All Time Record vs MSU [Once again SFW]
According to the Detroit News it's 35-25-2. What a complete joke. How are they allowed to publish blatant falsehoods?
http://detnews.com/article/20111003/SPORTS0203/110030415/1004/SPORTS/Mi…
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:05 PM ^
OUTRAGE!!11!
October 4th, 2011 at 7:25 AM ^
WE did not start that lame trophy.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:06 PM ^
That must be their record since they joined the Big Ten. Or, it's since they actually became known as Michigan State University (and not College).
The true all-time record is 67-31-5 in our favor.
October 4th, 2011 at 7:16 AM ^
I was looking at my grandfather's 1938 Michigan State COLLEGE yearbook recently. It was titled the "Wolverine". They were wannabes even back then.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:09 PM ^
The only mature response to this outrage is to never post a link to the Detroit News ever again. Continue to read them, and post the gist of their information here, but no links. It is unthinkable we support any news organization who maliciously attempts to harm the Michigan brand like this!
/s
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:34 PM ^
This is almost certainly an honest mistake. The Freep jihad, not so much.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:32 AM ^
Calibrate your equipment.
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:31 PM ^
Still trying to drive that point home? Keep carrying that torch, man
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:35 PM ^
Damn phone
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:09 PM ^
Don't intend to sound rude, but I know what the true all time record is. If you read the article, it states incorrectly 35-25-2 as the "all time record". It does not specify the record being since we played for the paul bunyan trophy.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:13 PM ^
HORSESHIT.
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:32 PM ^
I could have sworn it was way higher than that.
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:46 PM ^
I think we have more than 12 wins against the SEC. We've beaten Vanderbilt a bunch of times, and in bowl games we've beaten Alabama twice, Florida twice, and Arkansas, Ole Miss and Auburn once apiece.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:57 AM ^
I found this: http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/bigten/michigan/vs_conf_opp…
And am promptly updating my signature. Thanks.
October 4th, 2011 at 12:34 PM ^
Just focusing on U-M's record against the SEC, the difference between the old record you used in your signature and the new one stems from whether or not Michigan played a particular team when they were currently a member of the SEC. The SEC wasn't formed until 1932, so the record of 20-6-1 you now cite includes 8 wins and 1 tie against Vanderbilt before the SEC was formed. Michigan also twice played South Carolina before they joined the SEC in 1991 (1 win and 1 loss), beat Kentucky in 1908, and beat Georgia Tech in 1934 when that school was an SEC member.
Here's a chart that appears to provide a full record of Michigan's results against SEC teams, and that includes only games when that team was part of the SEC. It appears to have one error because it includes two pre-1932 Vanderbilt games. If you take those two games out, the overall record becomes 12-5-0. (Source)
Individual Game Results of Michigan (vs SEC)
Date Opponent (record) Result Score Site 1/1/2011 vs. Mississippi State (9-4) L 14 52 @ Jacksonville, FL Gator Bowl 1/1/2008 vs. Florida (9-4) W 41 35 @ Orlando, FL Capital One Bowl 9/2/2006 vs. Vanderbilt (4-8) W 27 7 1/1/2003 vs. Florida (8-5) W 38 30 @ Tampa, FL Outback Bowl 1/1/2002 vs. Tennessee (11-2) L 17 45 @ Orlando, FL Citrus Bowl 1/1/2001 vs. Auburn (9-4) W 31 28 @ Orlando, FL Citrus Bowl 1/1/2000 vs. Alabama (10-3) W 35 34 @ Miami, FL Orange Bowl 1/1/1999 vs. Arkansas (9-3) W 45 31 @ Orlando, FL Citrus Bowl 1/1/1997 vs. Alabama (10-3) L 14 17 @ Tampa, FL Outback Bowl 1/1/1991 vs. Mississippi (9-3) W 35 3 @ Jacksonville, FL Gator Bowl 1/2/1988 vs. Alabama (7-5) W 28 24 @ Tampa, FL Hall of Fame Bowl 1/2/1984 vs. Auburn (11-1) L 7 9 @ New Orleans, LA Sugar Bowl 9/20/1969 vs. Vanderbilt (4-6) W 42 14 10/2/1965 vs. Georgia (6-4) L 7 15 10/5/1957 vs. Georgia (3-7) W 26 0 10/3/1953 vs. Tulane (1-8-1) W 26 7 10/20/1934 vs. Georgia Tech (1-9) W 9 2 10/13/1923 vs. Vanderbilt (5-2-1) W 3 0 10/14/1922 @ Vanderbilt (8-0-1) T 0 0
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:20 PM ^
Hmmm, I see that MSU faithful are calling the Mike Hart quote about little brother a curse, since we have not beaten them since. Hmmm, what do we need to do to lift the curse?
