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Al Borges is a very fine fellow, and called a great game.

Good job with offensive play calling. Everyone gave maximum effort.  Thank you, seniors.

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January 1st, 2013 at 5:45 PM | This will not end well. (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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This will not end well.

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January 1st, 2013 at 7:13 PM | This is, without any doubt, (Score:5 Normal)
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This is, without any doubt, the douchiest response to a thread that has ever existed.  So tired.  Stop.

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January 1st, 2013 at 7:38 PM | I HATE "this will not end well" (Score:3 Normal)
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I HATE "this will not end well." Thank you very mucy.

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January 1st, 2013 at 5:45 PM | Absolutely (Score:5 Normal)
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He clearly had developed the kind of game plan we had hoped he would. Fantastic game. Brutal finish. 

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January 1st, 2013 at 5:46 PM | By fine game, you mean safe, (Score:-1 Trolling)
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By fine game, you mean safe, predictable, and ineffectual, right?

Denard in the gun, guess what? We're running the ball!

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January 1st, 2013 at 5:50 PM | That game was predictable? (Score:5 Normal)
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That game was predictable? Damn, I thought I saw some new screens, a Statue of Liberty play, and Denard running from the I-formation (which he hasn't done before).  I guess I was wrong.

Gardner missed a lot of wide open receivers and held onto the ball too long.  That doesn't mean Borges called a bad game.  We just don't have a lot of talent.  That's not on him.

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January 1st, 2013 at 5:54 PM | If there was one thing our (Score:4 Normal)
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If there was one thing our offense was not, it was predictable.

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January 1st, 2013 at 6:19 PM | Agreed.  Only thing I would (Score:3 Normal)
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Agreed.  Only thing I would have liked to see is Denard throwing the ball.  I used to love those sucker plays where Denard would get the snap in the shotgun and run up as if to run the zone and shoot a pass right past oncoming defenders to a usually wide open receiver....Alas, we could have won this one!

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January 1st, 2013 at 6:21 PM | He threw it once. It was (Score:5 Normal)
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He threw it once. It was incomplete. Brian was correct.

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January 1st, 2013 at 7:17 PM | Except every play with Denard (Score:4 Normal)
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Except every play with Denard at quarterback.

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January 1st, 2013 at 6:00 PM | I agree, up to a point. For the most part, (Score:-1 Trolling)
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We simply don't have the talent to execute even the most simple of plays. However, any direct snap to Denard was very predictable and ended up with a minimal gain, at best. The play call on the second two point conversion was inexcusable in my opinion.

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January 1st, 2013 at 6:20 PM | The worst of the worst play (Score:1)
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The worst of the worst play calling, was the last 2 point conversion, debate that one.

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January 2nd, 2013 at 4:26 AM |  I've never seen a single (Score:4 Normal)
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 I've never seen a single football game where I agreed with every offensive play call....

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January 1st, 2013 at 6:37 PM | Borges Called an Amazing Game (Score:2 Normal)
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I thought he called an amazing game, and I thought he introduced a lot of great new plays and I was so happy to see a coaching staff that was in it to win it, rather than just not lose.  However, do you really agree with ever putting someone in at QB who can't throw the ball?

Jake Ryan will be All B1G this year.

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January 1st, 2013 at 6:39 PM | Considering it worked most of the time (Score:0 Redundant)
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AGREE!

I do it for my love of the Streets

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January 1st, 2013 at 7:24 PM | While I don't think Borges (Score:2 Normal)
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While I don't think Borges called a horrible game, his play calls with Denard at QB were predictable and running from under center lessons haven't been learned.  Also I find it funny how we don't have the talent on offense now even though with a different offensive framework we were putting up great numbers.  I'm sorry, but the "we don't have the talent" excuse is bullshit.  We might be alright in the long run but Borges and Hoke have failed miserably this year in adjusting the offense to their talent and they did at times last year as well.

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January 1st, 2013 at 7:56 PM | We were putting up great numbers against crap defenses. (Score:3 Normal)
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Compare Mississippi State to this game. And South Carolina is a lot better team.

