I thought you said you were talking to Michigan fans.
Advice: How do you deal with fellow irrational Michigan fans?
re-reading it alot of the stuff said is what stupid MSU fans say all the time...
To extrapolate, how do you deal with other UM fans who say ass holish things to visiting fans and otherwise? I've heard stories of some pretty ass holish UM fans, and I would much prefer if our fanbase rose above the stupid bullshit like spitting on opposing bands, but I've heard it's happened. How do we deal with those people?
Hey, act like a Michigan fan, not like you came from Columbus. Show some class befitting the program.
True. The most irrational "Michigan fan" there didn't even watch the SDSU game, but felt as if he could comment on it since he heard the post game on the radio.
The fuck is he talking about?! This whole post made my head hurt.
I usually just laugh and explain to them that they are wrong, but most of the people who say that shit arent smart enough to understand what im saying. They are just bandwagon in for the ride type fans that take everything they hear on TV and 97.1 literally.
What dumbasses. Michigan blew out indiana in 2000 by the same score as yesterday and shut ND out 38-0 twice in Carr's tenure. The guys saying this probably still wear the all in shirts, wanted rich rod to stay and RAWK OUT to pop evil.
Yep everything Lloyd did was bad. What about the fact that he brought Michigan their first national championship in 49 years? I'm sure I'd still here some lame rebuttal.
Those guys probably had a few beverages before they said all that. They sound like the kind that if you asked them how many B1G championships Michigan has, they'd have to look it up to find out.
Don't hate on my All In shirt! True, I usually wear it inside out, but it's still maize!
And I'll raise you the "May the Forcier Be with You" t-shirt I wear when I go running AND the Gator Bowl sweatshirt I wear to help people move. We lead the nation in ironic apparel.
I also own a 2008 shirt. As a rule I wear it inside out with the Adidas logo in the front. It puts a backwards "GO BLUE" on my chest and looks sort of cool compared to a normal 2008 shirt of doom.
Y U have such stoopid friends?
Not my friends. First time I had ever seen 2 of the 3 guys.
then let it be the last time aswell
I would have left.
Make them watch this:
Then tell them their argument is invalid.
Zone out. You can never win with people that stupid.
for obvious reasons.
I thought your title was about "irrational" fans. Those are called "stupid" fans.
Move to the UP!
I would probably laugh. If heavily outnumbered retreat to the kitchen before laughing. Then I would borrow one of their beers since they'd obviously had plenty and wouldn't notice or care :-)
Long term will be tougher. I would define your positions early on: Denard is a QB and will stay there for the rest of his Michigan career; Carr helped cement Michigan's reputation as a fine school for producing NFL quarterbacks; our RBs have been producing 100-yard games consistently thus far in the season (this may change, obviously); and Mike Martin is solid. Then, when their irrational rambling conflicts with one of these data points, you can cite point X from the above list, and say "Your argument is invalid."
I would probably just go get something to eat if it was at a tailgate personally..
They sound like fans of a couple of other schools in the conference. I have more than a sneaking suspicion that I know what radio station they listen to. I hope these are not close friends. If so, you have my sympathies. Also, Mattison is very worried one of them will take his job over his bad personnel decisions.
All you can do is hope they don't breed.
with a lot of the above comments.
In general, there's no convincing folks like this of much of anything and it isn't worth the bother. Laugh politely and then change the subject. Odds are, if they have been drinking, they'll keep wanting to talk football. Bring up some other team (Miami, OSU, USC are easy targets) or try to shift to another sport. When all else fails, answer your cell phone and walk away.
Sorry you have to deal with dumb people...
same strategy i adopt for dealing with large groups of absolutely classless undergrads i've encountered the past few years.
I've heard a michigan fan say any of this...
just slap them around a little bit.
I feel for you. I live and work in Cleveland and have to deal with this level of ignorance at work on a daily basis. It's almost too much.
Debating stupidity is a fool's errand. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
I clicked this thread expecting to read that there were Michigan fans who were irrationally buying into the #11/#12 national ranking.
As for the 'fans' the OP described...guessing they aren't enjoying life very much if they are upset that Lloyd let 3rd stringers get a series in a big win after they'd given 4 years of their lives to Michigan football with no recognition.
I find that when I'm in a situation where I don't want to lose emotional control but on the other hand do not want to cede anything I just say, "We agree to disagree." After everything else I just shrug.
However, a flaw of mine is when someone says something factually wrong, I can't help correcting them.
There are a lot of Michigan fans, so odds are, a lot of them are going to be dumb.
In the face of that kind of stupidity, I think I'd just use another four magic words, "shut the fuck up." That's me, though. I can't stand how anyone could be so down on Denard. All the guy does is cause Notre Dame tears, cure sick puppies with his smile and bring nothing but good press to Michigan.
dont forget responding to little kid's letters! that alone shows he is a true class act
tell them to just come out of the closet already...its 2011!!
FYI...I would void it. These kinds of fans have confidence issues, and still need a hug from their father and a pat on the butt from their HS coaches...
