncertain about where he wants to go, I'd wish him the best and move on.

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February 20th, 2012 at 9:28 AM
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Why so impatient?

I'll happily welcome him into the fold if/when he chooses to Go Blue.  I still fail to believe the lack of understanding of the stress a teenager could feel making what must feel like a huge commitment and likely the biggest decision of his life.

Just like it was tiring hearing the whiners talk about "not closing" our top 10/top 5 recruiting class, the folks who continue to throw out statements about Kozan not being 100% committed and moving on prove tedious as well.

Kozan is a great prospect and plays a position of need.  I couldn't care less if it takes him two months to decide.  I hope to see him on the field in the Big House sometime soon!

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February 20th, 2012 at 1:40 PM
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He wants Iowa

You have to feel he wants to go to Iowa.  He just wanted to wait to see who the OC and line coaches were going to be first.  Now he's just waiting to estabilish that relationship before he makes it official.  Why else would he wait?

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February 20th, 2012 at 2:38 AM
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I wonder if...

I wonder if Hoke and Company are even recruiting him anymore. By the look of things they've moved on to the 2013 class.

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February 20th, 2012 at 2:48 AM
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Pretty hard to recruit a kid

Pretty hard to recruit a kid who is on a Navajo vision quest up in the mountains.

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February 20th, 2012 at 10:28 AM
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I heard he was in the Spirit World.

We're in the spirit world, asshole.  Nobody can see us!

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February 20th, 2012 at 10:48 AM
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I hope he finds Jim Morrison

Then follows the weird naked Indian to Ann Arbor.

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February 20th, 2012 at 2:48 AM
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How long does

How long does Kozan have to sign his LOI?  I wonder when that runs out and he eventually is forced into making a decision.  Can he make more visits?  I hope for his sake (and ours) that he decides soon!

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February 20th, 2012 at 2:52 AM
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April 1st.

April 1st.

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February 20th, 2012 at 4:27 AM
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You don't have to sign an

You don't have to sign an LOI.  You can just enroll and show up.

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February 20th, 2012 at 2:51 PM
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Yes, but if you want to enjoy

Yes, but if you want to enjoy the second half of your senior year of HS, and not get blitzed with non-stop calls/texts/emails/tweets from coaches and recruiting media, you should sign one.

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February 20th, 2012 at 2:51 AM
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How can one effect that which

How can one effect that which does not exist?

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February 20th, 2012 at 2:56 AM
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No one has really heard from

No one has really heard from him because he's been quiet. There's an ongoing joke that he's been on a vision quest, so we'll find out when he gets back from:

Until then...who knows. Do I still want him? Yes. Does him coming to Michigan mean we might not be able to take someone like Ethan Pocic or Laremy Tunsil? Possibly. We'll see how things unfold. As has been said on many of the threads today, the four OL commitments have made the pill that we swallowed upon the rejections from Diamond and Garnett easier to take. I'm tired and I don't know if that last bit made sense.

 

 

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February 20th, 2012 at 3:06 AM
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Maybe Garnett and Diamond are

Maybe Garnett and Diamond are reading about our O-line haul this weekend and "they be like dang"!

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February 20th, 2012 at 10:58 AM
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Cope
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I laughed out loud

when I read Bosch comment on Stanford and say it was great but it came down to academics. Oh sweet revenge.

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February 20th, 2012 at 3:22 AM
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I think he would be a great

I think he would be a great addition at this point and if he does commit I think that our Oline recruiting should be finished unless an elite lineman (Pocic, and hell the way we're recruiting no reason to close the door on anyone, including Tunsil) wants to commit.

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February 20th, 2012 at 4:01 AM
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Where the hell IS Kozan?

Where the hell IS Kozan? Seems like he's vanished off the face of the Earth.

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February 20th, 2012 at 8:31 AM
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He's at Arbys

Roast beef sale.

