With 2 commits so far that are not 4 & 5* stars, I was wondering where is all the OUTRAGE about not getting top prospects?? That is all that was ever posted on this board after every recruit that RR got.
Do you like Bolivia this time of year? Thats where you're headed with a post like this.
All he said is that he wondered where all the outrage was, not that he was outraged.
Half the prospects aren't even rated yet are they?? I'd wait to pass judgement until at least the fall when everyone is rated.
Rivals has only ranked about 15 kids at this point.
No, most of it was posts like this feigning outrage or wondering where the outrage was. The only real meltdown happened when Shawn Conway committed--and that was mostly one guy.
The most epic meltdown was over carvin Johnson, ime. Others included conelius jones, dj Williamson, Jerald Robinson, drew dileo, and jack miller.
so first the complaint was star rating and now the complaint is there are no people complaining about commits not having/enough stars
This guy is coming out of your irish' wheel house of cinci - we are coming for you, st x and modeler are next, except for coaches.
There are a lot of good players in Cincy, I don't know much about Stacey (I assume thats who your talking about) just that he doesn't have a ND offer. I can't say I am at all worried about UM on the recruiting trail against ND at this point, though
And I can't say I am at all worried about ND on the field against UM at this point.
Word. Get as many recruits as you want... Denard will still run all over your asses
Looking forward to week 2 as well
I can't imagine where your smugness rating's gonna be if Notre Dame wins in week 2.
Just focused on keeping it in check through spring practice over-hype that all the fan bases go through right now.
Don't over generalize there and include us in that category. While your fan base might be churning the over-hype machine, ours is actually correct when we say Mattison the best DC there is and is going to have this a top 10 D next year.
At this point I'd settle for top ten in conference.
I think my favorite UM spring over-hype was when one of the UM mods at rivals or scout said Koger was a better and would be a better TE than Kyle Rudolph, that one still makes me laugh
The mods at the premium sites are power-tripping idiots.
Haha, silly Kyle Rudolph....Everyone knows Rudolph is a reindeer's name.
Oh, yeah. That's the guy we tackled at the 1-yard-line.
yeah the TE with the torn hamstring that ran past your entire secondary on a 98 yard reception
Still better than the QB with the concussion and trouble seeing who was thrown into the game in an attempt to inject some life into ND's offense.
Yeah, that was painful to watch. But as it turns out, that guy playing free safety...yeah, he's going to be our strong side LB this year. He really should never have been a FS if he can let a TE beat him deep like that.
I'm looking forward to that roided up dude who posts one video per season saying how Michigan can't handle Teo. Then, after Michigan wins, he disappears from the internets. I wonder what props he is going to use this year. His little friend who walks in the background with the props cracks me up.
i wish it was only one game a year, its not
These kids haven't attended their camps during the summer yet or played their senior year of football. Ratings will chage. A lot.
This is true though that means they could also go down...
How is this getting upvoted?
this is like the people who complain when our recruits don't have enough big time offers and then complain when RJS gets offered by Oklahoma.
OL are the position most where coaches must decide how good the players are. Both of OUR guys are probably 4* caliber players, but don't be surprised if they dont' get the fourth star because they won't work out for the likes of Lemming et. al.and thus will get stuck with only 3 stars. Fine by me. In a couple years, we will have the best O line in the Big 10.
He's gone, dude.
Stacey had a bunch of offers too just for the record, I would think he'll end up a 4-star prospect.
I wouldn't say its likely with the offer list on rivals, but don't get caught up in stars they don't win you games.
Well if you take a look year by year at the teams with the best star-based recruiting classes they usually are the best teams in the country... except Norte Dame.
And Clemson. And Flordia State. And Miami. And USC (at least the last two years). And Tennessee.
A great coach will get your team a lot farther than the number of stars you can put on the field. Stars alone guarantee you nothing. If you just watched the Butler BB game you should be able to understand what I mean
Last time I checked we were talking about football... basketball is a completely different game. Look at the rivals top 25 recruiting classes from last year and tell me those teams don't have good football programs. LSU won a championship with Les Miles and he's an idiot.
you'll understand eventually
I think it's time to update that Smug rating.
With bad players gets you nowhere. Talent can make anyone look good. Coaching can only take you so far.
And you might want to double check...Butler has more talent than you think....
But I can understand you being scarred after watching Charlie Weiss waste away talent...
a great coach at the highest level of competition will get a team a lot farther than great recruits. A great coach can be at a school for a decade, in football a great player is there for 3 years max, in basketball they're there for 1.
Is having 2 three star players ranked by rivals in the past 4 years supposed to invalidate my example?
You seem to be hating on Michigan's recruiting a lot more than usual. I count at least 10 replies from you in this thread. I guess that comes with the territory when you have a losing record, for ever and ever amen, vs. RR at Michigan.
Says the guy whose team has consistently underachieved with swarms of 5* players over the past 20 years.
So you're saying I am right?
Of course having 5* players doesn't automatically get you wins. It gets you a better chance of winning games, but it does not win you a thing.
I just found it funny that you were suddenly the voice of reason regarding recruiting stars and winning games, as if that was some secret that had never been thought of before.
This isn't new I have always said offer lists mean more than stars when looking at a recruit. I don't need rivals or scout to validate a recruit with a star rating for my benefit.
This opinion isn't new, I have always thought this way going back to when I began following recruiting and college football in depth; but my definition what a great coach or great player actually is, that has evolved.
When Hoke recruits 5 receivers (all three stars to Rivals) in a single class while simultaneously signing 3 Olineman and zero NTs over two classses, I promise you I'll be bitching up a storm.
Calm down. Everyone, except a couple of people, know what the deal is. All the ratings aren't out. We are filling needs. we are recruiting locally. We aren't getting 5'7" 165 lbs. slots (no offense to anyone but we have a full depth chart at that position).
5'7" 165 lbs. Offensive Linemen.
I look forward to the time, hopefully soon, when Michigan offers a kid, then they automatically get a star up rating. That would solve this kind of crap.
It seems like every time we recruit someone, they start off as a 3* or so. We lose out to another school (to a SEC school) and all of a sudden he is a 5* diamond in the rough, can't miss, next coming of Jim Thorpe, tat two Heismans on him and call him a preseason All-Universe (ok, a lil exagerration). I thought it was just me who noticed that. YOU SEE MOM!!!! I'M NOT CRAZY!!!!!!
This might be sarcasm. If it's not, then this is pathetic.
The BIGGEST mistake I made was not putting "/s" at the end but it is to late the and the Neg bombs have begun....
Don't care Aussie Rules Football FTW. Wake me when the season starts.