I am currently split between the fire Gerg camp and the youth is to blame camp. The thing I've been pondering is if Gerg was to be fired after the season, are their any other DC's out there who have experience running the 3-3-5. It seems to be with the personel we have recruited the past few seasons we are to thin on the DL and have to many hybird safteys to run another system. So my question is if Gerg gets canned, who would be the primary canidates to be the new DC?
I guess this is proof that I am wrong about a 1000-point posting threshold.
1500 it is.
While this may not have been phrased in the best possible way it could still be an interesting disccussion. My go at it may have been something like:
What 3-3-5 D-Coordinators are there in the FBS and what are the numbers for their respective defenses in the past few years? Has anyone noticed certain position strengths that correlate with good defenses?
This way the discussion can be informative to us as Michigan fans as well as leaving out any undesired negative connotations. On the other hand I may have just totally misinterpreted your statement in that you meant that if you are going to post, you should have already done this research.
My bad I did a pretty shitty job wording it, you got the jist of what I was getting at though. This wasn't meant to be a bashing/ negative post, im just curious if there are any DC's out there that are running a 3-3-5 with positive results.
I'm not a defensive guru or anything, and I don't have a laundry list of coaches/teams that run a 3-3-5. What I will add though, is that I believe RR and GERG when they say the "3-3-5" concern is really overblown. Every team, regardless of their "defense type" has various packages where they rush 3 or 4 guys, various blitz packages etc. All this changes depending on what the offense is showing, how many yards before a 1st down, field position etc.
It's not really the "defense type" that necessarily matters, it's the play calling and execution on each play. I think what RR has been saying all along is that there's not all that much Michigan can do (e.g. run more complex schemes) because they don't have the personnel/experience combination just yet.
That being said isn't WV still running a 3-3-5, and haven't they been pretty successful with it?
gsimmons in preregistration MgoBlog days:
"It's not the X's and O's, it's the Jimmies and the Joes" - meaning that the scheme is a whole lot less important than the quality of the players executing it.
Good players can make any defensive scheme work, and no scheme is going to make lousy players look good.
I miss that dude... he definitely was on point with his football knowledge.
I am stealing that saying from you for use at my watching party next Saturday night. It will be attended by a bunch of guys who soak their brains in MSM all week.
It will shut them up immediately and hopefully for at least a quarter or two. Nice.
but to all the "you didn't have to read it when you saw the title" crowd, the title here is not very descriptive as to what the take was going to be or where the thread was going.
If it was titled "3-3-5 DC Replacements" it would have been descriptive enough to keep the folks who are sick of the firing topic away while giving the others who want to discuss it some more the forum to do it .
Just my $0.02.
I do believe Alabama runs the 3-3-5 as their base d. More often than not it gets changed to a 4-2-5.
I am sick of people doing this. Mutiple times a day I come on and someone does this to someone's thread. I love the Mgoblog and think it is the best blog anyone can go to. But it is still just a blog so can some people lighten up a little.
I want that
I am so getting one of those for my 6 year old step-son. I will achieve God-like status with a simple swipe of my CC.....
Im 25 and if my parents got me that for christmas, I would treat them like gods.
This might be why I'm still single....
Single? Dude, the best time for buying things like this shirt is when you're married - you've got no one left to impress! That is why I am buying one in about 5 seconds. Hahaha.
My 6 year old's head will explode when he sees that. +1 for dad
This is probably the greatest thing ever.
Rather than point total, maybe date joined? The more recent the user joined, the longer he/she has to wait to create a thread?
Isn't there a positive correlation between points and date joined? If anything, I would think date joined is a worse metric to use. Doesn't show how active/substantive you've been on the site.
I have been a member for 2.25 years and have 52 points so no correlation - go figure. I read all the time but rarely post and certainly understand why people get negged and some don't. I personally don't like the 1000 pt threshold b/c it prevents people like me from starting a thread (if I would choose to); but, then again, I like the idea of some barrier to weed out the riff-raff and 1000pts is probably as good as any other.
Submit to this blogs standards or face soical suicide.
FWIW......I only recently "joined" the site but in reality had been on it for several years. Candidly I didnt know how to make one of those cool avitars all the popular posters had and until I figured it out I didnt want to be made fun of.
Sad but true.
Maybe if you don't want to reply, just completely ignore these types of threads, and perhaps they will die a quick death.
I thought this was actually a good topic compared to other ones. I agree with maizenblue92, some people are taking a holier than thou approach to these boards. If you don't like the topic, just don't talk about it, or come up with something better.
In the mean time, lets be elitiest, ethnocentric, dehumanizing, and cruel.
This is seriously not a big issue. In this age of spread offenses, tons of teams are using five DBs. The main question is whether to use a 3-3-5 and 4-2-5. Like most teams, we alternate between the two.
mind that RR likes the 3-5-3, if they use four man fronts against power teams! I just wished they blitzed alot more. the 3-5-3 can be lethal if you blitz periodically. The offense would never know where the rush is coming from. Obviously Gerg is cautious because of all the youth on defense. Hopefully we start seeing some pressure put on opposing qb's.
The 3-3-5 Odd Stack can be an effective defense by using speed and aggressiveness to combat superior size, athleticism, and depth. Once the proper players are positioned on the roster, the Defensive Coordinator is responsible for providing the creativity for the defense to keep opposing offenses confused and guessing.
Edit: I argue that we are still lacking the proper players so it is hard to critique GR's creativity at this juncture.
Did you not see what happened to Floyd when we blitzed late in the Iowa game? That will come in time when we have CBs that have more game played than fingers. I find is interesting that during the Iowa game the annoucers were reporting how RR admired Iowa's consistency with the coaching staff and the lack of turnover. To me that was speaking specifically about GREG.
I have friends that are Sparty friends and up until this year, they would tell you they wanted nothing more than to run their DC out of town (Narduzzi?). Hmmm wonder what they think of him now that Sparty's D has depth and a stud player (Jones).
Yes, players are the ones that make coaches look smart....
A little off subject, and I know this has been brought up in the past..........but woud Mike Trgovac have any interest. He had some very good defense years in Carolina. It would restore some of the Michigan men pipeline as well.