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After 24 hours of "digesting"

I decided to try and let this settle a bit before bringing this up. But I think we all pretty much felt the same way when we woke up yesterday. A pounding headache (from the excessive liquids) and a lot of "why??" I know this game was "great for the program" blah blah blah, but I just don't see how.

What I have seen is, our best corner is done for the year, who knows how bad Lewan's injury is, a QB that probably wont be able to practice this week because most of his time will be in the ice tub, and I'm sure theres plenty more. Numerous tweets from recruits and targets, although most are positive there was one that tweeted "Roll Tide"

I don't know that there is a team in the nation that can beat Bama, but when you give a team like Bama that much time.......things will get real ugly, as we saw. But the thing that I am just having a tough time with is WTF was Brandon thinking? How is having your coach in his 2nd year (pretty much rebuilding still) put a team on the field and get flat out waxed, how is that helping the program? I could go on and on about Brandons decisions, but the bottom line is, we had this game in Jerry world because I think Brandon idolizes Jerry, and thats what he wants the "Michigan brand" to be like.

Michigan would be better off without Brandon, I dont care what anybody says. The guy see's dollar signs and does not care about winning, tradition or anything tha Michigan is.

GRwolverine73

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September 3rd, 2012 at 8:32 AM | Once again, (Score:0 Normal)
September 3rd, 2012 at 8:50 AM | Game was announced in August of 2010 (Score:2 Normal)
trueblue262
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Brandon was appointed in Jan 2010, are you telling me DB had nothing to do with this game?

GRwolverine73

September 3rd, 2012 at 9:54 AM | Alabama game (Score:4 Normal)
EGD
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I think the OP's comments about Brandon are a bit over-the-top, but Brandon did schedule the game.  The game was first disclosed to the public in a paywalled Scout article on or about August 5, 2010, which was discussed in this thread: http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/michigan-vs-alabama-2012-cowboy-stadium

Brandon, who was appointed on January 5, 2010, had been AD for seven months by that time.

"You will suffer humiliation when the team from my area defeats the team from your area." -- The Onion

September 3rd, 2012 at 12:42 PM | Contract signed in October of 2010 (Score:2)
befuggled
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Freep link.

Until the contract is signed, the game is not scheduled.

Where's Charlie Bauman when you need him?

September 3rd, 2012 at 8:34 AM | When we scheduled Bama, Rich (Score:5 Normal)
chunkums
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When we scheduled Bama, Rich Rod was still the coach.  We were expecting year five, and a national power.  All this hand wringing directed towards Brandon is getting really really old.  For years, people on this site bitched about playing nobodies in the nonconference games, and now people are crying about it because we lost.

For today, goodbye. For tomorrow, good luck. And forever, Go Blue.

September 3rd, 2012 at 9:31 AM | Amen, to be the best you have (Score:2 Normal)
cjffemt
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Amen, to be the best you have to play the best.  I am not happy we were dessimated on the field.  However, I have been an advocate to play a tougher schedule for years.  I am tired of the MAC schools and low level Mid Major's.  It is time we schedule games like this year in and year out.  No offense to ND, but they lost their National prominence when Douche Bag Holtz retired.  I still love the rivalry, but thye do not give us the strenghth of schedule that a Bama, LSU or anyother SEC team will give us.  I am a winner and a competitor through and through, we all hate to lose, but I will take a lose like this, learn from it and move on.  We now know where we are deficient and can make the necessary corrections to improve as a team and program.

September 3rd, 2012 at 9:46 AM | decimated (Score:-1 Flamebait)
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:35 AM | Thank you! (Score:2 Normal)
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I can't understand for the life of me people are acting like this was scheduled last year. This was scheduled years in advance. Would this game have been a bad idea if the results were slightly different? I'm just confused why everybody is crying? It's done with. Air Force is next now let's focus our energy on that.

Marcus Ray is my mentor

September 3rd, 2012 at 10:22 AM | Not me... (Score:-1 Overrated)
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:27 AM | Thank you!! (Score:-1 Overrated)
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:42 AM | You might want to get yourself checked out. (Score:5 Normal)
OMG Shirtless
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Agreeing with Tater is the first sign of mental illness.

