I here the cocoa business is booming this time of year in Bolivia.
Peppers at 10, which seems low.
I here the cocoa business is booming this time of year in Bolivia.
lemming? You seem exactly that in the mold of the joyless cynic. Paraphrasing Lou Reed...there is always some evil mother who tells you life is just to die.
Or for being a troll?
No trolling is being a fake fan or just trying to rile people up on a message board.
But your "National Championship" argument is extremely misguided and incorrect. In those days, the national champion was a game of politics. Bo never played for a National Championship; his one goal was to win the B1G. Had we played in the 1973 Rose Bowl and won, being undefeated, we would've been the National Champion more than likely - we all know how that turned out.
Ohio State won the 1973 Rose Bowl, was undefeated, and wasn't the national champion. There were two other teams that finished undefeated and untied; ND was voted #1.
Why would it have been different if it had been Michigan instead of OSU?
Yeah, average my ass. You want to know what's average this year? The big ten without a dominate Michigan team. Not one other school has played well on offense or defense other than Wisconsin. Hopefully this average big ten has no representatives in any BCS bowl games. They sure don't deserve it.
Yeah, it's better now as the fifth best conference in college football.
If 13 Big Ten Championships in 21 years is average, I'll take average every day.
Not to mention going out w/two back to back, outright Big Ten Championships. The last time Michigan did that was in 1988 & 1989.
You're an idiot.
I believe we also did it in 1991 and '92, but your point is taken.
Ah yeah you're right. Still an amazing run 1988-1992 was.
Email account he signed up with revealed he's a guy who spends time starting some epically stupid flame wars on Howard Stern message boards. No thanks.
Why am I not surprised. "Epically stupid" is actually generous to the middle-schooler. Any chance he's actually Ace Williams?
Thanks, Ace. Good move.
Why isn't this comment grayed-out yet?
It feels like yesterday... I remember coming home from school with a feeling of elation because of the highly anticipated game vs Ohio the next day and then seeing this on tv... I'm pretty sure I broke out in tears not too long after it settled in.
I was siting in my German class ready to go home when my teacher actually broke the news. Can't believe it was that long ago
I was at a Run For The Roses rally and pretty excited. He looked at me and said, " If the team plays with that much enthusiasm tomorrow, we'll win, no question."
I remember sitting in calc 2 my freshman year. A Russian woman named Irena was teaching, and my partner got a text on his phone. One of my most vivid memories, it was 2 days before Ohio game.
I too was a freshman that year. That week was so effing epic, it's forever burned in my memory. Campus hit an absolute boiling point that week with excitement for the #1 vs #2 Ohio State game. Unreal
I had breakfast once with Bo, his son Shemy and George Lilja here in Cleveland in the late 90's. The four of us sat a table and Bo told one funny story about George after another and you could tell there the man cared a lot about his ex-captain.
He was unbelievably nice to me (a complete outsider) and I did my best to simply shut up and listen to him talk. It was fantastic.
And saw espn on that little tv
I saw it on that little TV in West Quad too! Except it was at breakfast, maybe 1030am. The next day I drove down to Columbus and went to the game. The late hit / helmet to helmet / BS happened right in front of me. Ugh.
We miss you Bo!
I still remember where I was when I heard he was gone. I was on I-75 - on the Rouge River Bridge in SW Detroit - when the announcement was made from Providence Hospital in Southfield. I believe he was supposed to film a segment at Channel 7 when he collapsed. It might have been an hour or so after that when it was announced. I had just left a meeting downtown and was going to pass through Taylor - where I had some project work on which I needed to get design notes - and then head back to Belleville. When I finally got off of I-75 at Northline, I pulled over and just sat in the car in silence. It was a very sad moment. I did lay some flowers by the stadium the next day after work.
Work must've passed by noiselessly in the background I bet.
Truly a kegend. We miss you.
That is seriously fucked up.
One of my high school friends who got his bachelors degree from MSU posted facebook pictures of his middle finger in front of schem hall the day after his death.
Why was he in Ann Arbor ? He got his law degree from UofM and was in school at the time. Worst state fan I know.
I hope he falls down multiple flights of stairs and suffers severe injuries.
Learned a lot from reading your books on how to manage life.
Inadvertently I wound up telling about 100 people about his passing. I was on a plane landing at Metro and while taxiing I called my father-in- law to let him know my wife and I had arrived. He immediately told me. I told my wife, and within seconds it had passed through 100 suddenly silent passengers.
