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Air Force Front 7s

Time to look to next Saturday.

 

LT -  6'5 260 - Kons

LG - 6'3 255  - Kerber

C   -  6'0 250  - Husar

RG - 6'3 260 -  Eason

RT - 6'6 250 - Husskisson

TE - 6'5 240  - Briehlman

                                                     

DE  -  6'1 240 - Champaign

NG -  6'1 260 Miller OR

           6'2 240 DeJulio

DE -    6'4 265 Fitzgerald

OLB  - 6'5 240 Means

MLB - 6'1 220 Niklas

MLB - 6'0 220  Kusan

OLB  - 6'2 220 Jones

 

Think we might have a bit of a size advantage.

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September 2nd, 2012 at 10:22 AM | No surprise (Score:5 Normal)
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We were going to run train on them back in January, we were going to run more train on them after they lost 5 starters, and now we're going to run extra angry train on them.

No excuses. Play like a champion.

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September 2nd, 2012 at 10:22 AM | That's a Welcome Sight (Score:1)
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After last night.  It should be fun, but certainly not a cake walk.

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September 2nd, 2012 at 10:22 AM | The imposEEs will become the (Score:5 Funny)
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The imposEEs will become the imposERS.

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September 2nd, 2012 at 10:30 AM | Triple option of Doom. (Score:-1 Trolling)
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Triple option of Doom.

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September 2nd, 2012 at 10:32 AM | Love their names on the O (Score:2)
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Love their names on the O line.

Touchdown Michigan!

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September 2nd, 2012 at 10:36 AM | People say the same thing about Boise St. (Score:2 Normal)
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Size doesn't = domination. Now BSU is much more talented than Air Force, but you can't just look at height and weight to determine the outcome. They have a disciplined system that we're going to have trouble with at time.

I think it's ugly in the first half and we make adjustments and pull away in the 2nd half. I think it's a lot like the Northwestern game last year.

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September 2nd, 2012 at 10:39 AM | Size isn't as important (Score:3 Normal)
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For their o-line. They cut block like crazy, which all academy teams do with smaller linemen. Seeing teams like Air Force and Navy have success against the likes of TCU recently (400 plus yards) and Ohio St. In 2009 (31-27) have me worried about our shoddy tackling D.

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September 2nd, 2012 at 11:45 AM | Maybe not as much on the OL, (Score:2)
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Maybe not as much on the OL, but it sure matters on the DL. Our OL will be able to push them all over the place and we'll run on them at will. We won't need to double anyone.

And they can cut block all they want, but that's only so effective. You end up with a pile of bodies on the line of scrimmage, which can be tough to run through. If they go around the outside, we'll have Ryan and Provacs to clean it up.

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September 2nd, 2012 at 11:57 AM | The triple option is designed (Score:3 Normal)
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The triple option is designed so that linemen don't have to hold their blocks as long.  So even there they're okay, plus Air Force's O-line is their most experienced unit and it's not like they're not used to running against a size disadvantage.  Where Air Force always runs into trouble is when there's a penetrating d-lineman who can get into the rush lanes and fast linebackers make good reads.  Based off of last night I'm not calling either of those a strength for the D.  This is going to be a long day for M, I think Michigan wins, but it's not the comfortable blowout everyone expects, even if they play angry.

Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.  It always defeats order because it is better organized. 

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September 2nd, 2012 at 12:21 PM | I thought our DL played (Score:3 Normal)
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I thought our DL played pretty well last night, they were just playing against an NFL OL. And it's hard to tell much about our LBs for the same reason. Point is, AFA never throws, and we have good tacklers on our team. We won't have to tackle Lacy and Yeldon next week.

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September 2nd, 2012 at 2:34 PM | Our tackling is going to be fine. (Score:2)
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Our tackling is going to be fine. Last night the defense was a little overwhelmed with the physicalness and speed of Alabama and they became tentative and played slower and less aggressive than they otherwise would.  They are not going to see that type of talent again until perhaps a bowl game.