I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

September 3rd, 2012 at 10:52 AM | You're right. This game was (Score:5 Normal)
Lionsfan
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You're right. This game was so bad, that everyone is the polls is going to remember it. Even if we go 13-1, everyone will be like "Well look at that 1 loss, Michigan is not a Top-25 team".

Just like last year with Oregon. They got beat by a strong LSU team, then completely fell out of the polls right?

If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?

StraightDave owes me a steak dinner

September 3rd, 2012 at 11:21 AM | The formula? (Score:4 Normal)
mgoblueaustin
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The forumla?  Serious games?

In 2009 Alabama played VT to start the year, in 2010 Auburn played Clemson out of conference, in 2011 Alabama played Penn State (and #2 LSU played Oregon).  Its way too early but if Bama ends up winning the MNC again this year they scheduled us.  Those are probably a bit more prestigeous than "semi-serious games".

Whether or not anyone wants to admit it Saturday's game was a huge showcase for UM football.  We may have shit the bed in this instance, but don't act like we need to shy away from tough competetion.  I agree that playing Alabama in a home and home would have been so much more attractive, but you don't just pass these oppurtunities up.  You have to beat great teams if you want to win the ultimate prize.  

You sound like you're from London

September 3rd, 2012 at 8:37 AM | Just gonna say (Score:1 Normal)
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I thought this was scheduled before Brandon....can we get confirmation so that people can stop posting the same crap and throwing blame on Brandon who has done a helluva job? Tis was supposed to be that one guys 5th year as coach...the transition was supposed to be over and we should have been ready. Low and behold that one coach failed miserably and we had little to no depth, this was not Brandon's fault...this is Michigan...why shouldn't we schedule the best?

Denard Robinson......They're not going to catch him!

September 3rd, 2012 at 9:44 AM | lo (Score:0 Normal)
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:55 AM | Brandon scheduled the (Score:2)
Lionsfan
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Brandon scheduled the game.

He was hired in January, http://www.annarbor.com/news/david-brandon-hired-as-university-of-michig..., and the game was set up over the summer and announced in October, http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/101410aaa.html

If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?

StraightDave owes me a steak dinner

September 3rd, 2012 at 8:39 AM | Digesting... (Score:2)
VAWolverine
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Catch me tomorrow on this... still taking Prilosec.

Know one thing though- would rather play and lose to Bama game one than Appy State.

September 3rd, 2012 at 8:39 AM | You want to win a MNC? (Score:5 Normal)
leu2500
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You just found out how far you have to go. 

 

 

September 3rd, 2012 at 8:42 AM | This is painful, but also (Score:4 Normal)
chunkums
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This is painful, but also true.  Living within the recent mediocrity of the B1G can blind us to that.

For today, goodbye. For tomorrow, good luck. And forever, Go Blue.

September 3rd, 2012 at 8:47 AM | The only thing we can blame (Score:1 Normal)
Eve_of_TheRivalry
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The only thing we can blame DB for are those heinous uniforms...they looked like pajamas.

To Hell with Notre Dame

September 3rd, 2012 at 9:15 AM | my memory (Score:3 Normal)
MSHOT92
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of MICHIGAN FOOTBALL as a kid, we played Colorado, Florida State, Miami in FLORIDA not southern ohio, Boston College, UCLA, Oregon, and on and on...and in 1997 we won a national championship. We actually and sadly lost to a number of the teams mentioned on that list but we built a better football program. During the Carr era, we squared off against a pile of creampuffs and STILL lost to the likes of Appalachian State and Toledo. You want to be the best, you need to measure yourself against the best. Injury happens, doesn't matter if it is bama or Iowa. Game on, step up, wipe the blood from your nose and get some.

September 3rd, 2012 at 9:28 AM | Yes, of course we should (Score:5 Normal)
Princetonwolverine
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Yes, of course we should blame Carr for the loss to Toledo even though he retired the previous year.

September 3rd, 2012 at 9:48 AM | I agree with your sentiment (Score:2 Normal)
maizenbluenc
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( though someone will nit you on Toledo, Rich lost to them, while misusing or having run off Lloyd's guys ... /s ).

The cream puffs started when we went to more games in the money grub. As I recall Carr didn't want to add a 12th game (added risk of injury to his players, etc.) Add to that the ability to schedule cream puffs at home only, and the $$$ start rolling. And then Notre Dame became a cream puff for a while there too.