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:23 PM ^
Kill three chickens at midnight during a full moon in the middle of the Big House?
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:56 PM ^
murder 5 hookers at SMU?
- Craig James
October 4th, 2011 at 1:12 AM ^
Something like this?
October 4th, 2011 at 2:48 PM ^
There is no evidence to show that Craig James kilt 5 hookers while at SMU.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:25 PM ^
Didn't they say the "curse" applied to both football and basketball? We've taken care of one of those already.
October 4th, 2011 at 12:46 AM ^
Basketball has changed the tide on the curse
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:25 PM ^
We don't need anything but better players and better coaches. Curses are invented by fan bases with inferiority complexes and those not used to success, both of which are pretty much synonomous with Sparty.
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:51 PM ^
You're obviously not a Cubs fan. They're real. I promise.
October 3rd, 2011 at 11:14 PM ^
I have been in Chicago two months and I can second his statement.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:00 PM ^
How do we address the curse? It's already been addressed, his name is Brady Hoke.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:21 PM ^
poop
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:29 PM ^
all good answers but I may be leaning toward the 3 chicken thing, but have also been a Lions fan for a long time.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:46 PM ^
all those Sparty slappies are going to latch onto this and preach it as fact. <facepalm>
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:47 PM ^
I have never understood why some people are always trying to discount old games, declaring certain time periods to have pre-dated an arbitrary "modern era" and thus being less relevant (or irrelevant). Has the game changed over time? Certainly. But what makes a game from, say, 1920 any less important than the game from 1985? Count them all, I say.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:54 PM ^
It's pretty simple. The people whose teams don't have the history that Michigan does try to come up with excuses as to why our history shouldn't matter until they say it does.
October 4th, 2011 at 12:27 AM ^
...fans of teams with history tout overall records, Boise State fans talk about the last five years, and Lions fans are still gurgling about last Sunday.
They are all valid, but I'll feel better reminding my coworkers about Michigan's historical dominance when the memories of the last three years are a tiny bit less vivid.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:47 AM ^
Guess what...including the last 3 years, we still have the most wins and best win% of all time. Fans with history tout overall records because everyone who is below you is trying to catch you. Boise can go back 5 years all they want...I will go back 15 years and we have more wins and national championships. Why go back 15 years you ask? Because unless you look at the whole picture, you are fooling yourself. That is why all time is so important. I could say to Boise that judging on the last game only, we are a better team than you.
Be proud of Michigan's history. If you try to erase the last 3 years, you aren't any better than the State fans who think the rivalry starts when they think it does instead of when it actually does.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:02 PM ^
The Detroit News probably used the Wikipedia page for the Paul Bunyan Trophy as their reference.
Looking at the edit history of the page, it is clear that Sparty fans have been fighting their own jihad to try to rewrite the history of the rivalry by continuing to edit out the history of the rivalry before the trophy, creating the myth of the "Mike Hart Curse?", and having 5 of the 8 notable games listed as MSU wins when they have only won about 1/3 of the actual games. Unbelievable.
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:17 PM ^
to know is who gets to decide what the "Notable Trophy Games" are?
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:05 PM ^
some milk will make you feel better? We are talking about moo u you know...
[ED:BISB; WTF man...]
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:10 PM ^
for any thread on mgoblog. hellacious drain in mgopoints, commence!
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:11 PM ^
ya that is the first boob shot i have ever seen on this here blog.
let's separate ourselves as far as possible from RCMB please.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:13 PM ^
Not cool.
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<br>I'm at Yost at the game and this image popped up on my phone with kids around. Ban hammer, please
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:21 PM ^
le sigh.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:13 PM ^
It's classy. And it's pretty funny with the milk/boobs/moo u thing, I think!
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:58 PM ^
tag this NSFW before StephenRKass sees it!!!
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:12 PM ^
Sorry I couldn't find any of those leaked Scarlett Johanssen nude pics! They're incredible! Her boobs are really nice. Not quite what I was expecting but they look real and spectacular! Sorry Brian!
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:45 PM ^
shut up
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:23 PM ^
I'm in class "taking notes" (reading mgoblog) and everyone behind me probably thinks I'm looking at porn
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:01 PM ^
Don't tempt the kitty...
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:06 PM ^
hott