That was Dave Birkett during the liveblog over at annarbor.com today.
That was Dave Birkett during the liveblog over at annarbor.com today.
Birkett can kiss it.
but I see our program take a kid like this, who has a troubled past, is from a tough area, etc. and give him a chance to play for the Michigan Wolverines, attend the University of Michigan, and enjoy the wonderful city of Ann Arbor and I feel a lot of pride for our program.
Keep your head up Demar, welcome to Ann Arbor.
and go f*** yourelf, Birkett.
Exactly. How different would life be for all of us if we could only be what we were/did in HS? How awful would that be? I don't think Birkett holds himself to that standard so why does he do it to Dorsey?
I might get bashed at by some people for saying this but I genuinely think a lot of the backlash to RR is due to the fact that a lot of his recruits are African-Americans from Florida who are different than former U of M recruits. I'm not saying one is better than the other but I think the more cocky attitude that comes with some players from Florida (the South in general) annoys old Midwestern types. I don't have a problem with it one way or another, unless you celebrate when you're down 30 points or do the first down sign every time, but I think some (older) U of M fans do.
About a year ago, a friend of mine who is related to a person of importance tied to the Athletic department (don't ask, won't say who it is, but I will say that they are tied to the previous admin) quoted his person of importance as saying (in response to his opinion and displeasure of RichRod)
"Too many kids named Martavious on this team"
So, yes, I would say that there's a little of that going on.
Sadly too many of those guys in my section...busy bitching at 18 year olds and going on about corn rows...
Wasn't our best offensive player in Michigan history (outside of Tom Harmon) Anthony Carter from Florida? We have always gotten many players from the South. The bigger issue is the new 24/7 media blitz that replays over and over any transgression, whereas in the past, things would go down the memory hole.
It's black kids with hair.
That makes no sense, but if you look, that's what it is. And it really irks me these kids get labeled like that. Funny, since this is the same school that made so many trends with five inner-city black kids, with black socks, black shoes, baggy shorts, bald heads...
It just doesn't make any sense.
Best of luck, Demar!! Welcome to AA:)
In fairness, these people may be consistent in their narrow-mindedness. A lot of alumni disliked (or at least were uncomfortable with) the Fab Five, too.
I mean "in fairness" only in the sense that they are being logically consistent (though I disagree with their logic).
I take exception to that. In fact, I see no difference between an attitude like that and what you are claiming might be the problem. I am more than happy, proud in fact, that Michigan is willing to take a chance on a young athlete. Note: I will be happier if quarterbacks break out in a cold sweat at the thought of throwing in his direction.
Edit; as to the so-called journalist, I just have no words. It is my sincere hope that his words haunt him for the remainder of his life.
Sorry, I laughed out loud when I read it and just couldn't help myself. I'll go back to my corner now.
Edit: hmmmm, getting this to show up as a reply to the right comment (Comment #2) would be a plus. Massive fail on my part.
Couldn't have said it better.
Doesn't matter if he is joking or not. Guy shouldn't say that.
Birkett actually thinks what he said is funny. We need someone to go all Mike Gundy (I'm a MAN! I'm 40 years old!) on these newspaper guys. If they want to pick on someone to score a few cheap laughs, pick on a grown up.
This idiot really said that during a live chat. Can't listen to it till tonight, truly amazed how these so called grown up responsible people feel the need to continually bash youngsters that have made mistakes in their past. Lets start by digging into their pasts and making public their possible infidelities, minor or major crimes as juveniles, cheating on tests in college, etc... just make their lives a bit more uncomfortable and miserable like they do to our recruits! Better yet, put them on the front lines of Afghanistan or Iraq and do their reporting as the bullets whiz by their brains, that will truly make them feel like real men (and probably make them crap their pants) screw these journalists.
You can also thank Birkett for running the story about Tate's injury unauthorized by both Tate and the University.
Tate won't talk to anyone about certain things now, and the University (media dept. in particular) is pissed at Birkett.
The direct quote from one of the media relations people, "Ethics in journalism is dead."
Tough way for Mr. Forcier to learn this lesson, but probably necessary at this rate.
Whoever said that clearly hasn't met TomVH or Brian.
