It should be
5) PSU (very close behind Iowa)
7) NW (very close behind us)
It should be
5) PSU (very close behind Iowa)
7) NW (very close behind us)
How could you conceivably have Iowa behind MSU?
Because one is 10-1 while the other is 7-4?
I'll take Iowa at 7-4 over MSU's 10-1.
Iowa didn't just beat MSU, they abused them.
So you are using one game weeks ago to make your power rankings? That makes sense. MSU beat Wiscy pretty easily, doesn't that mean they should be ahead of them?
Yes I am. They played head-to-head. Iowa kicked their ass.
In a question of 3rd vs. 4th in power rankings, I take Iowa over MSU.
If that's the case, how could you have Wisconsin ahead of MSU?
so MSU can' t be ahead of Iowa, but then Wisconsin can't be ahead of MSU, and Ohio State can't be ahead of Wisconsin. Iowa in turn, can't be ahead of either OSU and Wisconsin but can be ahead of MSU. Meanwhile, PSU can't be ahead of Iowa and Illinois. PSU can however be ahead of Michigan, but Michigan has to be ahead of Illinois but not Iowa. Can Indiana and Minn be tied for last?
POSSIBLY have OSU above anyone else? It's hate week. THEY'RE THE WORST TEAM IN EXISTENCE.
how do you have illinois behind northwestern after saturday?
If Minnesota is not last, it is not a legitimate rankings.
He literally just went straight by conference record.
How did he put Illinois over us when we beat them? If Persa would have played last weekend, Illinois wouldn't even be bowl elidgible. PSU over Iowa is a joke too. Whatever Shittenberg AKA (Kyle Edwards).....
Rittenberg is fair. He doesn't deserve vulgar nicknames.
Illinois over Michigan is possible; yes, we beat them, but it was in overtime on our own field. On a neutral field, who knows? I'm not so sure that NW would have beaten them with Persa, given that their D gave up 48 points.
PSU over Iowa is iffier, but you could argue that the two teams are trending in opposite directions.
You are right, he is usually fair. Dumb joke on my part, but I do think Persa is a huge difference maker with NW. I dont care about what Illinois did to NW's Defense because I believe Persa might of been able to swap scores with Illinois like we did. With that being said, these rankings really don't matter. What matters now is us going to Columbus and playing our best game of the year.
2. Rest of Big Ten
I say this because they manhandled both Penn State and MSU despite losing to Northwestern.
Is unfounded. Persa doesn't play defense. Illinois' O murdered NW's D. No reason to assume Illinois couldn't beat NW with Persa, too.
Illinois, Michigan, NW comparisons get tricky
UM beat Illinois by 2 in 3OT
Ill thumped NW who was playing without Persa
NW beat Iowa which neither Michigan or Illinois has done
Ill thumped PSU
PSU thumped UM
PSU beat NW
This any of this really matter to life? Its like reading the Power Rankings....ok?
But I did want to note that, no, this isn't like reading the power rankings. This is reading the power rankings.
He goes by how teams perform on a week to week basis, not their body of work as a whole. That is why those teams are above Michigan this week.
He always overreacts to the game that a team just played. Putting Penn State above Iowa makes no sense based on recent performance (both played OSU in the last 2 games, Penn State got pounded while Iowa barely lost) but he does it because PSU just won and Iowa just lost. After Purdue bean Minn and NW, he put them 5th even though they hadn't played well.
I think its more a reflection of current form of a team than anything else.
4. PSU (after they beat MSU)
6. NW (healthy Persa)
Wisc, OSU, MSU top three are fine and pretty much noncontroversial.
Iowa should be fourth. I thought Iowa was the best 3-loss team in the country, and now they're the best four-loss team in the country. It's pretty much the bizarro version of last year's team. I don't care how good PSU looks, when Iowa just did better against OSU than PSU did.
PSU, NW 6th and 7th.
I'd put Illinois over Michigan. While neither team is particularly good, Illinois has actually led ranked teams before Zooking away their win in the second half. Good 4th quarters don't win games unless the score was already fairly close. If I were only going off of head to head, I'd take Michigan on a neutral field, but there's more to the teams than head to head at this point.
Minnesota last. Stupid upset over Illinois or not, they have two wins and lost to a 1-AA team. When you lost to a 1-AA team, you need several good skulls before you can be considered a half-decent team again.
I actually emailed him about this and told him by putting teams in front of teams they lost to he's no better than Lou Holtz, who claims OSU is a better 1 loss team than Wisconsin, despite Wisconsin beating them.
Not a strongly worded letter!
Northwestern is sunk without Persa. And he's out for the year, so they should sink in anybody's polls.
No reason to call out Rittenberg. He calls it like he sees it and though you might disagree, there's nothing absurd in those rankings.
I keep hoping that at some point people will stop going into a freep frenzy every time someone writes an article that doesn't have Michigan at #1 in all categories. Looks like I need to wait a little while longer.
Yes, I respect Rittenberg a lot. It must have been a HR mistake that ESPN hired him because he actually thinks about what he says/writes. Also, of all the people in the non-local media he's probably been the most supportive of RichRod, besides maybe Cowherd (until recently). And I really can't say that if I were unbiased I'd disagree with those rankings. Or, as a biased person, that I disagree with those rankings.
he makes it very clear that his power rankings are NOT a list of what he sees as the best teams in the league numbered 1 through 11. The rankings are almost solely based on the previous week, maybe two, of games, not the entire season. With that in mind, I think it is entirely reasonable to have Mich that low since we barely deserved to be on the same field as Wisco last Sat.
Rittenberg was in the Big House to see it with his own two eyes on Saturday, not like he's relying on second-hand reports or watching it on tv. He assess us at this point pretty well, actually. Coming out flat offensively while allowing 600+ yards to be piled up on your defense is not going to win you many kudos.
It's funny how when Rittenberg writes good things about us people post threads praising him, but when we aren't happy with his unbiased assessment, we hate him.
I dislike him all the time.
Are there any sports writers you do like?
Illinois/NW/Michigan are interchangeable, imo. Call it a tie for 6th. I think Iowa should be ahead of PSU, but no real gripes otherwise.
Well we're 3-0 against Illinois, Purdue and Indiana so at least we're beating the teams we should beat. With our defense that says something. Put it all together and we're a middle of the pack team that can't quite compete just yet with the best in the conference. We had a favorable schedule against Wisconsin, MSU and Iowa getting all of them at home and we lost soundly in each contest. I don't mean to get all Ricky Bobby but if you aren't competing at the top who really cares where we're rated?