things go poorly
72 yard punt?
He was also pretty effectivce on kickoff duty. IIRC, he was consistently getting kickoffs inside the 5 and had a touchback.
He could pass Zoltan Mesko as the earths best punter but Mesko will still rule the Milky Way and beyond. I'm sure he won't mind loosing one planet...
I wonder how will would fare kicking field goals? Maybe this kid can get the monopoly on the kicking game at Michigan.
I was surprised to see that was the second longest in school history (at least I think I read the game notes correctly). Second only to Monte Robbins bomb against Hawaii. I would have thought there were some other long ones in the past couple years.
Edit: The record is Robbins' 82 yarder in 1987 to be exact.
Question: Why does Yahoo have to put Denard Robinson's shank punt on the front page?
i didn't like either of those QB punt calls today. i think there's a place for those - maybe if you're in your own territory and the opponent really thinks that you could go for it. but when you have a good punter and are clearly within the range for either punting it out of bounds or bombing one skyward and hoping that your guys can run under it, why not have the punter do the punting?
my hope is that by doing so many of those, Wisco or tOSU will buy it when we do the fake instead.
I agree, they should lose that play. The punts are mostly terrible and I'd be more confident in our punter just angling it out of bounds then putting our QB out there to kick and then watch our offense try to stop a return.
It would be different if we ever ran the fake or even if it was a situation where the other team thought we might be going for it.
Are you looking at the same play I'm looking at? Because I remember earlier this year at least three times that the QB punt has been downed inside the 5. This is a reactionary response to one shank.
uh, i just looked through the box scores, and i see only one QB punt that was downed inside the 20 (denard against notre dame). correct me if i missed something, but otherwise, this is manufacturing data to make a point.
Tate downed one around the 5 against Notre Dame and one at the 15 against Iowa (although that was only a 26 yard net).
Your memory is a bit off, but I agree with your "this ia a reactionary response to one shank" statement.
As I mentioned in another thread, Denard's only previous punt this year came in the Notre Dame game, and it was a 30-yarder that pinned ND back on their own 4 yard line.
Forcier has punted three times with an average of 35 yards per punt, which isn't bad, but none of them landed inside the 20 yard line. (source: U-M Football Stats)
Since we usually use the ol' QB punt from about the 40 I think that getting inside the 20 should be fairly easy. I would harbor a guess and say that our actual punter should be able to put every one inside the 20.
My other main worry is our "punt" coverage by the offense. I remember one of the qb punts being returned and was close to breaking it for a big return.
I say let our punter do the punting and our punt coverage team do the punt covering (which shouldn't be needed as the punter should just blast it out of bounds around the 10)
yeah they didn't mention that PU's actual puntuer had a 9 yarder that didn't catch anyone by surprise
It was a great play, to be sure, despite our defense giving up the big gainer immediately afterwards. I'd like to see him do something close to it a little more consistently (doesn't have to be epic every time) before we start bestowing titles.
Hard to say if he will be better. He obviously has the leg. But will he develop consistancy and touch when he needs to drop one inside the ten? We will have to wait and see.
? Kicker Seth Broekhuizen struggled yet again, missing an extra point and a field goal. Rodriguez said he'd probably give redshirt freshman Brendan Gibbons another shot.
"Seth, it was a disappointing day from that standpoint because he's been kicking great in practice," said Rodriguez. "We've struggled all year, but he's clearly the best one in practice, so you've got to go with that. But we'll see what happens this week in practice."
TomVH Tom VanHaarenBrendan Gibbons should feel terrible about himself. Army All American last year, scholarship kicker, and he doesn't play.
How bad is Gibbons? Maybe he's just a terrible practice player and we need to give him a couple of kicks in a real game.
I thought Rod said early on in the year that both kickers were hitting 50 yarders consistently in practice?
I'm sure he hits them in practice. Distance hasn't really been the issue - direction has. Today he missed way wide right from the right hash. I'm thinking he needs to find a way to relax.
Gibbons was 1/4 on FGs before he was permanently relieved of his kicking duties in the ND game. He also missed a PAT in the UCONN game. So, he definitely has not shown anything in the game action he's had. But, it might be time to give him another shot, because Broekhuizen has been abysmal of late.
I seriously think we just plain shouldn't attempt any FGs of more than 35 yards. We seem completely incapable of making one from beyond that distance.
I'm not making excuses, but that field looked horrible out there so maybe that had something with the missed kicks. Of course, Purdue didn't seem to have any problems...
The kicking game will need to be addressed next year, but for now it hasn't really hurt the team. With this offense and (until today, at least) this defense, I rather they just go for it unless the kick is a sure chip-shot.
It may well have cost us the Iowa game, and very nearly cost us the ND game.
Brandin Hawthorne needs to knock some sense into Gibbons.
was that the punt traveled most of that distance in the air. He got a good bounce, but other punts I've seen that are in that range usually get a good bounce and then get an extra 25 yards (see Purdue's long punt of 67 yards today)
I rewound to watch the punt again to see how far it went in the air. By my math, it was 60 yards from scrimmage (so about 68-70 from where he kicked) and 12 yards of roll.
That's a helluva kick.
I was at the game and there was a very strong wind at his back. Still impressive.
Yeah that's true, he definitely had the wind at his back (which is why all the kickoffs going to the North were going so far, and we were actually able to get a couple touchbacks early on).
I was sitting behind that endzone too though, and you could tell from the sound when he kicked that thing that he got a hold of it.
He stands on the opposing 45 yard line and consistently bounces it off the wall beyond the north endzone - in the air! That's at least 70 yards from where he kicked the ball (not from scrimmage).
He can boom them for sure -
I don't know, with that punt we might have to crown a co-space emperor of space
i nominate him for space prince. Heir to the emporer.
I assume that any omnipotent being like The Space Emperor would also be incapable of death.
At the end of hagerup's career he will surpass Mesko as a better punter, no doubt in my mind. I know mesko had a great career, but i don't really care. What this kid is doing as a true freshman is pretty impressive
My friend and I were watching him warming up before the game and he was consistently booting them from the goal line to about the opposite 35-30 yard line.
Florida has one hell of a punter. Averaging 48 yards a kick is pretty absurd
....Michigan should be in good shape for the next few years.......
Through the Purdue game, Hagerup is averaging 44.0 yards per punt. If the season had ended today, that would have been good for second best in U-M history, behind Mesko's 44.46-yard average last year.
For comparison's sake, Mesko averaged 41.58 yards his freshman year.
I'd say Hagerup's career is off to a good start.
It may have just been me, but Broekhuizen at least seemed to be able to hit the end zone (or close to it) with the kick-offs for the first time today.
I stand corrected.
Why is punting so good but place-kicking god awful???
We now have a punter - no doubt about that
Maybe Hagerup can start drop-kicking it for fields goals like Doug Flutie