All other NFL teams vs. Brady the GOAT

Submitted by Blue_sophie on

In an article by Frank Schwab at Yahoo sports, it looks like the other NFL owners are pushing Goodell to maintain Brady's original suspension. The first line of his article says it all:

"Jealousy can cause people to act irrationally, and that apparently holds true for NFL owners as well."

Some stories never die. I am glad mainstream sports writers are also sick of this kangaroo court.

 

Edit: I probably should also link to the original ESPN article, but try to avoid sending traffic to the Worldwide Leader whenever possible.

His Dudeness

July 23rd, 2015 at 1:19 PM ^

Isn't it the officials responsibility to make sure the equipment is within league guidlines?

I've never really understood this whole situation.

And even if they were withing league guidlines and then Brady had some guys deflate them then isn't that an error in the process by the NFL? How does a game ball get onto the field without an official touching it?

This whole thing is so so dumb. The NFL is such a caveman convention.

Zarniwoop

July 23rd, 2015 at 4:46 PM ^

This.

Seriously.

Every league that I'm aware of on earth does this except the NFL.

I'm actually curious if the NFL ever did provide balls but stopped after complaints by quarterbacks/teams that the ball wasn't to their liking.

In baseball the ump would make some scatalogical reference to your mother and tell you to shut your hole.

Anyone know this? WD! I choose you to find this answer!

grumbler

July 23rd, 2015 at 6:53 PM ^

The league provided the balls (which were used by both teams indiscriminately) until about 2003, and the problem was that NFL officials did a crappy job of prepping the balls.  Then the rule was changed to the home team providing all the ball, until in 2006 the rule became that each team provided its own balls.

What makes this whole thing silly is that the tampering scenario requires that one man, in a tiny bathroom, 

(1) accurately measured and

(2) deflated all twelve balls to

(3) a precise pressure in a small bathroom

(4) in less than 60 seconds,

when multiple NFL officials working in plenty of room and on a table

(1) couldn't even accurately measure more than 16 balls

(2) in 15 minutes

The entire proposed "cheating" scenario is simply unbelievable on the face of it.  No further evidence is really required.

Blue_sophie

July 23rd, 2015 at 1:36 PM ^

I don't think anybody really understands the situation, hence the confusing and contradictory Wells report, and the need for a rebuttal by the American Enterprise Institute (don't they have better things to do?). 

The next few months will be all about saving face in this ginned up theater of the absurd. My guess is it will all end up going away some time during the season when everybody has better things to worry about (winning football games).

True Blue Grit

July 23rd, 2015 at 2:31 PM ^

witchhunt has been to avert everyone's attention away from where the blame should really be placed - on the NFL for having lax or non-existent standards of quality control (for want of a better term) and for allowing each team to maintain their own balls.  If the whole inflation level of each ball is that frickin important, why doesn't the NFL have some people controlling the ball supply for each game?  In going after Brady, they are just looking for a fall guy to cover up their own screw ups.  

DealerCamel

July 23rd, 2015 at 1:28 PM ^

If anything, you'd think they'd see how ridiculous this whole thing is and support one of the greatest ambassadors for the league, but nope.  Everyone wants to tear down the champ.

ak47

July 23rd, 2015 at 2:21 PM ^

Montana was better, Marino was better, Manning was better.He may be tied for the most accomplished quarterback but he isn't the best.

If you had the oporutnity to draft every qb at their prime brady wouldn't be the first one taken.  It is that simple.

Smoothitron

July 23rd, 2015 at 4:29 PM ^

...little help?  I like Tom as much as the next guy, but having a top 2 coach for your entire career, a top 2 receiver for your best statistical year, and a top 10 defense pretty much every year doesn't really qualify for that.

EDIT: ...but this is coming from a guy whose best NFL memory is Marlin Jackson picking Brady off in the AFCCG.

ak47

July 23rd, 2015 at 5:09 PM ^

One of the greats and greatest of all time is two completely different statements.  Brady is one of the greats but isn't the greatest of all time. Both are true statements.

