Andy Mignery was on WTKA this morning and had glowing remarks about Coach Hoke. He said he had 5 emails in his inbox from coaches who would put their career on hold to help Hoke.
One guy even said "I don't care, I'll sweep the floors, I just want to be a part of what Hoke is gonna do."
Put down the pitchforks and let this play out.
Also 97.1 has a source that says Denard is very happy.
We should learn from the coaching search that "sources" don't mean jack...but it is encouraging.
One guy even said "I don't
Signed
GERG (and the beaver)
Wanting something to be true does not make it true.
Signed
Me.
Not so encouraging if those 5
Not so encouraging if those 5 coaches are named Willingham, Davie, Cooper, Hermann, Shafer, etc.
Hey now... John Cooper was
Hey now... John Cooper was responsible for several great Michigan victories. Clearly he knows a thing or two.
I don't know about you, but I
I don't know about you, but I would love to have Shafer be the DC here. In retrospect, I think his job in 2008 was so marginalized that I refuse to hold that against him. Especially with how he's done at Syracuse.
I agree on Shafer
Our defense was decent in 2008 giving how many 3 and outs we had trying to run a run option without the right kind of quarterback. Now it wasnt good but Shafer has done well at Syracuse.
Go Blue!
non-news
"Andy Mignery was on WTKA this morning and had glowing remarks about Coach Hoke."
Tell me something I don't know. Mignery is aligned with Lloyd Carr et al., so his enthusiasm for the new hire is (IMO) not newsworthy.
CLARIFICATION (for the cognitively addled): This doesn't mean that Andy and Lloyd are bad guys or that Hoke won't succeed here. 'k?
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Occam's Razor
Is it possible that Lloyd is the lynch pin in a secret cabal that controls Michigan football, wants to restore the status quo above all else, and has the power to hire/fire the head coach? Or is it more likely that Lloyd, Andy Mignery, and many former players who know Hoke simply think he is a good coach and will be successful here?
While speculating about the former can be quite entertaining, the latter seems much more plausible.
"This is Michigan fergodsakes."
Are these our only two
Are these our only two choices?
Go Blue!
Ok, someone totally needs to
Ok, someone totally needs to photoshop this with Lloyd Carr and his purported cabal...
For my privacy, my new username is "non-Oriental non-Andrew"
No one
No one associated with the program currently or in the past should be allowed to have their opinions of this hire seriously.
Why?
Because the opinions of the people who have actually built this program with their own sweat, blood, and tears mean less than yours?
Give me a break.
No matter what happens.....They're still gonna run out and touch that banner.
or the fact that they won big
or the fact that they won big ten championships and a National Championships?
All in for Hoke
He is a good coach and class act. MICHIGAN FOOTBALL will be back
"Look up, get up, and don't ever give up"
What? No picture?
I expect better from you ;)
Christ in me arise and dispel all the darkness.
I see no reason Denard shouldn't be happy
He's going to be able to pass, scramble, dazzle, etc still with everyone he's grown accustomed to. Why would you want to go somewhere else when you've built up 2 year relationships with all the OL, WRs, and RBs just to do it all over again? If he goes somewhere else he'll have to do the same and get used to a new coach.
Has the whole world gone CRAZY!?!
Does Denard know how to
Does Denard know how to scramble? Seems most of his yards last season were on the read option or QB runs.
If they can teach him how to scramble effectively that just adds a whole 'nother dimension to his game.
Pronounced Ahh-Neh-Muh
Yippie, what does Scott Dreisbach think?
No disrespect in Mignery, but why do we care what a fifth string QB said? All these Lloyd guys are going to say the same thing. I mean come on, Lloyd gave his kids ice cream.
I'm definitely not interested in seeing a return to the same coaching staff responsible for The Horror, four straight losses to OSU, needing OT to scrape by Little Brother. Oh and I am not interested in the running sweeps to the short side of the field. Give me an SDSU janitor over some of those guys.
He was a QB prospect who,
He was a QB prospect who, when it looked like he might not become a starter, worked his ass of to become a starting TE instead of transferring somewhere else to make his ego feel better. Lloyd Carr won a national championship and came within one late hit of playing for another. I care a lot about what those guys think and very little about what you think.
Honestly, their opinion matters about as much as ours does.
I respect Mignery for his success and whatnot but his opinion matters very little to me. Of course Hoke's former players are going to support him just as Rodriguez's former players supported him. The most valuable opinion of a former player was Ryan Mundy, if you ask me. He played 4 years under Lloyd Carr and transferred to WVU for his 5th year under Rodriguez. And he said glowing things about Rodriguez, for what its worth (even though what's done is done).
Carr won a national championship in 1997 (almost 15 years ago). I loved it - it was my senior year. But the past is the past. Lets see what Hoke can do. Support him, sure. But treat his former players' opinions as a grain of salt.
Disgruntled former moderator. I got a lot of problems with you people!
I tend to agree
with you, but then really, none of our opinions matter and all should be taken with a grain of salt... a message board is a place to speculate and post opinions....and I posted it so people who didn't hear it could read.
In the end, we all just need to, you know, see Hoke coach before we can run him out....
No matter what happens.....They're still gonna run out and touch that banner.
Don't get me wrong . . .
Don't get me wrong, I eat up all of this info and appreciate you posting it, especially since I cannot access these kinds of interviews being an out-of-stater. I hope you didn't take my critical comments as me being unappreciative of your post.
Disgruntled former moderator. I got a lot of problems with you people!
We are
all on the same side.
Except for trolls.
No offense taken......
No matter what happens.....They're still gonna run out and touch that banner.
tactics
Guilt trip? Fail.
