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Another player in the "Offer Who Beilein Offers" file

From the Rivals discussion board, here's a link to an interesting ESPN piece on Larry Nance, Jr., a kid Beilein was recruiting from the 2011 class. Beilein was looking at him as a late offer and I think we ended up taking Beilfeldt instead. Turns out he's having quite a nice season, at Wyoming of all places. It's pretty clear that Beilein and Company are some of the best evaluators of talent in the country.

As a random aside, it makes me wonder why Ben Braun didn't succeed more at Cal given that he seemed to have a similar eye as Beilein.

 

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January 9th, 2013 at 2:54 PM | Larry Nance, Jr. (Score:-1 Overrated)
cbuswolverine
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nvm

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January 9th, 2013 at 4:25 PM | Naked (Score:4 Normal)
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Vagina Monster?

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January 9th, 2013 at 3:09 PM | Curious to know (Score:2 Normal)
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What the similarities are between Braun and Beilein? Not trying to be a smart ass but I draw a blank at this comparison.

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January 9th, 2013 at 3:19 PM | Their last names start with (Score:5 Normal)
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Their last names start with B, their first names rhyme, and they've both coached in Washtenaw County. 

The swag is back. 

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January 9th, 2013 at 3:49 PM | Ben and John don't rhyme. (Score:3 Normal)
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Ben and John don't rhyme.

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January 9th, 2013 at 3:52 PM | You don't pronounce Ben like (Score:2)
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You don't pronounce Ben like Bawn? 

Just kidding, you got me - Braun and John rhyme, I got confused. 

The swag is back. 

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January 9th, 2013 at 3:56 PM | Actually, come to think of (Score:3 Normal)
jmblue
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Actually, come to think of it, Benjamin and Jonathan do sort of rhyme.

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January 9th, 2013 at 6:05 PM | Which do you say: Ben Brahn (Score:2)
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Which do you say: Ben Brahn or Jawn Beilein?

"We've beaten Michigan the last four years.  So where's the threat?"

- Mark Dantonio

Blogging the Virginia Cavaliers at http://fromoldvirginia.blogspot.com/<

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January 9th, 2013 at 3:13 PM | Double Post (Score:1)
twohooks
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Sorry.

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January 9th, 2013 at 3:25 PM | Eye for talent (Score:2)
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Braun, like Beilein, had a knack for identifying under-the-radar talent. Both coached at schools that were less than desirable in terms of attracting players, so they had to rely on scouting to get underrated players. Beilein's identification of guys like Gansy, Pittsnoggle, and Alexander, was impressive and reminds me of Braun's identification of players like Brian Tolbert, Earl Boykins, and Derrick Dial. Pretty impressive to three guys from one MAC team to the NBA (even though I don't think Tolbert made it out of rookie camp and Dial only played a few games for the Spurs). 

 

 

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January 9th, 2013 at 3:25 PM |   I went to look back at guys (Score:5 Normal)
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I went to look back at guys we were recruting and found this at http://www.umhoops.com/2011/02/21/recruiting-roundup-february-21st-2011/  its funny how recruting changes month to month.

Mitch McGary

McGary had 11 points and 12 rebounds for Brewster in the New Hampton Invitational. However, Michigan doesn’t appear to be among the talented post prospect’s favorites:

"I kind of have a top eight or nine," McGary said. "UConn, Florida, West Virginia, Pittsburgh, Villanova, Wisconsin, Miami, Indiana, and Arizona."

As soon as i get 100 points I'm up voting and down voting ever comment on this site!!!

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January 9th, 2013 at 3:34 PM | I watched his live (Score:3 Normal)
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I watched his live announcement on ESPN and was shocked that he picked Michigan.

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January 9th, 2013 at 3:51 PM | By the time he announced, I'm (Score:5 Normal)
jmblue
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By the time he announced, I'm pretty sure we were considered to be in the lead.  I was surprised only in the sense that I had gotten used to losing out on guys like him.

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January 9th, 2013 at 5:07 PM | yea (Score:4 Normal)
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I remember it being a toss up between us and duke, but it just goes to show a guy who didnt even have us in his top 9 commited to us 8 months later.

As soon as i get 100 points I'm up voting and down voting ever comment on this site!!!

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January 9th, 2013 at 4:09 PM | TIL who Ben Braun is. (Score:2)
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TIL who Ben Braun is.

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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January 9th, 2013 at 4:47 PM | Son of former NBA player Larry Nance? (Score:3 Normal)
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I think Beilein's formula is fairly straightforward: trace the royal bloodlines.

“We accept reality so readily, perhaps because we sense that nothing is real.” 

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January 9th, 2013 at 5:00 PM | Old school (Score:3 Normal)
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Back of UM jerseys on the court could have been Robinson, Hardaway and Nance just to give the old codgers fodder for reminiscing.

Could Nance Jr do this?

"Everybody wants to be a hero, so to speak.  But it takes everybody."  - Charles Woodson

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January 9th, 2013 at 5:09 PM | middle-aged ex-NBAers (Score:2 Normal)
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All your 18 year old kids are belong to us. 

 

Biz hundert azoi ve tsvantsik

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January 9th, 2013 at 5:23 PM | Laramie Wyoming is a (Score:2)
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Laramie Wyoming is a wonderful place!

Are you a park ranger at Yellowstone? Say hi to Yogi Bear for me. - the_big_house 500th

I may not be a 70 year old man. - Herm

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January 9th, 2013 at 5:31 PM | Wish we had Nance.... (Score:1)
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I did a little digging and as you'd expect, Dylan's site has a bunch of info on Nance:

 

http://www.umhoops.com/recruits/larry-nance-jr/

 

His name popped up about the same time as Bielfeldt, which the OP correctly points out.  I remember at the time really wanting to get Nance for a few reasons (even though I like Max and think he'll be a solid 4-year contributor)

  • We were looking for an athletic PF and even today could use a back-up to GR3. 
  • He seemed like a guy with excellent fundamentals (NBA father) who had potential like most Beilein recruits.
  • At the time we were recruiting him Michigan was still striving for good publicity and relevance as a program under Beilein.  Being the home for NBA sons was one way we were getting some attention and Nance would have added to that.  At the time we had Hardaway, Horford, and Dumars with GR3 already committed.  Adding Nance to the list seemed like both a good fit and a way to continue that theme.  Having former NBA stars attending your games is a nice way to get the attention of the media and future recruits. 

Even now I still like the idea of signing the sons of NBA players and wish we had Nance and Glen Rice Jr. 

 

AC-1997

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January 9th, 2013 at 7:06 PM | glen rice jr is kind of a jerk tho (Score:2 Normal)
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calling his time at GT rocky would be extremely generous

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January 9th, 2013 at 5:54 PM | lol does he have a great eye (Score:0 Redundant)
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lol does he have a great eye for talent or just offer every NBA stars offspring

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