But of the QB's listed Brady might have had the most help of any of those guys for most of his career.  Elite defenses for the first half of his career, one of the best coaches of all time, his best year included maybe the most physically gifted wr of all time, etc.

Mattinboots

July 23rd, 2015 at 9:06 PM ^

This is a joke, right?  Elite defenses sure, but so did the 49ers.  And Moss was in the twilight of his career that 2007 season.  He blew up BECAUSE of Brady.  Not the other way around.  And to use this as an argument against Brady when Montana had Rice is just laughable.  Not to take away from Young, but it's arguable the 49ers won the three super bowls in 6 years because of Rice and not the QB.  

Brady straight up won the super bowls for the Pats and it was the defense and two ridiculous catches (almost three) that kept him from being perfect.

jonvalk

July 23rd, 2015 at 7:58 PM ^

You can argue that Marino is the best pure passer and Montana has the unblemished SB record, but there's almost no way that you can argue for Brady being below Manning unless you just don't like Brady. Montana did his damage before free agency messed up rosters and had elite defenses and the best WR of all time for his whole career, so he wasn't wanting for much either. Manning had two pro-bowl receivers, a solid running game, elite offensive line, and a mediocre defense, playing in one of the worst divisions in the NFL. I'm with you on Marino. If he had been on a team with competent pieces, he would probably be the GOAT. As it stands, though, Brady is the most clutch (he didn't lose those 2 Super Bowls, his "elite defenses" couldn't hold off the Giants for a series) quarterback in our generation, owns one of the best offensive seasons on record, and has been to more Super Bowls than anyone. For my money, forget even the Michigan connection, he's awesome. If people want to hate on him because his life seems charmed, so be it, but those people would love a wife who is as hot as she is wealthy and business savvy.



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GBBlue

July 23rd, 2015 at 3:38 PM ^

but he was quite good for us. His 1999 performances against PSU and Alabama were excellent, and hinted at his illustrious future. Plus, his story at UM is a pretty good lesson in perserverance and grit, which allowed him to beat out the heralded, and arguably favored, Drew Henson. Since he's been in the league, he's been a top notch alumnus and representative for the university. And who doesn't want the GOAT to be from his or her alma mater?

Tex_Ind_Blue

July 23rd, 2015 at 5:20 PM ^

This is something I never get anyone else to understand! He was not considered the best qb in that 99 team. But he was the one who got things done when the game was in doubt. He always had to look over his shoulder because Henson was waiting in the wings. But he persevered through that and whenever the opportunity came, he took it and never looked back. The 99 team was discombobulated because they were playing a different qb in each quarter. Ultimately, when they lost to State that Carr came to his senses and gave the reins to Brady. His is the story about 99% perspiration and 1% inspiration. 

But since 2007 it's mostly a "pretty boy with supermodel wife" image. Having seen how he was doubted by the local media in 99, I think he deserves all of it and then some. 

UMProud

July 23rd, 2015 at 2:26 PM ^

Whole thing is ridiculous...there are numerous QBs on record stating how they like the balls inflated soft or rock hard etc for their personal taste.  These owners are hypocrites and the NFL looks like keystone cops on this issue.

Blue_sophie

July 23rd, 2015 at 4:12 PM ^

You should start a Raiders thread. I would definitely post.

Unless you live in San Diego, in which case there is not a lot to talk about since Mouton was waived.

Wait. . . are you a fan of the Ballin' Trent Baalkes of Silicon Valley? (Sorry, nothing personal, East Bay pride!)

Well in any case, they also don't have a Michigan player on their roster.

 

aratman

July 23rd, 2015 at 2:49 PM ^

I am sure if you felt a few pound under inflated football you couldn't tell the difference.  His involvment I am sure was to say I like them soft.  Now how that relates to the ball being within the rules probably never crossed anyones mind.  It had no effect on the game, if it did effect the game the gauges would be calibrated. The league would hold the balls.