the 3-3-5 rocks!
I know you guys are going to hate this, but let me just summarize. It is absolutely freaking asinine that we are running a defense that neutralizes Roh and that 100 percent of all sane people agree that you cannot run in the big ten. My solution for iowa/wisconsin/osu.
1. install the base defensive line of martin, campbell, black, and van bergen
2. bring in roh on third down as a fifth defensive lineman or move him into ezeh's spot.
3. let the corner's deal with man coverage, we can only stop one or the other, so be it. If they get torched, thats fine, but lets take away the cutback runs and the backwards roller skates on third and short.
And I don't want to hear anybody saying that freaking Campbell doesn't work hard or Campbell can't play. Its bullshit. Camnpbell is a beast and even if even he is Gabe Watson 2.0, it doesn't matter, because at least he would provide reliability a la cutback lanes so Ezeh didn't have to guess each time. He will draw a double team and he is a body, period. End of story. Those cutback runs yesterday demoralized the team and if GERG can't freaking come up with a solution or continues with this fu--ing insanity, then he will deserve to get what's coming to him. Freaking moron.
What we are asking for as fans is for him to try to make an adjustment. This shit 3-3-5 needs to go, it needs to go now, it needs to be extinguished so we can at least let Denard and the offense win us some games in the big ten this year. We come out next week without campbell and martin anchoring that line, we are done. Period. neg bang away.
October 10th, 2010 at 8:47 PM ^
I've been expecting a meltdown from AdverseVillain77 at some point. It's good to know that I can still spot them in a crowd!
October 10th, 2010 at 8:50 PM ^
I'm good, i think my free speech reading went to my head...
go blue...
October 10th, 2010 at 9:09 PM ^
I don't believe this is his first screenname either. Just a feeling.
By the way on the subject of "free speech." Just because you have free speech does not mean you need to be provided a forum for your free speech. This is a private enterprise owned by Brian et al. They are under no obligation to give you a forum to post your thoughts.
For example, before the internet if you were to write an letter to the editor, they were under no obligation to print that letter. But you seem to think that newspaper would be limiting your own free speech.
If your worried about your free speech. I'm sure adversevillion77.com is available, feel free to spout your views there.
October 10th, 2010 at 9:42 PM ^
everyone also has a right to remain silent....but they seldom do.
October 10th, 2010 at 9:49 PM ^
I think its obvious to most people that i'm not advocating that i would have a bona fide legal claim under the first admendment for getting negbanged on mgoblog. As I'm sure you know, this would be a moot question and foreclosed in the literal sense because first and foremost I have no injury.
The relevant point is that the sprit behind any blogging community is the same spirit that drives the history of free speech, which is self govenance, discovering truth, self expression, and promoting tolerance. Does that help?
October 10th, 2010 at 9:55 PM ^
I don't believe this is his first screenname either. Just a feeling.
Actually, your feeling is wrong. This is the only screenname I have used on mgoblog. I signed up on November 12, 2009, and followed the blog long before that, as Brian is has the best content out there. In case you were wondering, Nor will I change my screenname just because I have been negbanged. My screenname is based on the common law property theory of adverse possession, which basically says that you will come to own property that you don't hold legal title to if you act like it is yours and nobody contests it within a given statutory period.
In the mgoblog community, I had the foresight to see that many of my opinions would in fact give me the reputation of being unpopular, so in time, my conduct through posting, would adversely and literally turn me into a villain. I was born in 1977. So I am adversevillain77. Thank you for playing.
October 10th, 2010 at 10:10 PM ^
I had the foresight to see that many of my opinions would in fact give me the reputation of being unpopular, so in time, my conduct through posting, would adversely and literally turn me into a villain.
This is hilarious. Absolutely hilarious.
October 10th, 2010 at 10:29 PM ^
How I didn't say I was sure. You seem to know everything, worse you think you do. I love how you spout self goverence, such as us telling you your wrong, disagreeing with your opinion in the majority , down voting your opinions and even more so your argument style. Yet your resonse to that is calling everyone an asshole etc.
Were you thinking that you could claim MGoBlog and no one would notice? Also for a 33 year old you might want to rethink your priorties besides wasting a night being obnoxious on the intenet.