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September 2nd, 2012 at 10:42 AM | Definitely ready (Score:2 Normal)
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to talk about something other than "horrible call's, dirty players, bama, global worming etc." Looking forward to this game, and the B1G schedule.. Go Blue..

Go Blue !!

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September 2nd, 2012 at 10:46 AM | Shit those earthworms are (Score:5 Normal)
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Shit those earthworms are gonna be everywhere.

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September 2nd, 2012 at 10:51 AM | Oops, (Score:1)
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Lol typo, my bad. Still doesn't change the fact..( I blame this phone). And yes those earthworms are epic..

Go Blue !!

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September 2nd, 2012 at 1:19 PM | I can get behind global worming (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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But anthropogenic global warming? Not so much.

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September 2nd, 2012 at 3:29 PM | What belongs to the call? (Score:1)
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What belongs to the call?

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September 2nd, 2012 at 10:51 AM | Hell with an average weight (Score:1)
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Hell with an average weight of the o-line being only 260lbs our d-line should feel like they're pushing practice dummies around compared to the 300+ o-line for Bama!! Look to have a better defensive game this Saturday!

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September 2nd, 2012 at 11:05 AM | Quite The Difference... (Score:3 Informative)
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Utilizing the "Unofficial Two Deep" on this site, we're taller just about everywhere, and our front seven on defense outweighs their offensive front by over 300 pounds total. Further, our offensive line outweighs their front seven by over 100 pounds total. I think we can push them around a bit, yes. 

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September 2nd, 2012 at 11:15 AM | Wow! (Score:1 Flamebait)
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We better be able to push them around.  We need a big win to give us some hope for the rest of the season.  I know we will be better than what we saw last night.

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September 2nd, 2012 at 11:28 AM | Hopefully (Score:1)
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Maybe our LBs will come to play this week ... If not then i'm hoping the freshmen take over... Demens was terrible last night

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September 2nd, 2012 at 11:29 AM | He played? (Score:2)
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Honestly didn't see him once

So hot.  Milk was a bad choice.

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September 2nd, 2012 at 12:21 PM | That's because all the Bama (Score:3 Normal)
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That's because all the Bama players thought he was camera-shy and kept pushing him off screen

If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?

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September 2nd, 2012 at 11:29 AM | If those numbers are accurate (Score:1)
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If those numbers are accurate it should be an absolute blood bath on Saturday.  The fanbase is hungry.  We're going to eat, too.  

"to make a complete evaluation off video w/o seeing guys in-person - I don't believe that at all." - Josh Helmholdt

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September 2nd, 2012 at 11:59 AM | Used the Air Force athletic (Score:2)
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Used the Air Force athletic department website.. think they are as accurate as can be.

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September 2nd, 2012 at 11:38 AM | Our biggest concern this week (Score:1 Normal)
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Our biggest concern this week is an Alabama hangover. The coaches, as well as Denard and Kovacs, need to get in everyone's face and keep them motivated. I see one of two scenarios. Either:



We come out pissed off and revved up by the crowd, and take out all of our anger on Air Force, resulting in a bloodbath, or the guys come in deflated and still down on themselves after the Alabama game, and Air Force catches them off guard in an upset. Then you're 0-2 and really facing an uphill battle.

It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk

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September 2nd, 2012 at 11:49 AM | Every year (Score:3 Normal)
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Why is it that when we play like crap for a game...especially a tough game...people start freaking out and think we'll lose to teams that we'll absolutely eviscerate.

Look at the leadership among the players and coaches of this team. There's no way we come out flat on Saturday.

No excuses. Play like a champion.

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September 2nd, 2012 at 12:10 PM | Usually those 'crap' (Score:1)
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games seem to appear against good teams. That's the cause for concern.

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September 2nd, 2012 at 12:17 PM | Wrong. Playing poorly against (Score:3 Normal)
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Wrong. Playing poorly against bad teams would be cause for concern. Last night we didn't exactly play poorly, we played a really good team. They were better than us. Remember the national championship game last year? We looked about as good as LSU did against Bama. Let's not go overboard here.

