Is Fitz's injury a quick healing thing?
And into the season we go.... CORRECTED****
he may be back for the ND game, MAYBE
How comfortable are you with Cox gettting the nod? If you feel fine with it, then I won't pick up the Maalox. Will that change if Shaw is able to play? That would be really telling about both players if Cox gets the start ahead of Shaw IMO.
Interesting thing to remember: Cox is from Connecticut. That's got to provide a little extra motivation in this opener. Not that there isn't motivation for all these guys, but after reading what Fitz said in the Sam Webb interview about Cox, I'm more excited than concerned about the prospect of him starting.
inside info? or just predictions?
FormerWolv is a former player who's been granted access to practices, so he's probably making predictions based on inside info.
Who's Cam's backup?
Get well soon Fitz and V.Smith
I think it's Vlad
On what basis?
He has the game experience and his decision making appears to be better than DR's (as of now). I liked what I saw from the Beanie Bowl highlight video..TF made some nice throws. I think he he starts and DR gets a lot of reps too.
but they both look comfortable in there. Tate is still a better throwing QB, and there will be times when we need to throw. They will both contribute.
Forcier started all the games last year, he has the experience, if they are "equal" I would give the nod to Forcier.
Either way it shouldn't matter as they both should get significant snaps. People shouldn't get so bent out of shape over the starting QB. Can't believe the guy you responded to was negged.
Denard is still getting the vast majority of snaps with the 1's.
DG with the 2's
Tate with the 3's
and I ain't trying to argue who should start and why. I just tell it how it is.
1- Why (according to yours and other reports) is Tate getting his snaps with the 3's? I don't understand this, particularly if as you say, DG is a tentative R.S. I get Denard with the 1's, but why Tate and 3's? Does that mean DG is ahead of him like it sounds?
2- This is the first anyone has said the Smith's knee is a problem, RR said the other day he was "100%." Is this new?
I wouldn't be surprised if Tate received more snaps with the 1's and 2's once camp breaks. I personally think it's tough love.
He is 100% physically. He has to learn to "trust" it again. I explained this a couple of posts down.
This is a guy who's a former player and has inside access to practice. He's provided similar info in the past -- he's not just making educated predictions.
How bad is Fitz hurt? What's his recovery time?
it doesn't sound too bad, he should be back fairly soon
Good to hear he's merely banged up and not blown up.
I want him to blow up in a completely different way this year.
he has a neck strain. There were some links to interviews on GBW by Sam Webb and Fitz talked about getting some therapy on his neck. Only thing that sounds like to me is he has a strained/pulled/neck area. He sounded confident about getting back onto the field soon.
Thank god, only have a week more of speculative lists until the season.
How's he looking?
With his eyes. Too many eye jokes tonight?
If this is accountable info then im happy with all of the list
I'll feel bad for him if they rushed him. Maybe they'll take it slow and medical redshirt if it is bad.
From interviews with Smith himself, he appears to be comfortable with it.
I'm also curious about Toussaint's injury. Is it something serious that might keep him from being the #1 guy, or does that appear pretty well set in stone ( at least based on practice reps)?
from the GBW interview with San Webb, Fitz sounds like he has a neck strain/sprain/pull. He sounded confident about getting back onto the field fairly soon.
Everything I was hearing about Smith's knee was that it looks to be in pretty good shape? I'd hate to never see his full potential, I love the way he runs for an undersized back.
Mike Martin to the ground during one of the CTK video's, was totally awsome....
He tried to throw Martin down, I don't remember the attempt succeeding.
Fitzgerald was really the number one running back? Was really excited about him coming in, but what Does that say about the rest of the backs?
Fitz is the most complete back currently.
Maybe it's a case of the "humbles" but Fitz told Sam Webb that Cox had the most ability of all the backs.
He may have the most ability, but I think he means that Fitz is doing everything well, which sounds like a solid back to me.
If all three QBs are awesome, and Denard is the one who showed the most leadership and work ethic in the off season, and Rich intends to play two or maybe all three, why would he not reward Denard with the start in the first game against a UConn team that struggles against the spread?
Denard may not be the starter the next week, or he might. But at the very least he should be rewarded for the opener.
