Aaron Burbridge injury
Aaron Burbridge is out of MSU camp with an injury. Dantonio won't say anything about it. If this ends up being a serious injury it can only hurt MSU's already questionable passing game.
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2012/08/michigan_state_freshman…
is deanthony arnett eligible this season?
I'm hoping he was trying to reply to the question above
that he indeed was answering the question. If trying to be a dick, he would have used an exclamation point after the "yes". Too bad a few are too quick to jump to conclusions.
Now that I've had my say there, I, too, hope the kid is OK. Nobody sane celebrates injury to any player.
There is a reply button. You used it. I used it. He did not use it. He's been around long enough to know to use it. If he wanted to avoid confusion, he would have.
There are more people here who would start celebratory posts for Dantonio's funeral than you'd like to believe.
I, for one, love Dantonio. I love Purple Face. I love Meyer. Why? Because when else have our three main rivals had such easy coaches to hate? It's no fun when you can't despise a rival coach...
Relax kind sir. I missed the reply button. As you can see, I sent the message at 1:18, a few mins before anyone else replied. I would never be happy about an injury to an athlete.
No need for Sparty-bashing on this one, please...
If Burbridge was a preseason B1G WR I'd care.
We don't need threads for injuries to random players on other teams.
but what if this guy in particular came from the state of Michigan, was widely considered the #1 overall recruit in the state and Michigan had lots of interest until realizing that he was an academic liability. It would be nice to keep tabs on such a guy to see if Michigan missed on him or dodged a bullet.
While you may feel that "we don't need threads for injuries to random players on other teams," there are 34 responses to the thread as of this writing. Obviously, a few people think it's important enough to read.
It's certainly better than a Penn State soap opera update every bleeping day.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:32 AM ^
Went bottom feeding at RCMB and they're saying it is a meniscus tear....
Can somebody explain to me what a meniscus tear is the same way they would to a ten year old?
I'm an expert. I have a 10 year old:
It means something inside your knee is hurt, and it will take time to get better.
For understanding more about the meniscus tear, I can recommend this wikipedia article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tear_of_meniscus
I'm in no way an expert on medical issues, but from this article, it sounds like his season will be in jeopardy and if serious, his career as well, due to risk of reinjury. Here's hoping he will make a speedy recovery (but be shut down by the Blake Countesses and Terry Richardsons of this world when he plays us, obv).
Highlights from wikipedia:
If the destroyed part of the meniscus was removed, patients can usually start walking using a crutch a day or two after surgery. Although each case is different, patients return to their normal activities on average after a few weeks (2 or 3). Still, completely normal walk will resume gradually and it's not unusual to take 2–3 months for the recovery to reach a level where a patient will walk totally smoothly. Many meniscectomy patients don't ever feel a 100% functional recovery, but even years after the procedure they sometimes feel tugging or tension in a part of their knee. There is little medical follow-up after meniscectomy and official medical documentation tends to ignore the imperfections and side-effects of this procedure.
If the meniscus was repaired the rehabilitation program that follows is a lot more intensive. After the surgery a hinged knee brace is sometimes placed on the patient. This brace allows controlled movement of the knee. The patient is encouraged to walk using crutches from the first day, and most of the times can put partial weight on the knee.
The time course varies with each patient. Starting from the second month the patient maybe able to walk freely and can also do various "low-impact" exercises (static bicycle, swimming, etc.), but should expect the knee to feel stiff and sore. If the rehabilitation was done properly the patient can gradually return back to "high-impact" activities (like running). However, "heavier activities", like running, skiing, basketball etc., generally any activities where knees bear sudden changes of the direction of movement can lead to repeated injuries. When planning sport activities it makes sense to consult a physical therapist and check how much impact the sport will have on the knee.