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September 2nd, 2012 at 12:50 PM | Exactly.  We could've put up (Score:2)
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Exactly.  We could've put up a couple more TD's had we had Fitz and hit a couple of those open long balls, which is more than I think a lot of teams will do against this 'bama team.  We got beat, but I think we'll be just fine going forward so long as no major injuries happen.

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September 2nd, 2012 at 1:08 PM | No LSU looked like they (Score:1 Overrated)
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No LSU looked like they belonged on the same field. Michigan didn't.

Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.  It always defeats order because it is better organized. 

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September 2nd, 2012 at 1:10 PM | Dafuq (Score:3 Normal)
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Did you even watch that game? LSU got a moderately better push up the middle and that's really it.

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September 2nd, 2012 at 1:42 PM | I don't think LSU crossed the (Score:1)
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I don't think LSU crossed the 50. Yeah our Touchdowns were big plays, but we moved the ball a lot better than LSU did

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September 2nd, 2012 at 11:47 AM | Golfcourse Tailgating & Construction at Main Street (Score:1)
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Coming from Detroit Metro Airport, does anyone know the best route to the golf course on gameday to avoid traffic and construction detours? I hear there is construction on Main Street near the entrance to the golf course. Any feedback is greatly appreciated!

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September 2nd, 2012 at 11:50 AM | Simple (Score:1 Overrated)
BlastBeat88
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Don't drive into Ann Arbor on game day.

I'm sorry, I don't know why you think there's any way to avoid traffic in a town that isn't designed to handle any large volume of cars.

No excuses. Play like a champion.

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September 2nd, 2012 at 12:24 PM | Besides the "don't drive on (Score:3 Normal)
Lionsfan
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Besides the "don't drive on Gameday", just take 94 and get off at Main Street. The construction is the bridge on Stadium over State, but I'm pretty sure there's access to the Golf Course from the Main/Stadium Intersection

If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?

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September 2nd, 2012 at 4:24 PM | That is Correct (Score:1)
OldBlueMan
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We drove to AAGO twice this week, normally a ten minute drive was about twenty-five minutes due to a lot of construction all over the town.  Stadium is two lanes heading east from Main Street to AAGO and then one lane to the University golf course.

Traffic will be a worse shit storm than normal and the cops will be more prickly than usual.

My wife is bitching about it already.

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September 2nd, 2012 at 11:58 AM | Correct me if I'm wrong but (Score:1)
Bobby Boucher
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Correct me if I'm wrong but don't they rely on surprise and not size?  We should dominate them at the LOS, but the real issue is contain.  That's something we didn't do well last night and hopefully it had more to do with the talent we faced than our actual abilities.  However, I think we'll put up a lot of points with Toussant back in the mix.

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September 2nd, 2012 at 12:01 PM | I have the opposite impression (Score:2)
BlastBeat88
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I thought we did a pretty good job forcing the ball back inside when Alabama wanted the edge, but we got blown so far off the ball at the LOS that it didn't matter.

We're going to run train on Air Force. It's not you, but I'm already sick of the freakoutfest.

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September 2nd, 2012 at 12:18 PM | Yes, Air Force is always (Score:2 Normal)
Rabbit21
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Yes, Air Force is always outweighed by it's opponents and yet they manage to do okay. I'm expecting a shootout.

Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.  It always defeats order because it is better organized. 

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September 2nd, 2012 at 12:26 PM | You keep saying how they do (Score:3 Normal)
WolvinLA2
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You keep saying how they do well or OK against teams much bigger than them, but where's the evidence? Last year AFA got creamed by ND, TCU, Boise, SDSU and lost to Wyoming and Toledo. The best team they beat last year was...Navy?

Typically, AFA loses to team who have a big physical advantage on them, like us. Their option works against teams with only a slight size advantage. If it was so magical everyone would do it.