Or maybe we just didn't plan for Carr's retirement, made an outside hire that didn't work out, and it had nothing to do with Bo at all.
There doesn't always have to be a grand narrative to everything.
Where we missed him was during the Carr replacement search and the support he would have demanded and the wisdom he would have passed to Carr's successor.....But, that is what it was and those days are gone.
Fuck you, Crable? Really!??? Grow up, dude.
crable gave a lot more to michigan football than you ever will, you immature idiot
If I'm right, it couldn't have happened to a more deserving guy.
There are a number of other posters who should join him.
You are on a roll this weekend
Great guy. I met him once and he was extremely cordial. It was at an alumni event, and I remember that he arrived precisely at the time he was supposed to - not one minute early or late. He signed a book for me, and his signature was perfectly readable, every letter - no small feat for a guy whose last name is 12 letters long.
I never met Bo or even saw him. Pre 2006 I didnt follow anything Michigan - I grew up in Louisiana and ended up going north because it was the best school for me.
I learned about Bo mostly posthumously, from how people reacted to his passing, to stories told, and of course his amazing book Bo's lasting lessons.
i never met him, but a good friend of mine played pool with bo while they were waiting for a boat to take them back from drummond island, he said he and Bo drank bourbon on the rocks. Even got a christmas card from him for a couple years after that.
Right? Against a interim coach.
I was in a bit of a rough patch when I was playing. Injury. Bo, who had an office in the building, saw me in the training room every day for a while, moping.
Walking down from the training room to the locker room, I run into Bo. He asks how it's going. I reply, "Not great, Coach."
He stood dead in his tracks, looked me in the eye, and said, "Young man, you play for Michigan. Isn't that great?"
I feel like a fool, chuckle, and say, "Of course. I'm just struggling with this damn shoulder."
Bo says, "Son, remember I didn't bring you here to sit. Get that shoulder ready, we'll need you."
Bo hadn't brought me in. He had long since retired. I was a nobody, a freshman lineman third on the depth chart. I'd been injured about as much as I'd been healthy. The team was doing quite fine without me. But I'll be damned if that didn't motivate me and get me out of the funk I was in.
Second story, and one that my dad counts as one of his finest moments. At an All-State banquet after I'd committed to Michigan, Bo came up behind my dad, grabbed him by the elbow, and told him he had, "a good looking boy." I've never seen my dad beam so much.
Third story. I cried like a baby when he died. And I cried two years ago on the eve of the Ohio game when watching the HBO documentary. He talked to HBO about the rivalry and Woody, and went home and died. So poetic.
Those are great stories Reader. Especially the one about your dad.
Thanks for sharing.
Story: once he came into a high school gym where I was playing basketball - his son was playing there too. The whole place went quiet trying to see the famous ball coach over in the corner.
Thought: he died at the best possible time. OSU vs Michigan was at the top of the sport. His last days were in anticipation of something he helped put in place over many many years.
RIP Bo. A Michigan Legend.
I was a junior in undergrad. The thing I remember most is they had a memorial/pep rally on the diag on Friday night. I don't remember who spoke, but after they were done, everyone signed a banner that they were giving to Bo's family. While people we're filing through to sign it, we we're chanting "Let's go blue" and the Victors. It echoed throughout the Diag. It was an absolutely surreal experience with the magnitude of that game looming the next day. On the way back to our house, I had chills and thought there was no way we would lose the Game.
Right before kickoff at the Big House the PA announcer mentioned something about Bo, I could quite hear, the whole morning that day had been very cloudy, after the announcement, the clouds parted a little and the sun came out...it was as if Bo just needed a more look that day...it was very odd, am I the only one who remembers this?
It was the Ohio state game...my bad, either way, I won't forget that moment.
I was only in 6th grade to be completely honest but I was already deeply entrenched in Michigan Football, and I came home from school all giddy about The Game when I turned on the TV and saw that Bo had died that morning. I never saw Bo coach a single game in my life but I knew what he meant to the program, and I loved reading his book that was co-authored with John U. Bacon.
One thing that I always think about is if Bo would have a serious problem with calling OSU "Ohio". I feel like although he despised them, he wouldn't like it one bit because he respected the hell out of them.
Michigan football hasn't been relevant since...