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February 20th, 2012 at 11:00 AM
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Like Dildad

He is at the mall in an all-you-can-eat seafood restaurant until he truly eats all he can eat.

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February 20th, 2012 at 6:23 AM
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Is there a possibility that

Is there a possibility that this might end up being like Tony Posada?  Is there a chance that he doesn't really have the desire to play collge football at such a high level?

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February 20th, 2012 at 11:29 AM
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This occurred to me as well.

This occurred to me as well.

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February 20th, 2012 at 7:53 AM
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Red

Flag

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February 20th, 2012 at 8:43 AM
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well...

Assuming he has a finite amount of peyote, he'll show up naked in some Casey's in rural Iowa and describe his experience as a fugue state....

 

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February 20th, 2012 at 9:06 AM
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I wouldn't be shocked

I wouldn't be shocked to Kozan go the prep school route. Not because of grades, but to get another year to make up his mind.

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February 20th, 2012 at 9:09 AM
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Hard not to think

All of this scares Kozan off.  On one hand you have all of these young guys who just can't think of a reason NOT to declare themselves future Wolverines... and on the other hand you have a kid that's had over a year to decide and THEN almost an entire month to put it in ink, and yet he still isn't sure if he wants to be a Wolverine.

Obviously this guy has been crushed under the weight of this decision a bit... but now he also has to contend with the idea that next year he'll be competing with even more top flight talent.  Might be enough to scare him off.

Either that or he's still in the desert.  On that horse.  With no name.  With Jim Morrison.  With Peyote.

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February 20th, 2012 at 12:32 PM
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The peyote...

would provide the vision required to make a decision. Just blaze Alex! I've read that this particular narcotic is QUITE powerful.

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February 20th, 2012 at 9:33 AM
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Center...

We still need a center...Kozan and Dawson could have a nice little battle there in a couple years.

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February 20th, 2012 at 9:33 AM
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At Michigan,

a center needs to make quick decisions and anchor the OL. I'm not sure Kozan fits that bill.

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February 20th, 2012 at 10:31 AM
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Hoke and Company

Let me just say -- we should be clearly impressed! These guys to commit without even being on campus! And these are guys that want to GO BLUE! Kozan is a non-issue . . . those who want to be here are here!

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February 20th, 2012 at 10:32 AM
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Lindbergh Baby

I've been saying this for days now, Alex Kozan is the Lindbergh Baby, and his Letter of Intent is in Jimmy Hoffa's briefcase.

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February 20th, 2012 at 10:34 AM
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Shane Morris

Maybe we have not been able to lock down a center to date has another, more insidious reason.  Maybe Shane has really cold hands....

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February 20th, 2012 at 10:35 AM
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Arnold Schwarzenegger played Kozan the Barbarian

in two films. The character was originally created in 1932 by writer Robert E. Howard and appeared in a large number of pulp comics and paperbacks.

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February 20th, 2012 at 10:52 AM
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On to the next one

I do NOT want a recruit who isn't mentally prepared after a long process to make a decision.  Granted he is young, i get that and alot of pressure.  Each case is different but after all this time, if he hasn't found what he wants, probably never will.  Kozan is in the rearview...

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February 20th, 2012 at 11:32 AM
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Seriously?

You don't want a recruit because he's not ready to make a very important decision based off the timeline that you, ESPN and Rivals have set for him? 

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February 20th, 2012 at 10:58 AM
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I think the decision is more

I think the decision is more about playing center, rather than which school. With Fox on board, who is from a nearby school, he may be more likely to sign with us now. I'm betting he comes around and if the offer still stands Hoke will have his signature by April 1st. I hope we haven't moved on as Kozan is a 4* prospect from a very good program and could be our next Molk.

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February 20th, 2012 at 12:53 PM
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BrokenRhino
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Joined: 10/01/2011
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Still Walking

Kozan took Hoke a little to literally when he first took the job and it inspired him to walk to Michigan. Nobody has heard from him because he is still walking his commitment letter up here.

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