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September 2nd, 2012 at 1:16 PM | Every team except for the (Score:1 Trolling)
Rabbit21
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Every team except for the other academies is bigger than Air Force. I admit the defense will have a tough time, but this whole "Ermahgerd the defensive line will DERMINATE!" is a false expectation. The way Air Force runs the triple option mitigates the size disadvantage. Oh and as far as evidence, last year was a bad year in which the team didn't play to expectations but check previous years and wins over Notre Dame, Georgia Tech and close games against Tennessee and OU. Again, based off what I saw yesterday Michigan's defense looks vulnerable to Air Force's strengths and y'all shouldn't be shocked by a shootout.

Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.  It always defeats order because it is better organized. 

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September 2nd, 2012 at 1:32 PM | Also the reasons everyone (Score:2 Normal)
Rabbit21
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Also the reasons everyone doesn't run the triple option are many, but for starters 1. It limits your gameplan(for example 3rd and long seems more problematic than in other offenses) 2. It requires total commitment to run it correctly. 3. There is a extremely low margin for error and consequences of errors are multiplied. Frankly running a triple option is an admission your offensive options are limited, but if run correctly it can be an effective weapon. Finally it's relatively easy to stop, but your linebackers have to hold the edge and aggressively make the right reads and your defensive line needs to penetrate to screw up the rush lanes. After last night I'm not convinced that's in M's wheelhouse right now and that makes them vulnerable no matter the size advantage.

Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.  It always defeats order because it is better organized. 

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September 2nd, 2012 at 3:47 PM | Go watch the game they played (Score:1)
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Go watch the game they played against Oklahoma in 2010.

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.

- Vince Lombardi

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September 2nd, 2012 at 11:59 AM | Hoke will have the boys ready (Score:2)
yoopergoblue
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Hoke will have the boys ready to play on Saturday.  He won't let them dwell on this game too much and I expect to see them flying to the football on D.  We can afford to sit Countess and Lewan if needed for a few weeks to heal-up.

"They will meet a dastardly fate here for that! There isn't a Michigan Man who wouldn't like go out and scalp those Buckeyes right now."

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September 2nd, 2012 at 1:28 PM | Agreed (Score:2)
WolvinOhio
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I don't think that this loss is as demoralizing as, say, App St. That loss led to the Oregon St. loss the next week and pretty much trashed the season. I think Kovacs will have the D up with their heads on straight for next week.

I promise you'll not see another game like that from us again. - Craig Roh

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September 2nd, 2012 at 3:25 PM | Lost to Oregon not Oregon st (Score:2)
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Lost to Oregon not Oregon st

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler

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September 2nd, 2012 at 12:00 PM | Fitz watched last night's (Score:2)
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Fitz watched last night's stinker on TV and must have realized he's not losing his starting job.  He needs to be our leading rusher by the end of the 1st quarter next week, unless Denard happens to go apeshit early on Air Force.

"I don't see how having someone piss on my face is going to help me sell Lou Ferrigno's house."

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September 2nd, 2012 at 12:09 PM | IM going to the game on (Score:2)
SheridanForHeisman
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IM going to the game on saturday, we better be fucking loud and beat the dog outta Air Force.

If you don't like Michigan you are a peasant

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September 2nd, 2012 at 12:26 PM | Air Force is not what the (Score:1)
M-Dog
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Air Force is not what the Doctor ordered here.  The team will have a post-beatdown hangover and AF is not the team you want to play when your run D has some kinks to be worked out.  

This will not be a cakewalk.  Don't freak out when that becomes apparent.  We'll need to earn this win, not just show up angry.

   

M'Dog

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September 2nd, 2012 at 4:43 PM | I was just thinking this (Score:1)
Jeff09
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I was just thinking this myself.  This is the type of team that will hang around and frustrate an athletically superior opponent.  Given we've been focusing on 'Bama all offseason and have a week to scout out a funky offense, it's likely they put up a few points in the first half and make it a game, before we clamp down and start to pull away in the 3rd/4th.  I would much much rather have the UMASS matchup this week...

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