According to reports, Casteel to remain DC at WV next year (and possibly beyond)
It appears that Bill Stewart will remain as coach as WV next year, with the OK State OC coming in as WV's OC next year and taking over in 2012. This affects us because Casteel will remain the DC, and with the Holgorsen working one year as the OC first, I'd be surprised if Casteel isn't retained as the DC in 2012.
http://www.wvgazette.com/latest/201012140659
This is unconfirmed, but of course so were the rumors of Stewart retiring this year. Once this is confirmed, I hope it puts the rumors or clamoring for Casteel here to rest.
December 14th, 2010 at 2:06 PM ^
Did you read the UV post on the front page?
December 14th, 2010 at 2:10 PM ^
Damn, I checked the board and the Bill Stewart thread. My apologies, mods feel free to delete.
December 14th, 2010 at 2:13 PM ^
December 14th, 2010 at 2:06 PM ^
Thank you for ruining my day and crushing my hope.
December 14th, 2010 at 2:14 PM ^
Okay now that Option #1 (and really.. 2 and 3) is gone, who are the candidates for DC next year?
December 14th, 2010 at 2:18 PM ^
Does RR have a brother that is a head coach in the NFL and can give us a position coach to be the new DC? I hear thats the best way to improve your defense in 1 year.
December 14th, 2010 at 2:18 PM ^
Jim Harbaugh
December 14th, 2010 at 2:42 PM ^
maybe they're looking to distance themselves from the drug cartel scandal.
December 14th, 2010 at 2:25 PM ^
That means nothing. All it takes is a cool $1 million dollar contract to pull him away from WV.
December 14th, 2010 at 2:54 PM ^
Does anyone know how much we offered him originally (when RR was hired) or 2 years ago (when Gerg was ultimately hired)? I'm sure Casteel, like everyone, has an amount that he just couldn't turn down, but he seems extremely hesitant to relocate.
December 14th, 2010 at 6:26 PM ^
Has anyone ever heard Casteel say or heard any type of rumor that he would like to work for RR again? He has had two chances to climb on board, when RR was first hired and a year later when Shafer was fired. If he was going to come he would have been here by now.
Money may help get him, but I doubt it. Working under RR as a DC is not a prime job opportunity for an established name, even if it is Michigan. Three years and he will have gone through two DC's. Job security is a factor for these guys and with RR's track record and precarious position as HC the line is not long for potential new hires. He has made two new hires on D- a grad asst, and a guy out of work and desparate for a job.
December 14th, 2010 at 2:31 PM ^
I can see the Hello: Jim Harbaugh post much better now. The writing is on the wall people. It's only a matter of time.
December 14th, 2010 at 5:10 PM ^
To preface this, I'm not convinced one way or the other and while I'd prefer RR to get another year, I can certainly understand someone taking a contrary position.
That being said, how in the hell do reports that Casteel will stay at WVU for at least another year somehow doom RR at Michigan? The fact that he's staying isn't "writing on the wall", you're just interpreting an unrelated event in a manner that's consistent with what you already decided what should happen.
December 14th, 2010 at 5:29 PM ^
“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft; on the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing.”
- Coach Schembechler
December 14th, 2010 at 2:44 PM ^
Once this is confirmed, I hope it puts the rumors or clamoring for Casteel here to rest.
Because that is worse than a bunch of people clamoring for an arrogant dick bag who ran the university through the mud? Interesting...
December 14th, 2010 at 2:48 PM ^
it's weird to me that the people who cry character assassination when Rich Rod gets another shitty editorial wiped on him are the same people who call Harbaugh subhuman garbage
December 14th, 2010 at 3:02 PM ^
It is weird. Harbaugh is a scumbag. I say this because I don't want to fire an offensive mastermind who has never played a second year QB for Michigan. I would also like a 5 star world beater runningback to play alongside our Heisman calibur first year QB going into his second year where he will likely be favored to win the award. These are just a couple reasons why Harbaugh loves Satan and has killed baby pigs for fun.
December 14th, 2010 at 3:34 PM ^
the 5 star running back? He's only four stars rabble rabble rabble!
Just keeeeeeeeding!
December 14th, 2010 at 4:57 PM ^
It is weird. Harbaugh is a scumbag. I say this because I don't want to fire an offensive mastermind who has never played a second year QB for Michigan.
It's worth noting that Harbaugh's team averaged six more points per game than we did - and he, too, had a sophomore QB. Last year, when each coach had a freshman QB, Harbaugh's team also averaged more points per game than we did. Harbaugh's not exactly a slouch when it comes to the offensive side of the ball (not to mention the other two phases of the game).
December 14th, 2010 at 6:57 PM ^
Ya but that quarterback is also andrew luck
December 14th, 2010 at 7:01 PM ^
I think JH is a really good coach as is RR. Isn't Luck a redshirt soph, so technically he has been learning the system for 3 years while playing on field only 2. Denard has been in system 2 years. So, Luck has a year on Denard in terms of running the system and it shows. So, I expect JH to have a better offense. It doesn't hurt to have a Heisman finalist in the backfield as well last year to take some pressure off the redshirt freshman.