Not sure if you got the answer you were looking for. Seems more about repair attempts, hope this helps also:
There are two menisci in your knee; each rests between the thigh bone (femur) and shin bone (tibia). The menisci are c-shaped, made of tough cartilage and conform to the surfaces of the bones upon which they rest; (not to be confused with another type of cartilage lining each bone end). One meniscus (medial meniscus) is on the inside of your knee. The other meniscus (lateral meniscus) rests on the outside of your knee. The two menisci function to distribute your body weight across the knee joint, (like a rubber gasket would between two pieces of irregular-shaped metal).
These can become torn due to injury especially when the knee joint is bent and then twisted under pressure, (like pivoting while running a pass route for example). It is also commonly referred to as "torn cartilage" in the knee.
The meniscus is cartilage in between your knee: between where the ACL on the outside is, and the MCL on the inside. When you tear it, your knee swells up below and inside of the knee cap, and moving your lower leg will cause significant pain. If the pain is on the outside: ACL, inside: MCL, somewhere in the middle of your knee: Meniscus.
Depending on how bad it is, it takes about two weeks before you're really comfortable walking on it at all without crutches. Rest, ice and IB profen help it along. Exercise to rehab include RDLs, box squats, prone quads, and straight leg raises. After maybe four weeks you get to where you can walk around a feel almost normal, but if you go too fast (and decide to participate in PE when you are supposed sit out) you may re-injure it.
My son injured his in early November, and he re-injured it twice in December jumping while playing basketball in PE (with a knee brace on). He started LAX in late February wearing a knee brace, and re-injured it in scrimmage the second week. By May he had shifted from knee brace, to knee brace and knee pad, to just knee pad, and then finally felt confident that it was gone.
I would imagine the therapy and rehab a Staee player gets, may bring them back ealier than our experience. (One of those benefits everyone forgets when they talk about players not getting paid: $75 a 30 minute session, 2x a day ... versus doing it yourself once you've been told what to do) I am guessing if Burbridge is back for the Michigan game, he will not be 100%. He'll be tentative, and will have lost a step or two, and several inches in vertical leap.
I'm not sure having world class medical attention when you tear ligaments, suffer concussions, or break bones is something that should be thrown out as a reason why players shouldn't get paid. I think one of the great points overlooked in the debate is that these athletes are risking their future health and aren't given consideration for workers compensation because they aren't "employees". I would hope that young men and women who put their bodies at risk for a sport they play will receive the best treatment available, lord knows the schools make enough money to afford that.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:01 AM ^
I always wondered who foots the bill for the health care in the case of student athletes. Are they insured by the University or Athletic Department? Or, do they have to provide for these surgeries through their own or their family's medical coverage?
August 9th, 2012 at 10:31 AM ^
is that student athletes are covered by University insurance for injuries arising out of their performance of sport. My sister had her ankle basically reconstructed at the end of her college career (she was a gymnast), and I believe it was covered entirely by UofM.
I could be completely wrong, though, and I have no idea how catastrophic injuries work (such as Eric LeGrand).
August 9th, 2012 at 10:46 AM ^
I am pretty sure that while they are playing in college that they are insured by the Athletic Department and if they get hurt while playing the medical costs are payed for by said Athletic Department even if the rehab continues after their playing days are over. I can't imagine how some of these kids could afford all the ACL tears that happen. Specific examples that I can think of for serious injuries that extend past playing careers would be Antonio Bass (UofM) and Eric LeGrand (Rutgers) that a school would continue to pay for medical bills.
Edit: Beaten to it.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:42 AM ^
August 9th, 2012 at 10:50 AM ^
While I support the stipend, I do not believe we should pay players a salary. As I have said before, minor league baseball players make way less that the current benefits college players get.
Howerer, like you, I beleive some of the big dollars coming in from this sport ought to be set aside for managing the post career aspects to football.