That's what you get when you hire a spartan to cover UofM athletics. Does anybody remember this douche bag writing for the Oakland Press? He's as big a sparty slappy as they come.
people get fired for saying/writing crap like that.
who writes for a former newspaper (online only).
Pitiful. No class. In my opinion, he is worse than a kid trying to rebuild his life.
Hey Birkett, maybe Demar should be writing articles slamming your journalistic ethics. They would obviously, somehow invoke the "No Fly Zone".
I guess this just means one more media personality to boycott.
after his press conference antics on signing day. Its amazing how many "journalists" are out to get this program. Carty seems like a distant memory...
that the press conference thing might have been an isolated incident so I gave him the benefit of the doubt, but he's officially on my personal blacklist now.
Outside of the internet I'm basically down to Sam & Ira and Angelique for any kind of decent M coverage,
I'm pretty sure Birkett was the moron last year who asked RR why he was getting emotional at the presser after the Freep hitpiece about practicegate.
But I agree, there are only a handful of MSM people worth anything today. Sad.
We have entered the "No Journalist Zone"
[cue twilight zone music]
Maybe he is auditioning for the Freep?
It looks like he's responding to a Demar Dorsey handle jack which went unpublished, but must have read something like "Comment from Demar Dorsey: I'll bring my crowbar over and we'll do some improvements, Dave."
Probably shouldn't have responded to the handlejack, and it's a little indelicate. But it's not like this joke hasn't been made a hundred times on the Ticket and the Huge Show anyway, fellers.
I had the same thought that you did; the only way that Birkett could hope to explain himself is if he were responding (stupidly) to a "Demar Dorsey" chat-name.
If that is the case, Birkett is merely run-of-the-mill stupid.
If, however, this was unprovoked in the fashion we have now hypothesized, then Birkett deserves the worst sort of abuse that the blogosphere can supply.
He must be responding to "DemDors." There's a post from him that made it through at 10:52.
10:52 [Comment From DemDorsDemDors: ]
HEY you think the bball team at umich needs more thugs? I know where to get some
Monday March 15, 2010 10:52 Dave Birkett
10:52 Michael Rothstein: I know. Dem, you play hoops?
Monday March 15, 2010 10:52 Michael Rothstein
10:52 Michael Rothstein: Ha.
Later in the chat Birkett mentions that he is not able to post the submissions of the readers. This does not appear to be an uncalled for shot at Dorsey.
I don't know if it was out of bounds or not. It was probably in poor taste to respond to any comment from any variation of Demar Dorsey's name with something that could make light of his prior legal issues. That said, I would like to see the post to which he was responding before I call for his head.
Thanks Dave. No need to bring your cunning wit.
because he isn't in possession of a wit, cunning or otherwise.
This guys an idiot. Crowbars are soooo outdated. It's all about the nunchucks these days...
"This guys an idiot. Crowbars are soooo outdated. It's all about the nunchucks and ski masks these days..." There, fixed it for you.
That's messed up.
That was an easy call.
goes epic Mike Gundy on him.
he's bigger than you. and Birkett
What could be more grown up than to attack the character of a high school student.
If you heard/read a sports "journalist" say "Hey Cunningham and Dell, see you later .... and no need to bring your ski masks", would you laugh and post it to MGoBlog.com?
I hope the answer is no. These asshats are allowed to say whatever they want because 50% of the listeners think it is hilarious and the other 50% complain. Either way = $$$ for these attention whores.
This type of reporting won't change until 100% of their listeners agree that it is unacceptable. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening... too many goons out their that lap this stuff up
I think organizing and laying engineers out is a bit different than somebody who is genuinely trying to turn things around.
edit: that said, I do agree with your primary point.
Regardless of whether someone posted something that incited this comment, as a reporter you're representing your respective media outlet and should really watch your tongue (or your fingers). Is that a joke that might be funny when you're home with friends? Sure... It is not, however, a joke that you should be telling as a reporter. An informal chat at work, with customers nonetheless, should be held to a higher standard.
i would say that i hope his paper goes out of business, but it already did...it's like night of the living dead.
What a dick.