December 14th, 2010 at 7:35 PM ^
Andrew Luck is a redshirt sophomore and Denard is a true sophomore. Luck has had 3 years in Harbaugh's system, while Denard has only had 2 years in RR's system. If you're going to compare QB class and PPG, it's probably more fair to look at Stanford's team from last year vs. Michigan's team from this year.
I'm not trying to defend RR or attack Harbaugh. I actually like both coaches and I really believe that Michigan will become a contender again in the near future with either of them. I've watched a lot of Stanford games over the last 2 years and I've been impressed with Harbaugh's offense. I also think Andrew Luck is an excellent QB and I'm a big fan of the way he plays. I just think that comparing Luck and Denard as sophomore vs. sophomore is an unfair comparison.
December 14th, 2010 at 3:22 PM ^
First, you are assuming the group crying character assassination re: RR in the media are in the same group calling Harbaugh names. Not necessarily true.
Second, when RR has gotten pwned in the press it has largely been for things that most people would consider petty, stupid, or easily disproven. The things RR did that he has been attacked for (leave WV early, be somehow involved in an investment scam or something) are not things that people are up in arms about re: Harbaugh. I doubt anyone would care if Harbaugh left Stanford early to coach here or had buyout issues or whatever. RR was also attacked for lacking family values, which is idiotic and easily disproven. In other words, RR has faced classic character assassination.
Finally, the things people are up in arms about re: Harbaugh are more or less facts that a person can choose to be upset about or not. It's not character assassination to bring up Harbaugh's DUI, golden bathroom, going for 2, faking injuries, negative comments about UM after Bo died, etc. - these are things that actually happened and reasonable people can conclude that they do not like him based on these things.
December 14th, 2010 at 3:43 PM ^
First, you are assuming the group crying character assassination re: RR in the media are in the same group calling Harbaugh names. Not necessarily true.
I see. It's just you and everyone else.
RR has faced classic character assassination
It's not character assassination to bring up Harbaugh's DUI
lol. ok. Disliking Harbaugh = reasonable, prudent, conclusive. Disliking Rich Rod = petty, stupid, idiotic, easily disproven. I like Rich Rodriguez and I need no proof that he is a good man. Brock Mealer is evidence enough for me. But to claim that this board objectively illuminates Harbaugh as a man overflowing with shortcomings while Rich Rodriguez is a paragon of virtue is hypocritical, frustrating, and willfully ignorant. Rich Rod is a nice man and he deserves to be liked. And If you dislike Harbaugh, fine. You dislike him. I'm sure there are plenty of good reasons. But I'm tired of people mocking him under a veil of false objectivity.
December 14th, 2010 at 4:34 PM ^
- re: "you and everyone else" - that's where the fallacy was. I've never made a post complaining about the media and RR and all that stuff. The only posts I've made on that topic are for people to stop complaining and to stop reading/listening if they don't like it. So, no.
- Also, please explain to me how in the hell bringing up an adult's criminal record is suddenly "character assassination." Or disliking the way he conducts himself in games. Your blanket statement about how I or others could not be objective when assessing OBJECTIVE character issues with RR is complete bullshit. If RR got a DUI or did any of the things I listed that Harbaugh has done, I would like RR less. I apply the same standards to everyone.
- People can feel free to dislike RR for things too, like how he yells at players or something. That's fine. That sort of thing does not bother me. And I apply the same standards to Harbaugh - I have 0 problem with him getting in a players face when necessary. And so on.
Consider the possibility that someone could objectively look at both coaches and like one and dislike the other, based on belief systems and certain values placed on different things. It's not hard.
December 14th, 2010 at 4:45 PM ^
Given that the DUI arrest happened several years ago, and that Harbaugh has stated that he's since given up drinking entirely, exactly what purpose does it serve to bring it up, other than to attack Harbaugh's character?
December 14th, 2010 at 4:59 PM ^
I view as important and demonstrates a lack of character? It also shows poor judgment. These are qualities I view as important in a head coach. I also believe in redemption and rehabilitation, so good for him for stopping.
It's not an auto-ding for me but it is a strike against him, IMO. All else equal (yes, I know it's not) I'd rather have a coach without a DUI than one with a DUI. Reasonable people can differ. Why is this hard to understand?
FWIW, some of the other qualities I mentioned (particularly some of his game time decisions and lack of sportsmanship issues) are FAR more troublesome to me. Again, reasonable minds could differ and some may prefer a guy that "goes for the throat" or "does whatever it takes to win" or whatever. I'm not one of those people.
December 14th, 2010 at 5:38 PM ^
It's not hard to understand. Here is my position.