If six or so make it to the NFL, there are 94 who have spent 4 to 5 years gaining weight and muscle mass, eating twice as many calories a day as a normal person, and sustaining injuries. Without continued wellness guidance and care, I imagine many of these guys struggle through the transition back to mere mortal - not to mention continued therapy for injuries, or even surgical repair. And then there is the realization that the NFL is not going to work out, so maybe another year or so in school for an additional degree in a post-realization career field of choice.
This is where I would prefer the money go, than say a new marquis, and palatial office space (talking Saban and Miles here) - the well being and education of these students, including after an athletic life that made the university millions.
I remember reading about a school (maybe Oregon) who had all of their athletes enroll in a post-athletics wellness program designed to help them adjust healthily to leaving competitive athletics. They emphasized how to safely lose playing weight by giving them techniques to slowly reduce their calorie intake and exercise in a timeframe and manner more sensible for an adult than a college student with a flexible schedule. It focused on a couple of lineman who were able to drop about 50lbs within six or so months off of their 300+ playing weights by the end of their senior year. It sounds like a lot, but the guys were working very hard to stay heavy, so the weight seemed to come off pretty easily for them.
I think Manningham tore his meniscus his last year here in the MSU game, he ended up missing a few games, but bounced back pretty quickly and only missed 2 games or so.
August 9th, 2012 at 10:40 AM ^
Is that what Manningham had? It was actually 2006. People kept saying he got hurt catching that second touchdown pass in the MSU game but I always thought he looked perfectly fine.
He actually missed 4 full games against Penn State, Northwestern, Iowa and Ball State. He came in for only 1 play against Indiana.
With all of MSU's intergalatical recruiting success I am sure Dantonio has another Malibu speed demon laying in the weeds somewhere.
Charles Rogers!
has glass collar bones!
Hopefully, he can find his way onto the field sooner rather than later after a full recovery, of course. That stinks to basically just get to camp only to be sidelined with an injury, I am sure. WR is a position group where I believe MSU was looking for some early-and-often contributions from guys like Burbridge, so this would set them back a bit.
Ammirite??
/s
He arrived about a week ago, so is behind other players as far as practice and in the weight room. They've got some depth at WR, just nothing experienced (ie young), and though he is probably their most talented WR, my feeling is he was going to redshirt this year anyway.
My roommate in college tore his maniscus playing football in high school. He ran all the time in college (though not the kind of high impact, route running you'd expect to see in a D1 Wide Receiver).
Also, my sister-in-law tore her maniscus and she was a D1 runner at Detroit Mercy. She was playing beach volleyball a few weeks later, though with some soreness and swelling.
Anecdotal evidence sure, but I think its pretty common for people to bounce back from a maniscus tear.
I'm not sure why my Sparty friend feels so confident in their passing game, but he speaks of Fowler and Lippett like they're primed to be All-B1G honorable mention, and that Arnett will take the league by storm. After that he was optimistic that either Burbridge or Madaris would contribute as well.
I'm not sure how he can be so optimistic when Fowler and Lippett have 20 combined catches in their career and Maxwell, who is even less experienced, is their QB. Sparty goggles for sure.
Aty the end of the day his logic rests on their running game and that passing game being able to score at least twice each game and the defense being so good that they'll rarely need to do any more than that. It's a good defense, but we'll see how that works out for them.
August 9th, 2012 at 12:24 PM ^
They're going to miss Cousins. He wasn't just a three-year starter, he was a three-year captain. They're going to realize how important he was when he's gone.
Fowler showed glimpses during his RS freshman season until he was sidelined with a foot injury. Everything seems like his foot is 100% so he should be the best of the bunch at WR, along with DA who has starting experience in the SEC
DA, as you name him, only had one start I believe. Also, only 24 catches in the one year. Not exactly a ton of experience. A good begining maybe.
this helps MSU and Burbridge. Let's be real... I can't be the only one thinking this kid may not stay eligible. A year off the field might give him a leg up on his classes. Good for him and for MSU's APR.
A meniscus injury won't keep him off the field for an entire year. Probably more like the first month of the season.