Per Birkett's twitter:
It was me in response 2 a comment from someone posting as 'Demar' that didnt get posted. RT @oldmancoyote22: Theyre claiming it wsnt Birkett
Read the whole chat. A couple other comments got up from 'DemDors' and 'Dave's TV'. Wasn't picking on Dorsey. @oldmancoyote22
It's one thing to make a tasteless comment off the record, with your friends, in a bar or something somewhere. Whatever, that's what people do.
It's another thing entirely, out of context or not, to be a person with the ability and reach to influence others' opinions, to make that same type of comment.
edit: whatever though, I'm not going to say I wouldn't have done the same thing in the same spot, 'cause I've not been there.
Birkett's excuse was that his comment was merely in response to something else.
I suppose the radio-equivlent is the situation in which a caller gets bleeped by the seven-second delay while he is chatting on a sports talk show, with Noted Sports Writer Dave Birkett. The caller was bleeped and banned because he said, "Demar Dorsey is a crowbar-carrying thug." Then, without any delay, Noted Sports Writer Dave Birkett says on live radio for all to hear, "We just bleeped that caller because he called Demar Dorsey a crowbar-carrying thug."
Smart guy, that Birkett.
The original participant question, from a "DemDors", or a "Demar Dorsey," or whatever, gets deleted for the chat log. Becuase, uh, the moderators think (rightly) it is offensive and inflammatory.
And so what does Dave Birkett do? He jumps right in, with his crowbar in hand. In other words, rather than letting offensive-banned content go, Dave Birkett repeats it and memorializes it, for world-wide interweb consumption, under his own name. Birkett needed moderator supervision as much or more than the idiot "DemDors."
Congratulatons, Dave Birkett. You have just won the Fucking Idiot of the Day award.
Birkett-apology is, I expect, now scheduled for this afternoon, about 4:30 p.m.
I don't know much about the guy, but I'm inclined to believe it was taken out of context. That doesn't mean Birkett's a saint or anything, but I can completely see it as a response to an online poster.
Anyway, perhaps this is a good lesson for Michigan players to learn in college. I think it's important for people to learn when they can say certain things, who they should tell certain things, etc. If Michigan players learn during their time in college that the media are a pack of wild dogs, then perhaps that will help them in their future dealings with NFL media, bosses, etc. Not that this is a great situation to be in, but perhaps some life lessons can be learned.
"Real Men of Genius"..."Here's to you Mr. wannabe internet news guy,where the only thing greater than your ignorance is your arrogance"...jackass
I vote that we have Barwis go Mike Gundy on him. Or even he should bring his wolves to a presser and when Birkett shows up Barwis says, "Watch yourself or they are coming for you!"
I can't wait to hear what Birkett has to say about MSU's assault posse . . . uh, he does have something to say about them, right?
he can kiss my ass..i plan on shitting on his doorstep when demar dorsey is an all american. that is all. i feel much better. : )
Just buy him a bus ticket to EL, where the quality character of the team is on par with the quality of his reporting.
Magnus is 100% correct. Lessons need to be learned for what is said here or anywhere. Rich Rod needs to adopt a Lloyd Carr type policy with the media. No need to feed the unethical journalists. Birkett is a hack job that is trying to make a name for himself. I wouldn't be surprised if he is on the payroll from some booster from a certain State school in state or futher south.
Birkett just made a classic rookie mistake...he thought this guy was Demar Dorsey
Moreover, I know it's twitter and all, but I just don't think a professional writer should *ever* use "2" in place of any word except "two."
I can't wait for what Chait has to say about this cat.
Something tells me that when he isn't taking cheap shots at 18 year old kids he enjoys parking in handicapped spots and kicking puppies. May karma find you soon.
I'm really hoping Demar is able to step and have big contributions and F.S.U.!!!!especially because of this
video too much? Next time i'll just damn Birkett to hell instead of trying to be funny.
Can we change the title of this thread?
It bothers me that those words are on the front page of MGoBoard... even in quotation marks.
Birkett's a shitbag.
He's not worth quoting and doing so only adds fuel to the fire.
The best thing to do.... as far as Freep, Birkett, all of the other asshole "journalists" is just ignore them entirely. Attention only empowers them and validates what they do. People sitting around and talking about what they say - even when people diss them - is exactly what they want.
A "they're dead to me" mentality is a far better one than "rabble rabble rabble!!"