Everyone's been saying V. Smith's knee is 100%. What happened?
It's healed, or he wouldn't be out there, but, it takes awhile for a guy who had a major injury like that to regain trust in it. I feel it's more this than not being healed.
may take a while longer.
They may have come a long way with the allografts they use now instead of using autografts like they used to, but I'm sure it still takes a good portion of a year to get the strength and endurance back into the muscles after being non weight bearing for 6 weeks on a reconstructed knee.
For rehab puproses, think of this. For total knee replacements, they get them up the next day. For ACL replacement (that's really what they do now, take a cadaveric ligament and hunks of bone and graft them in) and they aren't supposed to use the knee for a month and a half. Much stronger ligament than when they took a piece of tendon from elsewhere, but no faster to rebuild strength.
We predominantly use autografts (own hamstring/patellar tendon). Allografts (cadaver tissue) are only used in certain situations where using your own tissue is contraindicated. ACL's are weightbearing usually right away, but you are correct the strengthening is delayed a while. Asssuming his rehab/post-op course went ok, his knee should be full go at this time. He may get some soreness from time to time but his confidence with his knee will be something that comes with time.
allografts than autografts. And I see them in all ranges of ages and weights of people. But I'm not the one doing them. I just sit at the head of the bed.
Tate should start. He did a hell of a job last year when we all thought was lost. Would love to see Denard come in and light it up.
It doesn't matter what anyone did last year. We went 5-7, forget about who did what last year. As of know, from what we have heard from the players, coaches, insiders, analysts etc. is that Denard has been working his ass off and he is more comfortable with the offense and Tate didn't work as hard as he should have in the offseason. We know what Tate is capable of, but if he's not the guy to lead us out there it's because the coaches think we have a better chance to win with Denard. And I'm completely ok with that. We shouldn't forget about Tate but I'm sick of people saying _________ should start because of what they did last year. We need to win now, nobody's job is safe.
Sorry. Rant over.
How about the O-line and Will Campbell? How's the D look as a unit?
Oline is strong.
Will Campbell is behind Martin, a guy who's posed for a BG type year.
As a #2? I'm shocked they're not getting both of them on the field. Will looks fit, from what I've seen and heard.
Thanks for the info, junkies need a fix.
Think he meant Martin is posed for a BG-like break out season.
Yeah, I hear that part. I've been hoping Campbell would have taken the next step and been too good to keep off the field.
Just too bad there was no depth last year and we couldn't redshirt him to create a little separation between he and Martin.
From the looks of it, he's getting in shape. Just needs to get that eye of the tiger on every snap and play lower. He has the physical tools, just needs to learn how to use them.
It doesn't really bother me that he didn't redshirt. On DL, you're rotating guys in and out all the time. They'll both see plenty of PT.
I love Tate as much as the next guy but do all of you understand that if DR can run the spread the way RR wants it run he will start. Tate had a hard time reading the option last year. Yes he is a better passer(more refined) but that amounts to about 35% worth of relevance in this offense. I will take a guy who is fast and decisive with the option read. I am guessing that is DR.
Look at the bright side. If DR hasn't gotten better we always have Tate! And if that doesn't work, we have a 5-star behind him. Things at the QB position feel so much better than two falls ago. I think we can all agree on that.
EDIT: Rant directed at those thinking Tate should start.
It's interesting that the most established player (Martin) is the "one to watch." Is that b/c he should have the greatest impact? Explain, please.
Check formerwolv last post he thinks he could have a BG type of year. That IMO is something to watch.
I'm willing to bet if Martin is having a good game, UCONN's main offensive strategy isn't doing much. Thus, putting us in a great position to win.
O-line? They are going to be fine. I really think we are getting looked over this year. Ok. Denard will start, but is that a slap in the face to Tate? Who played the last half of the season injured?
I don't think is a slap in the face, maybe a kick in the ass to get him going.
It's not a slap in the face if Denard is the better player at this point. The slap in the face came when Tate didn't work as hard as he should have this offseason and the veteran players took notice.
This is DI ball. Tate knows as much as the next guy if you give the #2 and inch he will take a mile if he gets a chance. It sounds as though Tate gave DR an inch.