You knew you would be a villiain? So isn't that a self fulfilling prophency? Has this happened before that you knew that you would be considered the villian? Maybe someone needs to rethink his argument style and or change.
October 10th, 2010 at 11:04 PM ^
i think a lot of us spend more time following michigan football than we would rather admit. AFter all, you are here posting things as well, albeit , in your defense, probably less than I have tonight. You sort of turn self-governance on its head, as it is expressed anyway in regards to free speech. No problem, is is somewhat of an opaque term.
The self governance aspect of free speech goes towards the idea that we think it is a bad idea to suppress criticism by the minority of those who are in the majority. Therefore, self governance may not be one of the tenets of free speech that would be your strongest argument against me. I would probably agree with the notion however that there is a marketplace of ideas (discovering truth) and perhaps it is a viable conclusion that because most of the people posting here on mgoblog believe that the 3-3-5 is the best chance we have to succeed on defense this year, that it in actuality is the best chance we have of succeeding on defense, and therefore free speech has been satisfied in that we have discovered "the truth" that the 3-3-5 is the best defense.
About the name, I mean, I'm not posting to intentionally make people angry, but I guess I could see why my explanation would make you think that. peace.
October 10th, 2010 at 8:48 PM ^
Poole1Dan?
October 10th, 2010 at 8:51 PM ^
Does anyone remember that GERG has never ran a 3-3-5 before? This was not his idea, it was RR's. And that defense looked totally invincible yesterday in the first quarter. And I believe RR said they were running the 3-3-5 because it was simplier to run with so many inexperienced players out there. So get off GERG's ass.
October 10th, 2010 at 9:50 PM ^
Yeah, but GERG didn't run a 3-3-5 last year and the results were no prettier.
October 10th, 2010 at 9:15 PM ^
At this point, does it really matter which formation we run? I think our tackling and secondary would be pretty bad regardless.
October 10th, 2010 at 9:26 PM ^
any defense formation is called the BASE formation where the players run onto the field and generally go to.
Then the DC calls the new formation for that play based upon scouting and game situation and adjustments.
So a 3 man front can turn into 4 or 5 or 6 depending on the call. It could rush 4 all game.
All defenses are fluid in the modern game.
Anyone that tells you a defense runs a 3 to 4 or whatever all the time doesn't know anything.
October 10th, 2010 at 9:33 PM ^
Not to be a jerk, but the best way for this defense to improve is more of this:
And less of this:
And I'm not sure how that improvement will occur outside of time and getting better players into the system. Changing defensive schemes and play-calling will help in the short term, but we've all seen the talent this team has on defense. If someone like Campbell has not broken into the 2-deep, there is a reason for that, and no amount of hope or "I don't care what the coaches think, play him" rhetoric will change that reality. Maybe GERG needs to go, maybe RR needs to adopt a new defensive philosophy, or maybe this just needs more time. Those are all options, but they are options that nobody can honestly address until the end of the season. For now, let's take some solace in the fact the defense looked competent for stretches of the game, the young kids are getting some experience, and the team is 5-1 with a winnable game coming up.
October 10th, 2010 at 9:48 PM ^
wow...after reading through this entire thread, i've narrowed my thoughs on this gent down to three possibilities:
1) he simply had far too many Mgopoints and felt the need to go into Mgodebt
2) he's a glutton for punishment
3) he's ingnorant/incredibly stupid...coin toss if it's this one.
October 10th, 2010 at 9:51 PM ^
......is not much different than a 3-4 defense, IMO, when considering the front seven for run defense, other than replacing a typical LB sized player with more of a hybrid LB/Safety. The scheme is good, and works particularly well employed against a spread offense. What we lack is experience, intelligence to diagnose plays quickly(mostly a product of experience), and the athleticism at certain key spots to make it really work.
One other aspect about it is the aggressiveness of GERG employing the defense. IMO, Roh needs to be given the green light to the QB, or RB on pass or run blitzes. This takes away a pass defender, but given his ineffectiveness at defending the pass anyway, would not be a terrible loss.
The 3-3-5 will work in the B10 when we get the experience and talent all-around to use it effectively. How different would this year be if Troy W. was healthy, along with a completely healthy Carvin J.? I don't think it would be a world beater yet, but IMO, it would be significantly better than it is right now.
