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All of UM's "good non-conference opponents" go down in first round
March 22nd, 2013 at 5:41 PM
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All of UM's "good non-conference opponents" go down in first round
So, after going through my bracket, it has become evident that I unknowingly advanced all of michigan's "tougher" non conference wins (Pitt, NC State, Kansas State).
After the results thus far, obviously all three of those teams have lost:
K state goes down to Lasalle in a close one (after Lasalle had already played a game)
Pitt goes down to Witchita State in a non close game
NC State goes down to a good Temple team.
So, what does this tell us about our wins and how good we really were non conference? I understand that it is March and it could just be coincidence, however, I thought it was odd that all 3 of them lost.
The one that really sticks out is K State. What do you guys think?
March 22nd, 2013 at 5:44 PM | 
I did the same
I did the same
March 23rd, 2013 at 12:22 AM |
Looking at history I had to
Looking at history I had to
Looking at history I had to limit myself from choosing Pitt to go THAT far, but I did have them winning this round and against Gonzaga. Can't count on that team for anything. ****.
March 22nd, 2013 at 5:45 PM |
I was just thinking about this
I was just thinking about this
I hope it is not any sort of indicator on our ability
March 22nd, 2013 at 6:44 PM |
how would beating 3 teams who
how would beating 3 teams who
how would beating 3 teams who went on to lose in the tournament indicate anything about our ability?
March 22nd, 2013 at 6:59 PM |
Well, I think what he is
Well, I think what he is
Well, I think what he is saying is that a number of the "good" teams we beat haven't turned out to be as good as people thought. One way to measure the quality of a team is by the quality of the teams they beat. If some of the best teams you beat turn out to be less good, you could deduce that your team is less good as well.
It's not necessarily rock solid, but not that far fetched either.
March 22nd, 2013 at 7:40 PM |
It's not so much what it says
It's not so much what it says
It's not so much what it says as what it unsays. It unsays, "we are good because we beat those teams."
March 22nd, 2013 at 5:45 PM |
Our "good conference
Our "good conference
Our "good conference opponents" are doing pretty well for themselves so far.
Except for Wisconsin. Fuck them.
March 22nd, 2013 at 5:58 PM |
In Wisconsin's defense....
In Wisconsin's defense....
Seeding Ole Miss as a 12 was a questioable move by the committee, seeing as they won the SEC conference tourney.
But yeah..... fuck Wisconsin.
All right Lemmings. Bring the heat.
March 22nd, 2013 at 7:29 PM |
In Wisconsin's defense...
In Wisconsin's defense...
they shot 25% from the field, so it's actually a miracle they were still in that thing....
March 22nd, 2013 at 6:26 PM |
And Illinois.
And Illinois.
And Illinois.
March 22nd, 2013 at 5:45 PM |
Sorry for lack of paragraphs
Sorry for lack of paragraphs
Sorry for lack of paragraphs as well - first thread creation experience
UM alum 2005 Columbus, OH Native (I know.)
March 22nd, 2013 at 5:46 PM |
So did Wisconsin. OMG PENN
So did Wisconsin. OMG PENN
So did Wisconsin. OMG PENN STATE DIDN'T EVEN MAKE THE TOURNEY!
It means "good" is both relative and variable.
Denard has spent the offseason working really hard and smiling at people.
March 22nd, 2013 at 5:51 PM |
Well in all fairness the NCAA
Well in all fairness the NCAA
Well in all fairness the NCAA selection committee thought our out of conference opponents were pretty good as evidenced by their seeding.
My bracket is still alive though. I've got Michigan, MSU, Indiana and OSU in the final four. Obviously I went "all in" on the B1G.......lol.
March 22nd, 2013 at 5:56 PM |
I did the same thing.
I did the same thing.
I did the same thing. Although that puts me in the uncomfortable position of not rooting against OSU and MSU with every ounce of my being.
March 22nd, 2013 at 6:27 PM |
I have that same Final Four
I have that same Final Four
I have that same Final Four as well, but I always root for those guys in the tourney. It surprises me how many M fans root against other Big Ten teams.
March 22nd, 2013 at 6:33 PM |
I like B1G teams to do well.
I like B1G teams to do well.
I like B1G teams to do well. But can't root for wis, msu, ohio nor Indy. Pulling hard for our "arch-rival" Illinois though.
If you spell Crisler like the car company you should hand in your fan card before the next meeting.... Same goes for Ferry Field
March 22nd, 2013 at 6:43 PM |
So you like Big Ten teams to
So you like Big Ten teams to
So you like Big Ten teams to do well, except for the ones that actually do? Come on.
So you really don't want the Big Ten to do well. Which is fine, but don't say you do.
March 22nd, 2013 at 8:17 PM |
I conceptually want the Big
I conceptually want the Big
I conceptually want the Big Ten to do well particularly since I live in the middle of SECSECSEC country. But I just can't stand OSU and MSU.
March 22nd, 2013 at 6:42 PM |
I have the same final four
I have the same final four
I have the same final four with OSU and Michigan in the championship game.
As for Michigan non conference opponents going down in the first round... so.
It was fairly evident through the season there was very little seperating the top of the food chain from the bottom. Seeding been done, if Michigans wins everything or loses on Saturday our schedule is meaningless.
March 22nd, 2013 at 5:51 PM |
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Random gonna random.
"I tried to but a pencil in the light socket but it was too wide and didn't fit so I used a paperclip."-Terrelle Pryor, Future Rhodes Scholar
March 22nd, 2013 at 5:54 PM |
To be honest it probably
To be honest it probably
To be honest it probably doesn't mean shit, however, what type of Michigan fan would I be without employing a little deductive reasoning and over analysis on a day that we don't play.