I wish your posts had a special tag, I almost missed this gem.
We are all impressed with DG and DR'S CTK vids but com on Tate should at least be the starter. He took us to 4-0 before he got hurt .
The thing is, you can't reward Tate's off season behavior, and DR is the best runner, and this offense purrs when you have a guy who is more of a running threat.
We'll see plenty of Tate this year, I guarantee it, but he shouldn't get the first snaps on Sept. 4th.
Yes. We all know he led us to a 4-0 start. The coaches know that as well. Which is encouraging because despite knowing that, they think Denard is the man for the job right now. Which means that they think Denard is better at this point.
... your posts have the strange consistency and density of a troll or a high school student. No sugercoat.
How many times do you have to bring up Tate should be the starter in the same thread?
Most high schools are already starting
If you need a smack in the ass to get motivated to be the starting quarterback for the University Of Michigan, then get the he'll out the way. Come on guys Bo would have that for sure,
So now you're arguing against Tate?
for #4. I have been having a gut feeling that we were gonna blow his redshirt for garbage time reps, I still think Will Campbell should have redshirted last year.
But after reading his interview with Sam Webb, I have a hard time believing Fitz is already ruled out for the UCONN game:
Sam Webb: Health wise, he says they expect you back (this week). How are you feeling?
Fitzgerald Toussaint: “I’m feeling good. I’ve been getting treatments and they have been taking good care of me and they doing an excellent job. That’s working out real well.”
He sounds really optimistic. Can you explain? Thanks again.
I'm repeating what I know, but, Fitz hasn't been practicing and would you risk him rushing back for the 1st game of the season? His injury isn't one I would rush back, but that's just me. I hope he returns soon, but not risk it for just one game.
It may change, but as of today, Cox is startin'
Assuming he's qualified, why not Shaw over Cox? Shaw seemed to get the most reps last season outside of Minor and Brown...
Shaw seems like very much a speed back. He lacks the ability to create positive yardage on every play. He's much like Carlos Brown in this way. It's hard to have that as your #1 back.
Also, I think he has trouble with catching the football. That's something Carlos excelled at.
Cox hammers his way right up the middle!
Cox shoots through the seam!
Cox pounds it hard up through the hole.
Cue the other jokes
Because Cox is better?
Formerwolv - I have a question. You seem to be very knowledgeable, so I hope you won't mind the frankness of it.
Is this team - with all its bumps and bruises this spring - noticeably improved over last year?
What are your REALISTIC expectations.
Ok, will play devils advocate. Do you think Denard will lead us to 4-0 with his accuracy from last year? I know last year was last year, but he has no big game experience. I really want him to be great but this year?
Just stop. It's not funny.
But like you said, last year is last year. Tate had an amazing start to last year, but he/we struggled against Indiana, and we got lucky/help in the ND game. The season could have easily been 2-2 with Tate at the helm. Who knows what would have happened with DR under center.
That being said, I'll reiterate the mantra that everyone else has been saying: the starting QB will be the one whom RR and his coaching staff believe will give us the best chance to win, whether it be for all games or particular games. I personally believe that both QB's have the potential to lead us to a 4-0 record to start, but I can also see the downside of a 2-2 record with both QB's.
As it's been said for many-a-year: that's why they play the game. Nobody knows what may happen, but I do know this: only 6 more days and a wake up until kickoff. Now excuse me while I go sacrifice more undulates and burn more incense.
P.S. - Not trying to be a dick, just tired, anxious (like everyone) and a bit tipsy.
Just as long as we win, have bet all my LSU friends a case that we beat uconn. Hate the hat!
please learn how to use the reply button
is our secondary going to be able to give teams like OSU, Wisc and Iowa a difficult time passing and who is our starting QB going to be come first snap?
Based on the info we have, I doubt our secondary will give those teams that much trouble.
FormerWolv, I've been waiting to hear about how the QBs are looking with the read option. Any insight?
Last year Tate frustratingly read it incorrectly time and time again and Denard didn't have the option, he just ran. I think this will be the big key to the season.
I think they made Tate hand off everytime, and Denard run every time.