The conclusion of the 2010 season yielded a clear and violent division between Michigan fans, culminating in respective militant wings of Rodriguez and Harbaugh support. Since that time it has been established on this blog and elsewhere that there is a nonzero chance Rich Rodriguez will be fired shortly and that his most likely replacement is Jim Harbaugh.
I realize that the vocal support for Rich Rod on this blog is based partially upon a collective desire to maintain staff continuity. Rich Rodriguez is Michigan's head coach as of today; therefore we support him. That makes sense. But I get nervous when people go out of their way to lambaste the man who might be our head coach in two weeks. Not because I think they're wrong or I disagree with them, but because I don't want another Michigan coaching regime facing unwarranted criticism at the outset. Rich Rod was dealt a bum hand upon his arrival; if he is retained, he has the opportunity to rewrite his legacy and tell the local and national media to suck it. If he is fired, I don't want Jim Harbaugh to be forced to face the same unnecessary Sisyphean challenge.
December 14th, 2010 at 7:09 PM ^
Big B, I understand what you are saying. But, I think any way you look a this, there is going to be some disgruntled fans. Not all Michigan fans are going to be rationale and support the decision by DB. I agree that JH's personal past is his own and people deserve second chances. Interesting because some would say that RR never got a first chance.
I think that whether we have JH or RR, we have 2 pretty good coaches and we shall win. I don't have to like our coach but I will not cheer against Michigan. I think the only candidate that can unite the fanbase is someone we can't get. Hopefully, people will be more open minded toward JH, if he is out new coach, than others were to RR.
December 15th, 2010 at 8:27 AM ^
Big money donors/former players would be the power behind the JH move. All of us fans would have to deal with it. Les Miles was the coach before it leaked and he was given the "Godfather" ultimatum from LSU.
RR was behind the eight ball to begin with, he wasn't Les and he wasn't from the UM tree AND he came in a basically tried to change UM from apples to oranges, there is nothing wrong with oranges but we've been eating apples for 40 years and there was nothing wrong with them.
IMHO UM is a Jimmy & Joe PRO Form team, it's the DNA of the program. The spread was designed to defeat the Big Boy Pro programs with non Pro guys and X's & O's. As Brian has stated IF JH is hired UM will start to become a Multiple formation team ala Spread HD and in the future going back to PRO/Mutiple.
Again IMHO going back to 2008 Boren doesn't transfer due to "Family Values" and Zack getting a scholarship for FB (RR doesn't offer to FB's). Mallet does transfer but UM has Threet (pro style) and maybe Manningham/Arrington stay for their senior year and hence a possible winning season and not 3-9.
In summary, I'm not a fan of the spread unless it's another tool in the tool box and not the only tool. As an old "get off my lawn" UM fan I want my Defense back and not another scheme D (3-3-5). So RR stays, unfucks the D(jimmy's & Joe's 4-3/3-4) and I'll learn to like "spread" but I'll have my D back. RR gone UM, goes back to Apples and I'm happy even if they take a step back next year.*
*(Not that my opinion matters and I will root for UM regardless b/c who the hell else I'm I going to root for?)
December 14th, 2010 at 4:16 PM ^
with a golden bathroom?
What is your deal?
December 15th, 2010 at 9:44 AM ^
they're a bitch to keep clean
December 15th, 2010 at 11:31 AM ^
YOUR deal?
December 14th, 2010 at 3:05 PM ^
but if this is true, and this guy is being brought in as the OC for a season and will be given the HC after next year, that may be enough to get Casteel looking elsewhere. If he sees there is no posibility he gets considered for HC he may see it as a snubb and be more inclinded to make a move. Just throwing that out there.
December 14th, 2010 at 3:35 PM ^
affair with Casteel? I mean, there are other guys who can run a defense, I presume..
December 14th, 2010 at 3:43 PM ^
If you know of any, please forward their contact information to:
Rich Rodriguez, Schembechler Hall, Ann Arbor, MI
Previous attempts at finding "other guys who can run a defense" have been met with failure, and assistance will be appreciated.
December 14th, 2010 at 3:51 PM ^
Looks like Texas just picked up one, but I'm sure we'll be able to get one a great one after the bowl game........Doh
PS - What's the zip? 48104?
December 14th, 2010 at 3:57 PM ^
I'm sure H.R. Puffinstuff and Teddy Ruxpin will be available.
P.S.
I think that is correct, but the University buildings might have their own zip? I think my dorm back in the day was 48109.
December 14th, 2010 at 4:49 PM ^
The reason for all the Casteel stuff is this: RR seems fixated on running a 3-3-5 defense, but doesn't really understand how to run one effectively. It seems that no matter whom our DC is, RR will want him to run the 3-3-5 at least part of the time. So as long as he's our head coach, we should try to get a proven 3-3-5 guru. Casteel is apparently that guy. I'm not 100% sold on him, given the crappy competition he faces in the Big East, but he's at least doing very well against said crappy competition, unlike how our current DC did.