UMdad, I'm tempted to speculate on how your parents treated you.
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I wouldn't. My parents are
I wouldn't. My parents are saints. My point is simple. You shouldn't disparage guys who have faced adversity and worked themselves into the actual fabric of the football program. I have just as much respect for the current "RR" guys as I do the so called "Lloyd" guys. I was a student during the LLoyd days and have mentioned before some of the experiences I have had with guys like Jason Vinson and Marcus Knight and how much I respect their dedication to the program and their character as people. I have cheered from the stands and am an alumni, so in the hierarchy my opinion matters more than an MSU fan on the radio, but not more than any former or current player.
Lloyd coached "The Horror"
Lloyd lost four in a row to OSU. Oh yeah, don't forget that lovely stuff.
Stop the Lloyd lovefest. In that game where we were somehow "a late hit" away from playing for another title, he got outcoached. OSU went 4-wide and we didn't adjust. And how does Lloyd follow that up? We got outcoached in the second half of the Rose Bowl after we once again did not make adjustments. He wasn't terrible, but just an average football coach.
How
How many college football games have you played in? What about college football practices? Have you coached at that level? Hmmm...
Seems like based on your rationale ("who cares what a fifth string qb says") your opinion shouldn't matter either.
Be a fan, not an idiot.
No matter what happens.....They're still gonna run out and touch that banner.
lolz wut?
needing OT to scrape by Little Brother
yes, how dare they. the audacity to beat little brother in OVERTIME, my god, instead of losing by 30 in regulation.
Why the put down of Mignery
Just because you can't get a job on radio, don't put down someone who is successful on and off the field. Andy Mignery has been a great success story from the UM program.Thats why WTKA brought him on board. I love listening to him on the radio. He is a homer for the BLUE, who is loyal to Michigan. He fought adversity early in his career from injury and played behind Tom Brady & John Navarre. He was a starter as a TE.
You my freind, should respect opinions from winners and you might learn something.
"Those who STAY will be champions"
He may not be the glowing
He may not be the glowing choice, but look at the way all of the big Michigan stars in the NFL have already reacted. Thats what makes MIchigan great, and the fact that they want to be part of the family can only continue to help us. IMO if he is surrounded by the right assistants this was a good choice. I want a guy who wants to curb stomp OSU and make them sleep with the fishes.
Amen to that...
...positive energy is something we haven't had in 3 years.
Inbred cronyism ...
Yeah, and if they had supported the last coach, rather than bitching about him publicly, maybe he would have been more successful.
Don't give me all this blindly saluting the block M flag BS. (Rich never got it.) I agreed Rich was a lame duck and needed to go. Rich made several critical mistakes, AND he was undermined almost every step of the way. But this was a hit job, and a poorly executed one.
I really hope the old guard and David Brandon are right in this gamble. This clearly isn't a decision that is easy for the fan base to align behind, and the immediate, and possibly future success of the program is at risk.
It is the same thing everyone
It is the same thing everyone says with the recruits. I want a guy who wants to be here. He is a good coach, a good recruiter and a guy who has a strong desire to be a part of the University.
This thread should be titled "Source says Denard is very happy"
No disrespect to this other guy, but that's what I care about
If that's true, then he
If that's true, then he should have no problem bringing in a coaching staff that isn't just a rehash of his coaching staffs at BSU and SDSU, nor be limited to guys who once coached at Michigan.
To be successful, he's going to need great assistants. Hopefully he can get them.
lilpenny; that post speaks volumes;
about you, anyway.
I don't care how much you loved RR, I don't care how much you don't like the way the coaching search went (and what do you really know), I don't care how much you worship Denard. If we do to Hoke what was done to RR, what do you expect the difference to be? The man might have a suitcase here, he sure hasn't coached a single day of practice.
Yes, I have a personal benchmark. It is strongly negative, and I have no proof of my suppositions. I'll keep that one to myself.
May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift
Not an easy alignment
I think one of DB's main objectives was getting everyone aligned behind the new coach. Choosing a coach everyone could align behind is key to that. Clearly, hiring Brady Hoke is not a choice that Rich-Rod-and-a-new-DC-staff supporters, or the Jim-harbaugh-or-it-better-be-someone-totally-awesome crowd can easilly align with. It is going to take some venting.
The good news is, most of those former category are the very ones who have been trying to get everyone else to align behind the coach for the past three years: they'll most likely come around. At least some in the latter catergory may be a wait and see sell: just like when Lloyd was hired, and just like when Rich was hired.
Either way, if DB's objective was to align the stakeholders, he didn't acheive it.
Hoke is the right choice
I have coached HS football for a long time and watched and followed Mich football as well. I am a avid Mich fan that has been disappointed over the last 3 yrs. with the RR experience. When LLoyd left a 33 game winning streak of bowl games and a highly respected program intact, I was hopeful as many that we could contend on the national stage again under RR.
I know Hoke personally as a coach and have followed his career. He is a class act just as Lloyd was and is.He is a great rcruiter.
When Tressel was hired, the luckeye fans had no idea who that unknown coach was. When Chip Kelly at Oregon was hired, their fans were also skeptical. We have a coach who may have us on the BIG stage soon. But nothing good will come from being a house divided. He is our coach and lets Cheer the BLUE to victory
"Those who STAY will be champions"
Have we checked with Braylon yet?
That's what I want to know. Because, God knows, we want Braylon to be happy. Stan spoke on behalf of Braylon who was, uh, unavailable for comment, and said that Braylon wants to be from "Brady Hoke's University of Michigan."
Signed,
The janitor at SDSU
or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.