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January 1st, 2013 at 5:53 PM | So tell me Bando, with your (Score:5 Normal)
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So tell me Bando, with your vast knowledge of the Michigan offensive playbook and which plays the team practiced leading up to the bowl game, what would you have called differently?

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January 1st, 2013 at 6:11 PM | A great way to win an (Score:2 Normal)
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A great way to win an argument is to ask questions no one can answer.

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January 1st, 2013 at 6:14 PM | A great way to lose an (Score:5 Normal)
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A great way to lose an argument is to offer vague criticisms without any specific evidence.

You're doing a top-notch job.

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January 1st, 2013 at 6:16 PM | Still no plays? Not a one? (Score:4 Normal)
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Still no plays? Not a one?

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January 1st, 2013 at 6:19 PM | Lets start with the two point (Score:-1 Trolling)
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Lets start with the two point conversion. Does that work for you?

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January 1st, 2013 at 6:21 PM | It's a start. So what play (Score:5 Normal)
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It's a start.

So what play would you have called in its place?

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January 1st, 2013 at 6:24 PM | To start, I put Gardner back (Score:1 Normal)
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To start, I put Gardner back there and not telegraph we're running the football. Anyone who has watched Michigan since Denard got hurt knows what to defend against.

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January 1st, 2013 at 6:30 PM | OK, so we know which QB (Score:5 Normal)
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OK, so we know which QB you'd have in the game. Now, what play would you call?

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January 1st, 2013 at 6:33 PM | What's your point? (Score:0 Overrated)
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What's your point?

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January 1st, 2013 at 6:37 PM | You really haven't figured it (Score:5 Normal)
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You really haven't figured it out by now?

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January 1st, 2013 at 8:09 PM | You're an asshole dude (Score:-1 Normal)
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Our team lost, Bando is pissed. Leave it alone, as you know nothing about football.

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January 1st, 2013 at 8:16 PM | In almost every comment you (Score:3 Normal)
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In almost every comment you make you're calling someone an idiot or an asshole. I think it's time for the ban hammer.

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January 1st, 2013 at 10:54 PM | It's time for the ban hammer. (Score:-1 Trolling)
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And you have a lovely day ma'am.

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January 1st, 2013 at 11:05 PM | Is calling me a woman (Score:5 Normal)
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Is calling me a woman supposed to be an insult? I like women. They're pretty great.

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January 1st, 2013 at 8:24 PM | Knock off the name calling... (Score:2 Normal)
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and the insults. No need for that.

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January 1st, 2013 at 6:43 PM | I get the sense that you (Score:5 Normal)
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I get the sense that you watched this game with some preconceived ideas about Borges as a playcaller, looking for negatives.  I don't think every playcall was great, but overall we scored 28 points against a team giving up 17.4 on the season, and we did that with Gardner at QB and Toussaint out of the game.  And we could have scored more - Gardner was off on a lot of makeable passes.  I think overall, Borges did a solid job and was done in by inconsistent execution and uncharacteristically bad defense.

 

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January 1st, 2013 at 8:04 PM | I have to admit (Score:5 Normal)
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I watched this game with preconceived notions of Borges as a play caller. After the painful debacle at Ohio, I was convinced we'd lose bc he'd run the same predictable Denard qb run/Devin qb pass packages. I was wrong. He called a phenomenal, extremely creative game, and I am really excited about the future. Disappointing to lose, but his play calling and the offensive play overall was enough to mitigate the loss. Borges has earned my two bit respect!

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January 1st, 2013 at 5:52 PM | Oh I get it you (Score:5 Normal)
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Wanted Denard to do something he's done once in three games. That was a great game and plan and it shouldn't be hard to see that.

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January 1st, 2013 at 6:22 PM | Lets also address the fact (Score:-1 Trolling)
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Lets also address the fact that in two years, Borges never found a way to effectively use Denard and Gardner at the same time.

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January 1st, 2013 at 6:26 PM | He did in this game.   (Score:5 Normal)
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He did in this game.