October 10th, 2010 at 9:55 PM ^
Why even try to continue arguing your point? I'm not saying I love GERG or the 3-3-5, but coaches do what they do for a reason. I trust his judgment a little more than I do yours for some reason. But more than anything, just stop.
October 10th, 2010 at 10:22 PM ^
is not the problem,in this defense you need a good nose tackle which we have.2 you need a big time middle linebacker which we don't have.I don't like hate obi ezeh he is just not getting the job done.
October 10th, 2010 at 10:47 PM ^
......reason that the defense, no matter what alignment they are making for a play, is not working. The MLB is the QB of the defense, and as such, has to make the correct reads on plays which dictates what the other guys playing LB and safety will do. Our current MLB does not make the correct read ever, intentionally, and only occasionally happens to be in the correct place.
If one watches the better college MLB's, one can see the effect upon the entire defense of being in the right place for the type of play being run by the offense. More stops are made. Rarely do you see any runs gashed on their defenses, other than the rare one that is set up by great blocks other than defensive mistakes. Watching the pros is even more eye opening, as far as LB play is concerned. Our LB has the size, strength, and speed to play the position, but not the intelligence. Usually a guy like that is moved to the outside where the decisions aren't nearly as critical.
Right now we have no one who fits the typical MLB mold of intelligence and physical stature to play the position effectively, and we hurt greatly overall as a defensive unit because of it. This isn't going to be fixed this year at all, and not necessarily next year either, unless we get some guys more PT. I think that needs to happen because no matter what, we can't get much worse at the position, and there might be a pleasant surprise waiting, either in Demens or JB.
October 10th, 2010 at 10:51 PM ^
I agree with you there. Part of the reason I thought going to a solid four man front would be to ease the effect that not having a David Harris on our team would have on our overall defense, as the reads for ezeh would get a lot easier if the potential gaps on running plays were reduced. If we had a kick ass linebacking corps, the 3-3-5 would probably be a more viable option.
October 11th, 2010 at 10:25 AM ^
....does not ease the effect of not having an effective MLB. The MLB still has to make the correct reads during the play, as we saw during the game when Roh was on the line. They still gashed us for some runs that they shouldn't have if Ezeh had filled the hole he was supposed to, and not run away from it.
October 10th, 2010 at 10:30 PM ^
In my limited time as an MGoBlogger, I have never seen someone lose this many points in a single thread...AdverseVillain is getting gashed just like our secondary does every weekend
October 10th, 2010 at 10:51 PM ^
The legal theory bit is the clue you've gone full on retard (no offense to retards).
<br>But a good reminder: there are many casual M fans that like to be a winner and talk shit. They too, believe they know what they're talking about and don't understand the full extent of their full retard.
<br>In offices across Michigan tmw, they begin breeding. So prepare.
October 10th, 2010 at 11:59 PM ^
yeah legal theory seems vastly unpopular. should have known...
October 10th, 2010 at 11:04 PM ^
adversevillian your ideas in this dytopian commune on this little piece of the internet, will cause you to approach the -99999 pt neg bang I received when I called sparty fans a now banned word on the mgoboard. God speed.
October 10th, 2010 at 11:57 PM ^
well hopefully I can recover by the end of the year. I am getting smoked though thats for sure.
October 10th, 2010 at 10:55 PM ^
I am interested to see the UFR... Kovacs was pulled up on a blitz on both of the TD runs... Line was not the problem... Linebackers followed the play left and out of position... Counter cut back and right were the LBs should have been... then Gordon is all by himself because Kovacs is behind the line of scrimmage watching the play from behind...
He is the best tackler we have in the backfield, and in my opinion we need to keep him back there to save our bacon...
Kovacs blitzing is a defensive play calling issue... would rather see Gordon blitz and keep Kovacs back to make the tackle...
October 10th, 2010 at 11:36 PM ^
THANKS, CHIEF!
October 11th, 2010 at 8:21 AM ^
The 3-3-5 works just fine if you have the athletes that fit the scheme, and the guys need to know there assignments!
October 11th, 2010 at 9:14 AM ^
that was a 10-2-0. They gashed us the way they did because we came out of our base.
October 11th, 2010 at 11:39 AM ^
You want Craig Roh to be a situational pass rusher? You do realize he is arguably our second best defensive player, right?