All-Time Win% Update & Scenarios
I reside in the South Bend area, so I am constantly reduced to having the "all-time" arguments with Notre Dame fans (Wins, Win%, All-Americans, Heismans, Titles, etc). Rest assured that we will retain the #1 all-time win percentage spot despite any combination of outcomes in the Outback Bowl and BCS Championship Game. However, if the worst case scenario occurs UM will only have a 1 game lead going into next season (UM Loss / ND win).
Michigan (Win) / ND (Win)
- UM - 73.52%
- ND - 73.43%
Michigan (Win) / ND (Loss)
- UM - 73.52%
- ND - 73.34%
Michigan (Loss) / ND (Loss)
- UM - 73.44%
- ND - 73.34%
Michigan (Loss) / ND (Win)
- UM - 73.44% (!!!)
- ND - 73.43% (!!!)
*Records before bowl games
UM - 903-314-36 [1253 games]
ND - 865-300-42 [1207 games]
**Calculations for All-Time Win Percentage
= (Wins+(.5*Ties)) / Games Played
December 31st, 2012 at 10:31 PM ^
December 31st, 2012 at 10:46 PM ^
The reason ND refuses to join a conference is that they don't want "the grind." Although their schedule did look really tough on paper this year, they usually cherry-pick a schedule that guarantees a reasonably-competent team at least a 9-3 record, and a top ten-caliber team a 12-0 or 11-1 record.
Hopefully, the advent of super-conferences forces ND to join one, and have to go through the same grind that everyone else does.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:01 PM ^
January 1st, 2013 at 9:09 AM ^
I hope now they will stop with the "will play anyone" meme. Because you won't, ND. You broke a contract to get out of playing a team that had beat you 3 years in a row at that point.
January 1st, 2013 at 3:22 AM ^
Yah because your schedule is so tough. Run out of directional Michigan schools so you had to go back to the AppSts and UMass's? The BIG is awful from top to bottom. Next year, for example, you have Central Michigan, Akron & Connecticut. Add in Indiana, Minnesota & Iowa. 6 wins (should be). Then you start getting harder. PSU in year 2 of sanctions. STAEE & Northwestern. Then 2 meatier games in Nebraska (skinny on the meat) and tOSU.
Try not to sound like the ESS EEE SEE.
January 1st, 2013 at 3:26 AM ^
Thanks.
January 1st, 2013 at 11:06 AM ^
I'm Canadian.
January 1st, 2013 at 10:53 AM ^
January 1st, 2013 at 11:08 AM ^
I am still not sure why that happened, I seriously doubt it was because we lost 3 in a row, not like they were routs by any stretch. ND is hardly afraid of UM. Hoke looks good for the future? Maybe sometime after next year.
January 1st, 2013 at 11:43 AM ^
January 1st, 2013 at 2:37 PM ^
January 1st, 2013 at 7:42 PM ^
You really think that ND would be locked out of a playoff? Why do you think ND aligned with the ACC? If the ACC fails the BIG12 is just as accomodating.
December 31st, 2012 at 10:53 PM ^
December 31st, 2012 at 11:31 PM ^
December 31st, 2012 at 11:04 PM ^
December 31st, 2012 at 11:30 PM ^
next time somebody asks us to teach them football, just say 'NO'!
December 31st, 2012 at 11:46 PM ^
We're 23-16-1 all-time against them. The problem isn't that we agreed to teach them how to play football, but that we haven't played them enough to open up a larger gap in the win percentage standings.
January 1st, 2013 at 12:26 AM ^
So when ND goes 6-6 next year, how big of a gap will that open for UM?
January 1st, 2013 at 1:17 AM ^
8 games.
January 1st, 2013 at 3:16 AM ^
Don't care if we go 6-6, as long as we beat you.
January 1st, 2013 at 7:08 AM ^
You probably won't.
January 1st, 2013 at 11:11 AM ^
Oh, I think we will. By a lot.
January 1st, 2013 at 4:32 AM ^
If you ever need BlueDragon to come in to town and crack some heads I am willing to roll up into town and do your bidding for awhile. Stay tough blue. If we can survive Rodriguez era Michigan we can survive anything.
January 1st, 2013 at 4:58 AM ^
January 1st, 2013 at 10:15 AM ^
At all the guys on the internet who are 6'5, 250. And hit the wieghts.
You forgot to tell us whether you like long walks on the beach.
January 1st, 2013 at 11:47 AM ^
January 1st, 2013 at 7:22 AM ^
Glad to not have to deal with Notre Dame fans every goddamn day.
This guy.
January 1st, 2013 at 8:43 AM ^
This post intrigued me, so I went through the entire history of season records as well and found some interesting items in the statistics as well, especially when I started breaking it up by decade. We've only consistently won more games than ND on a per-decade basis since the 1970s, but the overall winning percentage for ND falls significant from about 1970 onwards.
Win percentage for ND from 1890-1969: 0.755
Win percentage for Michigan from 1890-1969: 0.715
So, very close in that period - we played 14 more games in that space and ND won 18 more overall.
Win percentage for ND for the period 1970-2010: 0.632
Win percentage for Michigan for the period 1970-2010: 0.715
For wins, we have 41 more in that period while only playing 2 fewer games than Notre Dame.
January 1st, 2013 at 9:18 AM ^
someday i want to know where you get all that info, so readily at hand. between that and your post about the rushing game after Christmas, i had to go back to stats 401, when i was taking tests for my teammates to remember some of that.
happy new year to all.
January 1st, 2013 at 9:53 AM ^
and the addition of the ACC, chery-picked I'm sure, ND should take over the win pct. lead here shortly.
Once they do, ESPN and NBC and any media outlet will start to say it's the greatest statistical accomplishment in college sports history. It's funny how some stats only mean something when certain teams or programs have the lead in them.
January 1st, 2013 at 10:09 AM ^
January 1st, 2013 at 11:40 AM ^
January 1st, 2013 at 11:41 AM ^
January 1st, 2013 at 4:20 PM ^
Bentley shows Michigan with a record of 891-314-36 through 2010. Add 11-2 and 8-4 for 2011 and 2012 for a total of 910-320-36. It should also be noted that Bentley has not adjusted for the OSU and PSU forfeitures.
Why is your number different than Bentley's?
Did you take into account the losses that fall off our record because of the forfeits?
January 1st, 2013 at 5:55 PM ^
January 2nd, 2013 at 1:47 PM ^
I can't imagine why some idiot marked your reply as trolling.