UM alum 2005 Columbus, OH Native (I know.)
March 22nd, 2013 at 6:04 PM |
Noooooo
Noooooo
Are you saying we are overrated and need to be reseeded?
March 22nd, 2013 at 6:09 PM |
It's a single-elimination
It's a single-elimination
It's a single-elimination tournament. You can't draw a whole lot of conclusions.
March 22nd, 2013 at 6:32 PM |
This wake of this troll
This wake of this troll
This wake of this troll smells a little Sparty-esque
"the Spirit of Michigan...is based on a deathless loyalty to Michigan and all her ways....and a conviction that nowhere is there a better university, in any way, than this Michigan of ours" - Fielding Yost
March 22nd, 2013 at 6:35 PM |
Non-Conference foes
Non-Conference foes
It does seem a bit strange that all three lost in the first round. But thankfully at this point in time the only teams wins that matter are Michigan's and the won in the first round. Hopefully when its all said and done Pitt, K.State and NC State can take solace in the fact that they all lost to the eventually National Champs during the regulard season.
March 22nd, 2013 at 6:45 PM |
Is this what you want to hear?
Is this what you want to hear?
When we played Pitt, they seemed like they had potential to be good, but were underperforming. They played like that in the tourney.
When we played Kansas State, they looked awful. From that 1-game sample it was shocking to see them do well during the season. But hey look, they played awful in the tourney.
When we played NC State, they too showed flashes of why they were ranked so highly at the beginning of the season. In our game, they nearly came back. And guess what they did in the tourney: fell behind early and almost came back. Still a loss!
Is that good?
I do it for my love of the Streets
March 22nd, 2013 at 6:58 PM |
I picked them all to win the
I picked them all to win the
I picked them all to win the first round too, I believed the Ken Pom/RPI hype, I don't know why, I didn't think any of them were that great when we played them. Wisconsin losing was a big shock to me, as fun as Marshall Henderson is he's not that good and Ole Miss, suprising SEC tourney aside, is also pretty bad. I had Wisconsin going to the elite 8, woops!
March 22nd, 2013 at 7:08 PM |
This post is stupid. What
This post is stupid. What
This post is stupid. What about our wins in the conference to teams that advanced?
March 22nd, 2013 at 7:19 PM |
Well, when this post was
Well, when this post was
Well, when this post was made, that list included MSU and no one else. Now it includes MSU and Illinois.
The point is, every tournament team we played this season was favored to win their first round match up, however 4 of them did not. And it doesn't say a lot about us that MSU beat Valpo.
March 22nd, 2013 at 11:12 PM |
Pretty sure
Pretty sure
Pretty sure we beat Ohio
March 22nd, 2013 at 11:15 PM |
They hadn't played yet
They hadn't played yet
They hadn't played yet either.
March 22nd, 2013 at 7:12 PM |
Two 8 seeds going down to 9
Two 8 seeds going down to 9
Two 8 seeds going down to 9 seeds is not exactly amazing to be honest. Most of the time the 8 seeds are slightly favored, if at all. Kansas State's loss was surprising, but not unprecedented. If you thought these 3 teams were powerhouses and Final 4 material, then yeah, you should be surprised and disappointed, but they're still quality opponents. None of these squads were top 10 teams and that was pretty clear before the tourney
March 22nd, 2013 at 7:19 PM |
At this point I don't think
At this point I don't think
At this point I don't think it really matters. I am more concerned with Michigan finding a way to advance to the Sweet Sixteen for the first time in forever. Survive and advance.
"But in the tire fire that was last year's secondary he showed a little spark." - Brian Cook
March 22nd, 2013 at 7:55 PM |
I have a nice little weekend
I have a nice little weekend
I have a nice little weekend planned. The wife and I are going to Adventures in Homebrewing. Then I am bottling my beer. Then I will probably head over to the joe. I don't know if I will have enough time.
March 22nd, 2013 at 8:01 PM |
Who cares
Who cares
Who cares. I didn't think they were good when we beat them.
Tjabz
March 22nd, 2013 at 8:34 PM |
I did the same thing to an
I did the same thing to an
I did the same thing to an extent, but at the same time the NCAA tournament is a single-game data point versus a season of games. KSU is better than La Salle, just not today. Pitt and Wichita St. are close, and that played out how we thought. NC State lost to a good team in Temple; they were a mediocre ACC team with a ton of talent. UM is still pretty good, and I think with different match-ups each of these squads could have made a run.
March 22nd, 2013 at 8:35 PM |
This obviously means we will
This obviously means we will
This obviously means we will lose in the first round. Fuck.
I poop excellence
March 22nd, 2013 at 11:11 PM |
It doesn't mean that much
It doesn't mean that much
It doesn't mean that much. It happens. If those games were all played again they'd likely have different results, except maybe NC State.
Don't put too much stock into it just because it's the tournament. FGCU didn't prove they're a top 10 team because they beat up on Georgetown.
March 23rd, 2013 at 1:00 AM |
perfecto
perfecto
i say we all root for the only guy with the perfect bracket who has the maize and blue winning it all.
this text is abnormally tiny and will stay that way.
March 23rd, 2013 at 1:29 AM |
I wouldnt try to take too much from it
I wouldnt try to take too much from it
Teams lose in the NCAA tournament and two of those games were 8-9 games.
I had pitt over gonzaga and K State in the final four
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