In the 80's we always had two major conference (or ND) non conference games and then the B1G slate. In '84 we beat Miami (YTM) before Jim harbaugh was injured and we went 6-6. We always had a Pac-10, ACC, SEC, or Big East (when Miami and BC were there) opponent at home, and one away, and ND would come on and off our schedule.

Somewhere in there, ND became a fixture, and the other games became the bottom of the other conferences, and then the MAC, and all the way "down" to App State and the UMass's of the world.

The stupid thing is, this was done for more money. I can understand a MAC school for a pre-season warm up, and maybe one other, but who wouldn't pay more for their season tickets if we had two semi-marquis or better match-ups in our non-conference schedule? You can't tell me it is not possible to set up alternate home and home schedules (ND home one year, while the other opponent is away, and visa-verse), and make up for the lost cupcake revenue of one game every other year through an increase in ticket cost for games that people actually want to see.

Anyway, back then, when going undefeated was the only path the the AP or Coaches Poll National Championship, losses in those pre-season games, especially the first one out of the box were devastating, and Notre Dame was a particular thorn in our side.

Anyway, yeah, step it up men!

[Link to former schedules FWIW.]

September 3rd, 2012 at 8:42 AM | Cause in 2010 Brandon could (Score:2 Normal)
Professor X
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Cause in 2010 Brandon could have seen this coming. He is not a freaking precog.

September 3rd, 2012 at 8:44 AM | Better off without Brandon? (Score:5 Normal)
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Better off without Brandon?  I guess you didn't attend UTL?  How about the Big Chill or those high def scoreboards, etc. etc.  Is Brandon perfect?  Hell no, but I for one applaud what he is trying to do and so far, he seems to be doing it very well. 

The problem Saturday night wasn't Brandon, it was the harsh reality that was brought home that Michigan, as a program, still has a long way to go.  Give this program a few more years and I suspect you will find a very different talent level.

September 3rd, 2012 at 8:49 AM | Brandion has been absolutely (Score:5 Normal)
chunkums
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Brandon has been absolutely awesome. Period.  People bitch and bitch about how he loves his money, but I don't hear any complaints about the new NCAA sport, or any of the upgrades to any facilities.  These things cost money.  We can't have all the nice things if we don't raise the $ to go with them.

For today, goodbye. For tomorrow, good luck. And forever, Go Blue.

September 3rd, 2012 at 8:46 AM | Yep digesting. Usually the (Score:5 Normal)
Professor X
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Yep digesting. Usually the endpoint of digesting, you shit out a brown turd. Exactly describes this post.

September 3rd, 2012 at 8:53 AM | I suppose (Score:5 Normal)
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The original poster wants Martin back cause it was all perfect then.

- Dutch

September 3rd, 2012 at 8:58 AM | Ironically enough..... (Score:-1 Flamebait)
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:40 AM | And letting a cancer of (Score:1 Normal)
Professor X
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And letting a cancer of nepotism develop that led to the backstabbing under rich rod.

September 3rd, 2012 at 8:53 AM | Why is there so much (Score:5 Normal)
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Why is there so much complaining on this board?  Alabama beat us and we will be better.  Injuries happen, so let us stop crying over every bad thing that happen on Saturday.  Coach Hoke did not make any excuses and neither should we. 

September 3rd, 2012 at 9:37 AM | second this.  (Score:1 Normal)
mgoback
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second this. 

September 3rd, 2012 at 8:54 AM | One thing is for sure... (Score:2 Normal)
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M knows what it will take to compete for a NC, and how much work needs to be put in. Games like that turns boys into men. I think everyone will be supremely impressed with how this team rebounds from this.

September 3rd, 2012 at 8:54 AM | Get a grip (Score:5 Normal)
goblueva
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It was a loss!! One loss!! Our program isn't going to be removed from the big 10, the stadium isn't being closed and guess what..... The sun still came up today over the Eastern sky.

Negativity of the fan base is mind blowing. Have faith the coaches will coach 'em up this week, they come out prepared and beat Air Force!

Go Blue!!!

