MGoCombs

September 12th, 2015 at 5:04 PM ^

And it could have changed for the worst. That was a near critical missed call that happened to end up working in Michigan's favor. So many people criticized Harbaugh for the freak out but that's a huge call and blatantly bad. Especially a game with plenty of questionable flags or lack there of, I don't blame him. It's gotta be frustrating when the refs simply don't know the rules.



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Ronnie Kaye

September 12th, 2015 at 7:24 PM ^

I honestly question how much of a priority it is to improve officiating. It doesn't affect the bottom line and some may view poor refs as good business since big blown calls create a buzz. That crew cannot do another one of our games this season. They were totally incompetent. Almost seemed like they were trying to show Harbaugh up.

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wolfman81

September 12th, 2015 at 8:56 PM ^

I think most of us agree, refs could use better preparation and training, but there is a difference between incompetence and collusion. The SEC illuminati* didn't instruct these guys to call the game against Harbaugh. No bagmen were reported at the game. * I seem to remember someone saying it was a SEC crew. I will also point out that it is easy for us to appear smart about this rule when Spielman was saying,"there is no roughing the punter outside the tackle box...and that wasn't unnecessary roughness." I know I didn't know about that beforehand.

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JamieH

September 12th, 2015 at 10:51 PM ^

but I sure as hell did.  I'm not saying that to prove how smart I am.  My point is if some armchair couch-jock like me knew the stupid rule just through watching a bunch of college football games, then why the hell didn't a Big Ten officiating crew know it?  What they hell are THEY doing with THEIR time? 

Maybe they should spend a year sitting at home watching college football on TV like me so they would actually know the rules. 

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bluesparkhitsy…

September 13th, 2015 at 2:04 AM ^

I didn't know the nuances of this rule, and you're probably right that many other fans didn't as well.  But I suspect most of us were immediately aware that the punter was in a situation where he could run the ball.  For that reason alone, it makes sense that a roughting the punter penalty was no longer appropriate.  

Also, it doesn't matter what we did or didn't know.  The refs are charged with this knowledge.  Even absent "collusion" (which I don't think anyone alleged), compentence matters.  

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JamieH

September 12th, 2015 at 10:54 PM ^

bin the Big Ten.  Just  look at the appalling lack of knowledge displayed by the replay officials  over the years for an example of that.   I think my mom knows more about football than some of the Big Ten replay officials. 

 

 

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Knight

September 12th, 2015 at 5:05 PM ^

that I'd consider getting pissed off at a bad officiating decision as an Aneurysm of Leadership considering it was directed at the refs and not the players. I'd file it under Outburst of Competitiveness.

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Knight

September 12th, 2015 at 5:51 PM ^

wasn't done by Harbaugh in a calculated act of leadership, more just being pissed at a crap call. I doubt Harbaugh did this with the DIRECT intention of firing up the team. When Beilein has uncharacteristically gone after refs it was obviously with the intention of firing up the team at a key moment. Harbaugh is just ultra competitive and let the refs have it for blowing the call. It is something he does pretty often.

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SMart WolveFan

September 12th, 2015 at 5:52 PM ^

As a comparasion between the two sports though, officiating is much more involved in basketball and coaches need to fight for the calls on a game to game basis, in football this jesture is much more a message to the team: I'll fight like a dog for you and you do the same for me.

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Nitro

September 12th, 2015 at 6:35 PM ^

"See your point."

That's funny.  He actually uses a completely different "point" for each time his previously-attempted point gets rebutted.  I noticed it was bizarre after the first time he conjured up an entirely new reason and figured it wasn't worth discussing a changing target. He's actually just here to troll.

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Knight

September 12th, 2015 at 8:37 PM ^

no troll intended, my point hasnt changed, I guess I just didn't convey it clear enough. The whole basis of this thread is just some lighthearted MGoBlog fun, nothing worth trolling over so sorry if I my posts come off that way. If you or anyone else wants to call it an aneurysm of leadership that is totally cool. Sometimes arguing a call is just arguing a call, with no intention of displaying leadership to the team or getting the players' backs. Harbaugh argues very demonstratively, not necessarliy to rile up the team, its just how intense he is.

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SMart WolveFan

September 12th, 2015 at 6:50 PM ^

I saw a team timidly trying to adopt the "edge" we all want them to have but mostly being unsuccessful for a game and a half.

Then coach showed them how it's done and four plays later we were set up inside the 10 ready to "man ball" it in

Not sure I've ever seen that obvious of a momentum shift from a bad penalty. 

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Knight

September 12th, 2015 at 6:46 PM ^

with your statement, but i don't think this situation fits with it exactly. I'm not sure I consider getting frustrated at the refs for misapplying a rule as being the essence of leadership. As much as we all love Harbaugh, people are making this moment way bigger then it really is.

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MGoBender

September 12th, 2015 at 10:59 PM ^

I looooved Harbaugh blowing up at the officials.  It was hilarious.  However, I don't file it under leadership at all.  Leaders must lead by example and if Harbaugh is going to routinely do that, then he's gonna have to adopt a "Do as I say, not as I do" mantra with his players.

And that's fine, he can do that and because he's such a badass and a great leader everywhere else, he'll be fine.  Every coach has their occassional blowups with officials, but most excellent coaches will tell you that it is not something they are proud of and may even regret.  Case in point: Beilein.  You're not going to curry favors with officials if you get a reputation for constantly bitching at them.

So, occassional blow ups: fun.  Blow ups everyday: ehh.  Harbaugh: awesome.

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LSAClassOf2000

September 12th, 2015 at 5:08 PM ^

I was loving every moment of that - I wish we knew what he was saying too. I was telling people that it really did seem like he was fulminating rage that Bo was capable of, and it actually was comforting to know that he felt rather like I did about that call too. I can't wait to see more these myself really. 

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