The coaches probably called it at the line when they all look over to the sideline.
Do we know what exactly Fitz's injury is?
1. We are now playing a base 3-3-5 defense. there is only 1 nosetackle on the field at a time. This means Martin and Campbell will only see the field together in other packages (short yardage and other formations. I think Coach will give the couple redshirt seniors as much PT in the rotation as Big Will.
2. Tate has had some "off the field issues" this summer that have landed him the 3rd string position. I think he will play, but only to be a change of pace to Denard. If Denard is lightig it up, you might no see a ton of Tate I still agree that all 3 of our options are light years ahead of the Threet/Sheridan experiment.
Can't wait to go to the Big House!!! GO BLUE!
What's the general feeling on James Rogers?
Also, what about the other freshmen defensive players like Carvin Johnson and Jibreel Black. How are they coming along? Thanks.
My key player to watch vs. UConn: JT Floyd/James Rogers
no no no
It's all about, the Team, the Team, the Team!!!
Michigan will dominate. Michigan will take no prisoners. The Big Ten will be put on notice.
Wow y'all are rough, been following this blog since basically it's inception. Just thought I would share some of my feelings recently.
When you say something that you think people may not agree with, it's always best to check spelling etc. Don't get discouraged.
I wouldn't normally tell people to comment or not comment based on mgopoints and I appreciate everyones opinion but maybe at some point you should get the message other users are sending and stop so that you can live to post another day.
Who will have a breakout year that will surprise everybody?
I spoke with a buddy of mine who's a huge UConn fan and he said that they have QB issues. He's not real confident in the QB but said the rest of the team is solid, but not great. He reminded me to consider the competition in the Big East.
He said he'd be surprised if Michigan lost to UConn. And he's pretty a pretty die-hard college football guy, he's familiar w/ UM's holes/uncertainties.
Anyone happen to know the other huge UCONN fan? I'd like to get their collective take on the situation.
I've been watching for UConn to have a breakout year for about 3-4 years now. They have had teams more stacked than this one and still not done anything with it. I'm not saying that will necessarily happen this year, but I would be surprised if they are even in contention for the Big East title going into the last week or two of the season.
I honestly think our offense will roll right through them and our defense will probably bend and not break in this game.
I just think that our talent level compared to theirs should be enough to carry us next Saturday. Plus having two quarterbacks that have gametime experience.
this thread is mostly one, seemingly well informed reader/blogger sharing with us.
is there a blackout, where Brian and whoever is in charge of the editorial product of this blog, have agreed not to publish any info that could help our opponents? Because I would have thought that the last week before the season starts would be huge with new stuff.
Is this going to continue during the season?
I usually don't post just to say thanks, but I truly appreciate actual informaiton from someone "in the know." Please keep it up, as you think appropriate and responsible.
FormerWolv - other reports that I've read about the Beanie Bowl claimed that Denard & Tate shared most of the snaps & Devin got just a few. I'm just wondering if the reports are wrong because it doesn't really go along with your claim that the order is Denard, Devin & Tate. Thanks.
I think it's the staff transitioning from trying to get Devin up to speed to prepping for game week. I think everyone would like to be able to redshirt Devin and create some space between him, Denard and Tate.
That said, I'd be shocked if Devin didn't travel to every game.
Tate is 2nd string, but has been practicing with the 3s, that was during camp. Now that camp is broken, we should see dg's snaps go down bc of his RS and giving them to Tate and denard.
More than likely its RR's attempt to give the inexperienced as many snaps as possible. Since Tate has some experience behind his belt, I am not surprised to see Rod put him with the 2nd and 3rd teams for polishing his skills.
Formerwolv, what's going on at the safety positions? I've been hearing good things about Carvin and MRob.
For some reason I kept reading the original post over and over and over. The insider info was intoxicating. Good lord I can't wait for Saturday.
Are Floyd/ Rogers also on a short leash, or have they distanced themselves from the freshmen?
see OP for corrections
What's the reasoning for Smith over Cox?
I don't know the exact reasoning but that is what I was told last night. It's more on the lines of Smith being a little more willing to block, than Cox. Both will play though.