 

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January 1st, 2013 at 6:28 PM | He did? Pray tell. (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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He did? Pray tell.

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January 1st, 2013 at 6:32 PM | Denard looked mighty good (Score:5 Normal)
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Denard looked mighty good with Devin handing him the ball from the running back spot.

What do you want to see? Denard and Devin lined in a sort of split QB formation, throwing the ball back and forth to each other? How many times have you seen that sort of offense work? Because we tried it last year and it went quite horribly.

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January 1st, 2013 at 8:31 PM | Seriously. (Score:5 Normal)
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Denard had 107 yards on the day, rushing and recieving from Gardner, who himself passed for 214 and three TD's. I suppose you're not happy unless your QB and RB combine for a 300-200 day?

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January 2nd, 2013 at 2:31 PM | "I suppose you're not happy (Score:2 Normal)
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"I suppose you're not happy unless your QB and RB combine for a 300-200 day?"

I don't know a single Michigan fan, personally, that is 'happy' after the bowl game.  But to address your comments, I'm always going to prefer that all players are used to their maximum potential.  If you're happy with the offensive output, and feel that's their cap, I respect your opinion.

I think we've had better offensive numbers in the past and haven't been overwhelmed by our coaching staff in general this year.

I thought the team played extremely hard, and was proud of the players.

"Do not disturb my circles."
 

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January 1st, 2013 at 6:31 PM | You know Gardner played (Score:5 Normal)
Lazer with a Z
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You know Gardner played receiver like half of the year, right?

Strive to win. If you lose....win. 

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January 1st, 2013 at 8:12 PM | Thank you (Score:-1 Trolling)
inthebluelot
Joined: 01/05/2010
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Just give up, these Borgess apologists will never learn. They're happy with 8-5 and that's the final word. Hoke's undoing will be Borgess, unless he cuts him loose.

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January 1st, 2013 at 8:17 PM | LOL, "Borges apologists." (Score:4 Normal)
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LOL, "Borges apologists."

HOKEAMANIA RUNNIN' WILD

Formerly, TheLastProphet

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January 1st, 2013 at 8:23 PM | I'm no Borges apologist, nor (Score:5 Normal)
panthera leo fututio
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I'm no Borges apologist, nor do I think that 8-5 makes for a very satisfying season. But I also think that the offense outperformed expectations today, and Borges deserves a lot of credit for that. I don't know how you could watch today's game and not see a lot of productive creativity in what he drew up.

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January 1st, 2013 at 10:05 PM | Seriously.  We scored 28 (Score:5 Normal)
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Seriously.  We scored 28 points on one of the top defenses in the country, and were one bad throw away from winning.  I hated the playcalling against OSU, but that was not the issue today.  We had a good gameplan, we just didn't get quite enough execution to win.  Hell, if our defense gets one sack on that last drive, we'd all be psyched because we'd have won.  

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January 1st, 2013 at 5:57 PM | I think it was fine in the (Score:5 Normal)
Blarvey
Joined: 11/21/2011
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I think it was fine in the sense that we didn't have a true TB yet still rushed for over 120 yards. Denard got more touches and the passing was better than against OSU only DG had some bad passes and made some bad decisions. It sucks that we lost but it was the deep middle coverage that cost us the game.

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January 1st, 2013 at 6:09 PM | This. (Score:3 Normal)
clarkiefromcanada
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I was thinking of how that team would have fared with a true game breaking level tailback.

If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone

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January 1st, 2013 at 5:59 PM | Wasn't it (Score:5 Normal)
HollywoodHokeHogan
Joined: 02/12/2011
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Denard that threw a 5 yard pass into the dirt today??  Can't imagine why we didn't run that play more often.

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January 2nd, 2013 at 2:46 AM | Actually, in the first half (Score:3 Normal)
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Actually, in the first half we had 21 rushing plays, and 23 passing. With the last two plays of the half being passing plays. Meaning we were at a 21-21 split. I woudn't say that would be predictable... I didn't break it down as to first-third down. but a total split at 50-50 is pretty darn impressive.

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