6 hour drive to Columbus, spent the whole time talking with my mom about our dad who had passed away a few months before. You see it was our family thing to go to the Michigan/Ohio State game every year since I was 14. This would be our first without him and of course it was the biggest.
After that long at times emotional drive we checked into our hotel in Columbus and I turned the TV on only to see the announcements on ESPN. I was simply crushed. Right or wrong my dad idolized that man for what he done for Michigan football and even to a point looked like him. None of it has ever been the same.
and I was a young HS coach. It was right after George Perles was named HC at MSU and just before they left for the 1983 Rose Bowl vs UCLA. An invitation had been sent out to schools to see a practice in their new indoor facility. When it was over, a friend of mine that went with me and I were milling around the facility when Coach Hanlon spotted my jacket that had our school name on it. He had become acquaintances with some alums in our town and asked if I knew them (I did). He was giving us a hard time about visiting when Bo happened to walk by and Coach Hanlon called him over. Bo looked at us and said he knew we were just wandering around AA, saw the lights on in the building and wondered why the hell someone was practicing football on a Saturday night in December. We talked for a minute and they wished us a safe trip home. They started to walk away then stopped, turned around and asked if we had ever seen the rest of the facility. Of course our answer was no so Bo said to come with them and they would show us inside. So the four of us walked into the coaches/locker room area and as Bo stepped inside the office area he thanked us for coming down for the practice. Coach Hanlon then walked us through the locker room (when we turned the corner, there sat AC) and gave us a tour of the new weight room. For a young football coach that had grown up watching the Bo Schembechler led Wolverines, it was an incredible situation that still seems like yesterday.
just don't seem to appreciate what Bo meant for this program. Michigan football was nothing before Bo got here. It wasn't uncommon for the Big House to be barely half full. Hard to believe one man could have such a huge impact, but he did.
I'm not sure the exact year or exact bowl game, I know I could look it up but that takes time. It was a bowl game in Tampa against Florida when Rex Grossman was there qb. Blue won so we celebrated. We all stayed in the same hotel as the team because the girl who got us the tickets worked for the team and she let us sleep in her room. She was single so the team gave her her own room. Well, I celebrated harder than most so I went to bed early. When my hotel roommates came home, they heard me snoring right away and decided to put me in the bathroom. Well, not liking that I said I'll go sleep in the car. After not sleeping in the car at all, I wound up in the hotel lobby around 9ish, alone and sitting on this big couch by a table and some chairs.
Well, I decided to stretch out and take advantage. After a couple hours, I woke up with drool on my face. And sitting across the table on one of those chairs is a guy reading a newspaper. After I sit up and start to wipe my face, the guy lowers his paper, looks at me and says "You young people sure know to have fun." I smile and nod, but before I can respond someone comes over and directs him to wherever he's supposed to go at that time. Bo was cool!!
And then there are a handful of times I saw him on the UMs golf course, I worked there for three years. He always said hi as well as some other pleasantry and he never had too. Something along the lines of "too nice of a day" or "it's so hot it'll keep you skinny" or "where is your sun screen?" Bo was cool!!!
He was an arrogant, know it all bully who beat up on lesser teams but had trouble beating teams with equal or better talent because his teams couldn't pass effectively or defend against the pass effectively. No natl. champs even with all the outstanding players he had over the years. His bowl record was 5-12. Yes, 5 wins 12,yes 12 losses. Rose bowl record was 2-8, other bowls 3-4. Gotta go wizz. More about your beloved Glen later.
How many games did all you Glen lovers see that he coached? He was a terrible game coach when the team got behind. I talked to some of his players and they told me he would panic when things got tough and he would be almost foaming at the mouth because he had lost control of what was happening out on the field. A real control freak. Gotta go to bed but I'll leave you with these records. 21 games against OSU: 5-4-1 Hayes, 4-5-0 Bruce, 2-0-0 Cooper. Total 11-9-1 real dominant, huh? 10 games against ND: 4-6-0. Total bowl, OSU, and ND: 20-28. Yeah he beat up inferior teams, but didn't so well with the above teams. Oh and why did this supposed MICHIGAN MAN leave to go with the Detroit Tigers where he did one of the most stupid things in Tigers history--fire Ernie Harwell? A phony, a fraud.
Back to your bridge, whiny troll.
I remember MSC was in a Regent's meeting and they sent a note in to her during the session. That doesn't happen often; she had to know it was big news before she even read it. :(