"Some people say soccer is America's sport. I say 'BULLSHIT"!! Football's America's sport!"- Bo Schembechler, Football Camp 1995

September 3rd, 2012 at 9:00 AM | Actually (Score:-1 Flamebait)
September 3rd, 2012 at 8:54 AM | Wow (Score:2 Normal)
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There are some fantastic posts this morning, keep up the good work!

It's tough being Blue in Columbus!!!

September 3rd, 2012 at 9:29 AM | After 24 hours of digesting, (Score:3 Normal)
Naked Bootlegger
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After 24 hours of digesting, didn't we have the obligtary "Y U DO THIS TO US DAVE BRANDON" thread yesterday?  

If Dave Brandon "caring about winning" is code wording for being allergic to scheduling premiere non-conf games in the coming years, then I completely disagree.   Gimme a 'Bama-type game every few years, and I'm a happy man.  (Granted, the ND game used to be the automatic premiere game in the late '80's-early 90's, but I won't count it as such until both our squads regain national relevance. )

I think Brian needs to post MOAR KITTENS today to keep everyone from jumping off the cliff.

September 3rd, 2012 at 10:10 AM | i would like to see (Score:3 Normal)
teldar
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About 2/3 of the denizens of this blog jump off a cliff since this game.
'Waahhhhhhh, we played maybe the best team in the country and got curb stomped when we have little little talent and no high quality backups due to spotty recruiting and epic attrition.'
'Waaaahhhhhh, Dave Brandon is an asshole who hates the university and the football program because he planned for us to get curb stomped.'

There are a ton of people around here who are butthurt for no good reason. They need to man up and think logically about the state of the program and what db has done for the athletic department.

Wasting away in Ohio, a Wolverine in a sea of red and grey

September 3rd, 2012 at 12:47 PM | ^. (Score:1 Trolling)
Naked Bootlegger
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September 3rd, 2012 at 8:58 AM | (No subject) (Score:5 Normal)
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Harvard: The MICHIGAN of the East

We're not arrogant, we're just better.

September 3rd, 2012 at 9:01 AM | Herp? (Score:1)
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Oh no, definitely derp...

Omnes i facere est vincere 
September 3rd, 2012 at 9:03 AM | WE LOST TO A GOOD TEAM (Score:3 Normal)
Raback Omaba
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We lost to a Good team, possibly the best in the country.....

 

Get over it. We will win some games, and we will lose some games. Brady Hoke will get this program where we will compete with Alabama.

 

Right now, they are way ahead of us.

September 3rd, 2012 at 9:07 AM | It took you 24 hours to come (Score:5 Normal)
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It took you 24 hours to come up with this shit?  A bunch of drunk fuks came up with the same nonsense 30 seconds after the game had ended.  What took so long?

Yes I got him a gift. He had a kidney stone. You piss a rock through your pecker, you deserve more than just a pat on the fucking back.

September 3rd, 2012 at 9:55 AM | "When you give a team like Bama so much time. . ." (Score:-1 Flamebait)
September 3rd, 2012 at 11:37 AM | Hey I tipped you $3 for the (Score:4 Normal)
Professor X
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Hey I tipped you $3 for the pizza now step off bitch.

September 3rd, 2012 at 9:16 AM | I was ok, until (Score:1)
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http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120902/SPORTS0202/209020346



This. I want to absolutely demolish Sparty this year.

September 3rd, 2012 at 9:31 AM | The biggest problem I am having (Score:0 Overrated)
September 3rd, 2012 at 10:22 AM | really? (Score:1 Normal)
teldar
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National respect wins games?
I would have thought recruiting, development, and coaching wins games. You don't think a 3-9 season or an even worse curb stomping in a bowl game to a mediocre team damaged national cachet?
The only thing that matters on a yearly basis is being good teams. Most of us knew Michigan's team has less overall talent and less depth than last year (not including true freshmen) than last year.

This crying and whining is already overdone.

Move on.

Grow up.

Look at reality. This was never going to be an elite team this year. It won't be for at least 3 years. Deal with it.

Wasting away in Ohio, a Wolverine in a sea of red and grey

September 3rd, 2012 at 10:32 AM | UM will be elite in two years (Score:1)
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Maybe even next year if Bellomy develops rapidly.

"The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Urban Meyer!"

September 3rd, 2012 at 3:18 PM | if (Score:0 Offtopic)
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