AANews: Lewan Assault Case Gets Clearer
The Ann Arbor News FOIA'd AAPD documents and security footage of the Taylor Lewan incident outside the Brown Jug after the Ohio State game. Read for yourself, but rather predictably, Taylor doesn't come off looking too great here.
Why Dileo's sister be snitchin'?!
Probably preferable to Obstruction-of-Justice-in'.
I feel like a few people over the course of our judicial system's lifetime have given a "I didn't see anything". I've also seen my fair share of movies set in the hood and witnesses don't make a peep...not even about murda!
And.....that would be wrong.
You're kidding right?
everybody walks.
and in my prior life i can tell you there are plenty of witnesses to homicides and other dandy acts of humanity where the witnesses don't ever say a word. had a double execution in the middle of a crowded housing project - nobody would say a word and it was brutal and for all to see.
All you have to say is "I don't recall" and no snitchin be needed.
This is true though.
the fluctuation of your point total is the best thing about this site
Hopefully because Lewan was out partying in a red shirt mere hours after losing to OSU.
This makes sense (I've never understood how he was wearing a red shirt...that night of all damn nights). She's just trying to restore order or something.
but it certainly isn't hard to read something into the comment that she's no longer with him because
She said the break up was due to Lewan’s “lying”
It sounds like a lot of very drunk people with different stories. I can't see this standing up in court.
That's what they say in the mean street of Ann Arbor.
...and yes, I meant street, not streets. It's Ann Arbor, it's just one street, then back to college life and suburbia.
We still don't know what was said to him before he punched him. according to the article there was a group of four Buckeyes and four Wolverines fans. I'm guessing they weren't singing kumbaya with each other. If you get hit after insulting each other then you get no sympathy from me.
Words are literally just that....words, there's no reason to get violent in this kind of situation.
Let's not state things in absolute terms. What if the words were "Please strike me, I beg you" or "I'm going to do very bad things to your mother right now unless you stop me"?
/s, kind of
While I won't ever feel very bad for adults that face neagtive consequences after saying idiotic things, that doesn't make what Lewan did ok. If Lewan acted violently, he should be punished. He needs to show more maturity than letting a few idiotic fans affect him in such a way to coerce a physical reaction from him. He should have just laughed the idiot fans off. They won't be the last he'll come in contact with, I'm sure.
Can't see shit in the video.
"According to multiple witnesses, Munsch had been walking around with a megaphone on the night of Nov. 30 and Dec. 1."
Dude, walking around taunting people with a megaphone? Taylor Lewan is a goddamn hero for punching that asshole in the face. I take back all the mean things I said about him.
Seriously this guy with a mega phone is a total douche and was asking for this. Anyone running around totally tanked on an opposing campus with a heated rival with a MEGAPHONE taunting people in pain for a loss? I have no sympathy. Glad he was not permanently hurt but this Darwinism at it's best. What a tool. Taylor may have made a poor choice but in this chaos he could easily have been coming to his brothers aid and likely will be found not guilty for lack of evidence. Red Shirt. Cmon man wtf Taylor.
He's plainly lucky Lewan didn't shove the megaphone up his ass.
Pretty sure you meant the megaphone user's ass, although Lewan shoving the megaphone up his own ass would be something.
how did he not get his ass kicked earlier?
Most UM fans look upon such actions with disgust, turn away, and carry on with their business without violence.
I said this on a thread few days ago and i say it again: Good for him, Ohio fans need to be put in their place sometimes.
It's not "Ohio fans."
Come on, that's ridiculous. But someone purposefully taunting the home crowd in their town after they've been drinking to deal with the depression of the loss of such a heated rivalry game deserves to get their ass beat. Say what you will about Ohio fans, but less than 1% would stoop to that level.
I would say I agree with you if you upped your number from 1% to about 38% or so.
Yeah, I read down and he was kind of asking for it. He gets no symphathy fro me. If he was a respectful guy then I would be on his side.
Here's the video posted in the story. As others have mentioned, it's difficult to get much from this:
Yawn. An OSU fan shot his mouth off and got beat up. Big deal.
I'd be dissapointed if that didn't happen.
Wow, that's some crappy video. I'll be interested to see the video they got from the other 5 businesses nearby.
Drunk OSU fan cruising Ann Arbor with a megaphone taunting michigan fans... wow. Sounds like he got what he deserved.
That video is probably worse on the eyes than watching Japanese anime.
Lewan was a captain of our team and should've known to better restrain himself, but if some dipshit OSU fan is running his mouth around Ann Arbor, then I can honestly say that the guy got what he deserved.
I don't see how any of this is A) new and B) reflects badly on Lewan.
It's a he said she said thing whether he punched the guy or not, the police statements and surveillance footage are both inconclusive. It's clear he didn't start the fight and was coming to the aid of his brother (who probably comes off looking the wost out of anyone).
Also, a falling-down-drunk ohio fan with a megaphone taunting UM fans after a game? Let's just say I don't really feel too bad about him making a trip to the hospital.
No kidding. Trust me - if a Michigan fan was running around Columbus after a game with a megaphone taunting OSU fans he wouldn't be making a trip to the hospital.
He'd be making a trip to the morgue.
Sorry, I don't trust you. Highly doubt a megaphone and some taunting in Columbus would literally get you murdered.
True story...back in 86 I was in HS and we drove down to see Michigan beat Ohio at the Shoe.
My dumbass " friend " at the time *(who had the car because his dad owned a dealership) brought a bullhorn and pulled it out when we were on top of the parking garage facing the Shoe. He started shouting all kinds of s--t...and Ohio fans were getting very angry. I was actually a bit fearful for our lives...but it was funny ...
hey we were 16 years old and unsupervised.... on our first trip from home...
the Ohio fan that pulled this stunt in AA was 28.
Years later, (after I lost touch with the guy) my former friend raped and murdered a kid and is now incarcerated in Jackson state prison.
for sharing that.
Really? Folks get murdered for a lot less than that every day...in more civilized places than Columbus.
Would get your ass kicked though!
It's Columbus. I've heard from a former resident, "everyone kills people, murders people....."
The Ohio fan had consumed 8 beers and 14 oz of liquor, yet could remember the situation perfectly clearly...sure...
That was the most-ridiculous part of the story, in my opinion. Nearly an entire pint of liquor and eight beers?! The Buckeye's brother said he had about ten drinks since 7:30 and the incident happened at midnight; that's an EXTREME amount of boozing.
Other people they were with also described a large amount of drinking. One of the men in the Munschs’ group fell in the moments before the altercation because he walked into a fence outside the Brown Jug on South University Avenue.
It shows how trashed they were. This is from 247 Sports report on the incident.
Marcus and Curtis were adamant they had not excessively consumed alcohol prior to the incident.
“I had to work (in Columbus) the next day at noon and I drove to the hospital less than two hours after (the alleged attack),” Marcus said.
Said Curtis: “We were going to get food and then go to our hotel because we were leaving at 8:30 in the morning when this whole thing happened."
They were planning on driving to Columbus soon for work. The police report contradicts a lot of what this report says. Link
they also were planning on getting up early to go to church in their version as well.
Lewan shouldn't have done anything but he was trying to protect his brother and the guy was a total DB. He shouldn't have done it but it doesn't sound like Lewan's the bad guy who Phillip Nelson'd a poor innocent guy that the media and others have portrayed.
What Would Ray Lewis Do? Stab a dude and walk. Taylor should be fine, nothing to see here.