All Beilein Teams
I posted this in another thread when I couldn't start threads. Think this could be fun.
For my list, I'm valueing peak performance but also overall contribution. so McGary is an odd case because he's by far the best big man coach B has had but his great play is about 6 or so games.
1st team:
pg: Trey Burke
wing: Tim Hardaway jr
wing: Manny Harris
pf: Deshawn Simms
c: Jordan Morgan
2nd team:
pg: Darius Morris
wing: Nik Stauskus
wing: Glenn Robinson III
pf: Zak Novak
c: Mitch McGary
3rd team:
pg: Lavall Lucas-Perry
pg:: Spike Albrecht
wing: Stu Douglas
wing: Caris Lavert
c: Jon Horford
I put this list together in January. I'd possibly switch Stauskus and maybe GRIII to the first team today.
Burke, Hardaway Jr, Stauskas, Morgan, McGary
GRIII in for Hardaway just for his athleticism.
/s? Yeah, Hardaway was pretty good, but if only he were athletic...
most users would use common sense and understand that, while Hardaway is VERY athletic, GRIII is on a higher level. Since we're talking about optimizing the team, small differences must be magnified.
EDIT: And thanks for the downvote. I'll refrain returning the favor since it was just a misunderstanding.
lol I didn't downvote you actually. I don't downvote unless someone's being a dick or someone makes a really stupid new topic that shouldn't be posted. But I did upvote your first team now since I agree with it.
"most users would use common sense and understand that, while Hardaway is VERY athletic, GRIII is on a higher level" Are you saying it's common sense that GRIII is more athletic than Hardaway? The athetlic abilities of Michigan's basketball players is not common knowledge actually. And even among Michigan fans, I wouldn't say GRIII being more athletic is common sense. They seem the same to me in that regard.
damn his unathleticism!
I presume you recognize that Hardaway is in the NBA, and thriving, in large part because of his athletic ability? And while GRIII can jump high, he has a relatively slow first step and has trouble getting past many college defenders.
I wonder what it will look like in another 3 or 4 years
I agree Staukas should be higher but it's hard to bump either Hardaway or Harris. Let's see how the tournament goes.
Guard: David Merritt
Guard: CJ Lee
Forward: Anthony Wright
Forward: Colton Christian
Center: Zach Gibson
That's one gritty lineup
My lists would look different.
especially when you consider the team surrounding him. Manny would've done much better if he had the same supporting cast as Stauskas. Manny was an underrated passer (see his Assist Rate which is very impressive considering no one else can shoot). I'd still put him at 1st team.
pg - Burke
sg - Stauskas
sf- Harris
pf - Novak
c - Morgan
Apologies to Tim Hardaway, who would be my sixth man. Novak and Morgan aren't the most talented players at their positions, but they contributed the most to their teams and the program.
Novak? You serious?
If its all players Beilein has coached I would go with the following:
1st Team
PG: Trey Burke
Wing: Nik Stauskas
Wing: Tim Hardaway Jr
Forward: DeShawn Simms
Center: Kevin Pittsnogle (WVU)
2nd Team
PG: Darius Morris
Wing: Mike Gansey (WVU)
Wing: Manny Harris
Forward: Glenn Robinson III
Center: Mitch McGary
3rd Team:
PG: Spike Albrecht
Wing: Joe Alexander (WVU)
Wing: Caris LaVert
Forward: De'Shawn Butler (WVU)
Center: Jordan Morgan
as I don't see Pittsnogle or any of the other WVU guys on here.
If you're having to put Lavall Lucas-Perry on one of the All-Beilein teams, you've tried to come up with too many All-Beilein teams
PG: Burke
Wing: Stauskas
Wing: THJ
Post: Sims
Post: McGary
Bench: Manny Fresh, GRIII, LeVert, Morris, Novak, Morgan, Dakich, Bartlestein (last two for celebration purposes)
This team will be a lot harder to put together in a few years as Irvin and Walton play more, as well as others we're yet to see.
Probably the most realistic list I've read in here
Denard
Charles
Tim Hardaway Sr.
Big Dog
Julius Peppers
/ spectators list
not saying LLP was great, but its not like i exactly snubbed isaiah thomas for the third team pg spot... also, i made this list in january, i even today i'd say its debatable between LLP and walton, but walton had done diddly at that point.
LLP was on the teams that beat duke and ucla, fond memmories, no?
Maybe my memory's off, but I really can't recall LLP ever being even the 3rd or 4th best player on the team(s) he was on
...that's why I don't think LLP should be on the list.
Limited to his time at Michigan:
Trey Burke/Darius Morris/Derrick Walton
Tim Hardaway Jr or Manny Harris/Stu Douglass
Nik Stauskas/Zach Novak
Glenn Robinson III or DeShawn Sims
Mitch McGary or Jordan Morgan
Something like that? Thought about putting Ekpe Udoh on there. Felt bad about leaving Caris Levert off.
PG: Spike
SG: Stauskas
SF: THJ
PF: NOVAK
C: Jordan Morgan
So much IQ there. Grit. Heart. Passion. Leadership.
PG: Burke
SG: Stauskas
SF: Hardaway Jr.
PF: 2013 NCAA tournament Mitch McGary
C: Senior J-Mo for defense, heady play and leadership
Team 1
PG Burke
SG Hardaway Jr.
SF Stauskas
PF GR III
C McGary
team 1 is Team Highlights strangley enough its last years tourney starting line-up
Team 2
PG Morris
SG Levert
SF Harris
PF Sims
C Morgan
Team 2 would be Flyers I know Morgan should be on team 1 but I have to add him with Morris the pick and roll tag team is too fun to pass up
Team 3
PG Spike
SG Douglass
SF Jevohn Shepard
PF Novak
C Horford
Team 3 is Team Grit and plus this team could probably beat this years Penn St and Northwestern
Team 4
PG CJ Lee
SG Eso Ekunne
SF David Merritt
PF Anthony Wright
C Zack Gibson
Team 4 would be Team Subs didnt start but were spark plugs coming off the bench when called
Kevin Pittsnogle?!!
He's selling cars for Miller's Chrysler/Dodge in Martinsburg, West Virginia.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/ex-west-virginia-cult-he…
The fact that this is so tough shows just how great Beilein has been. I'm basing mine purely on talent.
PG Trey Burke
SG Nik
F Manny Harris
F GRIII
C Mitch McGary
Jordan Morgan a forward?
Epke Udoh. He is definitely a 1st teamer here. He played for Beilein one season before transferring to Baylor. Apparently, he wasn't a fan of the Beilein system.
the year Beilein started....