Get my drift?@?@
Only 9) was 100% BS? I call BS on that. It's pretty obvious they aren't Michigan fans. Thery're just repeating crap they heard from Mike Valenti and other Sparties. Alhough to be fair, not many of them are ignorant enough to call our QB Benard.
Sounds like you got trolled.
people who don't believe in evolution. If you are going to come at me that stupid, I'm not going to even respond. Getting your point across could cause their heads to explode, and that's messy.
,,,I can make you believe any lie
I can make you pick a fight
with somebody twice your size
(just a hunch here)
Are you sure these guys are Michigan fans?
I have encountered morons like this from time to time. These are guys who feel the need to have a strong opinion even if they have no info to back their ridiculous stances. You will never win in an argument because they are too ignorant to understand that they are wrong or have been defeated by a well thought out argument. Your only choice to keep your sanity is walk away and hang out with the women. Their conversations will be annoying as well but at least you will not be expected to produce an opinion on the things they talk about i.e. purses, shopping, reality tv, etc. Just smile and nod and the women will think you are a nice guy. The morons may think you are a loser which means you have already won.
You tell these guys to call Valenti/Foster so Valenti can have a field day with them.
...That's what they do, right? I had always assumed.
Valenti and Foster...
They seem more like the "Oh what game is on this channel?" crowd.
what do you want from the guy?? he's been dominant each of the last two seasons. tell them to read some UFR's for pete's sake
2) If they can read, there is no chance that they know what UFR is.
if he has seen his doctor recently and that his doctor should probably increase the dose of his anti psychotic medications. Then I would offer him a place to lay down to help him deal with the voices in his head.
And tell your wife to get smarter friends.
What do you say to all the irrational fans on this blog that think Michigan is going to the big ten title game. I mean seriously, we are improved but still a long ways away.
and even I am starting to think this may be possible. It may be us versus the Russel Wilson Juggernaut.
Granted, NW, MSU, Iowa, Illinois, Nebraska, and OSU each at times have looked like they can beat us (in some cases) easily if we play like we did the first three weeks. But then each of them have also looked pretty beatable if we put a full game together.
We'll get a good look defense wise this Saturday, and a better one offensively next Saturday.
Sounds like a fair weather fan that only pays attention when the team is winning. And intentionally missing WRs? Really?! You need to find new friends to talk UM with, because if you keep doing it with him, your walls will be obliterated after you force your head through them.
Man, that took way to long to get to work. Straight embedding didn't work for some reason.
they're probably subscribed to RCMB
Don't argue with an idiot... He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. Just try and maintain "If I agree with you, we would both be wrong" and call it good.
I find myself regularly referring to our starting QB as Denard Robinson Jr.
Maybe those retards in the kitchen were among the seven other people in Crisler Arena back when Bernard Robinson used to lock fools down on defense for the Michigan B-Ball team (in addition to being the buffest dude on the planet).
Probably not though.
BR Jr. was always my favorite back in the day. He could look so out of control and so smooth all at the same time....it's tough to explain.
It tends to work.
Next time they say something stupid, respond with an even more stupid remark yourself but really jack it up in volume and to the 100th power of stupidity.
"Yeah that's all well and good, but everyone knows that what Denard Robinson really wants to do is play weak side linebacker!"
Sometimes being an asshole serves a purpose. Even for a few minutes. At that point you're just a mirror.
Last year my friends wife was at work trying to fit in with the guys. She had heard her husband mention firing Robinson over and over....so she pipes in that Michigan needs to fire Denard. They asked her why Denard and she made up some explaination.
She told her husband about it later that day and he explained how he was referring to a different Robinson and she was mortified.
Just my two cents on one of the points up there. Just because you blow out an opponent doesn't mean that you're good. Typically it means that the opponent is way overmatched and at some point you have to put the 2nd and 3rd String teams in. The frustrating thing about Lloyd was that it seemed like sometimes those teams found a way back into the game.
You can't rationalize with an irrational person.
2011 ND...the promise of the Hoke era...the Big House on gameday...
but I'd wouldn't ever say that Henson "didn't do much of anything".
I am assuming that these were irrational Michigan fans who also know nothing about football or indeed have paid attention to a single game of it. How do I handle such situations? Shake my head, tell them that storied programs should have classier fans, and walk away. This is, after all, Michigan.
Those are Michigan fans? Wow,I hate hearing stories of ignorant Michigan fans...If they are that ignorant and misinformed there is nothing you can say..Just let the play speak for itself...
- That is 100% pure colombian stupid.
- You have been trolled.
1, 7 and 9 are particularly good. 2 makes me think you've been trolled.
the same things from not too bright fans. On personnel issues, I usually shut them up by saying: The coaches see these guys every day in practice and know what they can do, we don't.
Hand them some lighter fluid and tell them there is a couch on the front porch. Problem solved.
That is all.
Although here in mid Michigan farm country, I hate to say that it is the Spartans. Saturday, one says to me, "Are all of your games at home this year?"
1. Refuse to go back to your wife's friends house.
2. If your wife pitches a fit over that, divorce your wife.
I go on this board and try to talk sense into them and then become the most hated.
It's not all bad.
lol as a yooper, I'll see your idiotic M fan, and raise you thousands of ignorant State fans.