Alternative Method for Overturning Camp Ban - 2/3 Majority

Submitted by EastCoast Esq. on

So it turns out the NCAA membership CAN overturn the ban even with the SEC throwing a hissy-fit.

Because the ban did not get an 85% majority, the NCAA's membership has the option to rescind the rule if 2/3 agree. Harbaugh and Manuel may be working behind the scenes to make that happen.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/recruiting/story/_/id/15231004/road-map-exists-jim-harbaugh-co-overturn-satellite-camp-ban

h/t Tom VH

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lilpenny1316

April 19th, 2016 at 10:38 AM ^

So I take his words with a little more weight.  I think he knows that this could be overturned in the courts, but doesn't want to suggest that nuclear option until the NCAA weighs in.

I'm also happy that Harbaugh has other people taking up the cause.  The NCAA is pretty spineless, but I'm sure they'd like to stick it to Harbaugh based on the things he said last week.  They're probably salivating for him to commit a second-tier violation right now.

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1VaBlue1

April 19th, 2016 at 10:45 AM ^

To add fuel to the anti-ban campaign, Rich Rod said this in a presser yesterday:

"I don’t know how that rule passed so quickly," Rodriguez told the reporters. "I understand if we table it and look at it for a year, but to table it because a few SEC or ACC schools don’t want to have it is not fair to a lot of coaches, a lot of programs and more importantly to the student athletes.    ...

A few squeaky wheels got the thing changed that quickly? I think it’s silly and disingenuous."

But his AD (Greg Byrne) said the ban passed "because it was getting taken to another level" - an obvious shot.  Whatever, just fight with us to get it overturned and you can be forgiven your half-hearted attempt at a slight...

Here is the link if anyone cares...

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willywill9

April 19th, 2016 at 10:55 AM ^

If this attempt fails, the Pac12, Big Ten, Big 12, and any other conferences that want in should just ignore the rule and see what the ncaa does. If they try to bring a hammer down then the conferences should start their own athletic association. I'm not mad at the SEC or ACC, they're playing their best cards, but no one else should be helping them.

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1VaBlue1

April 19th, 2016 at 10:56 AM ^

I never really paid attention to Mike Leach, other than notice that his Texas Tech teams scored a lot of points.  But now?  This guy is my second favorite coach that's still alive!!  What a tirade!!!  That was awesome - he doesn't pull any punches and doesn't seem to care one iota about who he pisses off!  I like entertainment...

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WolverineHistorian

April 19th, 2016 at 11:00 AM ^

I guess the SEC's next move is to figure out a way to allow camps UNLESS your name is Harbaugh, because that's what it all comes down to. And when this rule gets changed, it will be Harbaugh receiving all of the SEC's wrath and they'll completely ignore the extremely long list of other coaches who were against the ban in the first place. Mike Leach has publicly and endlessly called them out on their BS since day one and I have yet to hear of any negative feedback against him. Funny how that works out.

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mfan_in_ohio

April 19th, 2016 at 11:37 AM ^

AHarbaugh would have to get the support of 86 out of 128 programs for this to go through. The SEC and ACC seem to be uniformly opposed to overturning the ruling, and some of the Sun Belt, at least, would be as well, so its more like 86 out of 90 to 95 schools.  Add in a few scattered schools like UCLA, and he would have to get everyone else.  I would bet that there are enough Hugh Freezes out there to stop this.

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MaizeAndBlueWahoo

April 19th, 2016 at 12:11 PM ^

Not so sure about the ACC.  There really haven't been too many publicly available ACC opinions on the subject.  The politics of the conference are such that FSU and Clemson tend to dictate its football direction.  They will happily vote and act like SEC schools and they probably directed the conference to vote the way it did.  Probably Miami, too.  The rest of the conference would be up in the air.  The anti-ban effort can almost definitely siphon off some ACC votes.

I agree it's an uphill battle, but it's highly doable.

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brad

April 19th, 2016 at 2:01 PM ^

Even in the SEC, there is no reason at all for Arkansas, Kentucky, Missouri, Tennessee or Vanderbilt to individually vote for that ban. Outlying schools already in the SEC or ACC have more reason to vote for the camps than the Sun Belt teams do, since they can't really be punished by the SEC. Those five programs have already been screwed by the SEC's ban, so this could be their chance to switch it off and make things easier on themselves.



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BIGBLUEWORLD

April 19th, 2016 at 12:07 PM ^

If a high school student can discover career, athletic or educational opportunities outside of their local region, there is absolutely no reason anyone should limit or suppress that opportunity.

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BIGBLUEWORLD

April 19th, 2016 at 12:21 PM ^

The SEC is acting like they own the young athletes in the south. The bag men think these kids are for sale. Their whole attitude stinks.

America is founded on principles of freedom and opportunity.

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1VaBlue1

April 19th, 2016 at 12:16 PM ^

Bert Beilema was on Fienbaum's show - shocker!!  He said:

"We were going to jump in with both feet,” Bielema said. “We were sitting ready to roll. We play by the rules as they are ... It’s an opportunity to get on the soap box for a couple people who feel good about doing it."

No further explanation was quoted, and I suspect there was none.  How could there be, really?

Angie's story also had some good quotes from Old Dominion's coach, who is very much in favor of camps.  He is working on an appeal with the director of the NCAA Coaches Association (Todd Berry).

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lilpenny1316

April 19th, 2016 at 1:38 PM ^

Unless that was just on NCAA Football 14.  But he brought up a good point about having 15 days in June and July where they cannot work.

“You can only do 15 days in June and 15 days in July of camps,” he told the paper. “That’s four weeks we can be on vacation in the summer. Not to mention the 30 days we can’t recruit around Christmas.

“I am so tired of coaches complaining about quality of life when 95 percent of Americans will never touch the money or vacation time we get. Shame on us.”

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Darth Saedd

April 19th, 2016 at 1:53 PM ^

You are correct ODU is now a FBS school and a member of Conference USA.  Also keeping with coaches of SE VA universities, the head coach(who's name escapes me at the moment) of Norfolk State, which is a FCS school, was on local sports radio yesterday also very much in support of the camps and wants to see the ban overturned.  Of course he gave all the usual pro's on the subject.

On a personal side note I am still hopeful that the Michigan-ODU camp will get the approval to be held as I was gonna fanboy it up and stalk the area in hopes of getting some pictures!

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