It should be Michigan and Wisconsin for the first two 2 seeds. Let's hope for a good tournament run.
And 1-seed more likely?!
Almost impossible. Definitely not likely. Florida, Wichita St., and Arizona are pretty much locks to be seeded ahead of Michigan. Almost no way we can pass Kansas. Even passing Duke or Virginia will be difficult because one of them will probably do well in the ACC tourney. One of the ACC teams (possibly even Syracuse) is probably going to end up a 2 seed. Our best bet is to have a good B1G Tourney showing, beat Wisconsin, and sneak ahead of Villanova and Virginia/Duke.
The one way I can see Kansas dropping is if there are concerns on their center Joel emblid is more hurt than originally thought. He missed the West Virginia game they lost and this news recently came out from espn analyst Fran fraschilla today on twitter.
@franfraschilla: KU's Joel Embiid headed to California today to see back specialist tomorrow. Can't be great news even if precautionary.
Has lost 2 of their last 3 games both against unranked teams. They also have 8 losses, so another loss in the Big 12 conference tournament would be 9 losses which would neutralize their resume.
Hope he gets better...
... mid-April or so.
I meant more likely now after Virginia lost (from a point that was incredibly unlikely in the first place, if that makes any sense).
Ya, but still pretty far off. We would have to jump Wisco and Arizona. If we were to beat Wisco in the tourney, then we could pass them, but Arizona would have to have a dud in the tourney for us to pass them. I haven't checked the recent rankings for the ACC teams (Duke, Syracuse, and Virginia) either. It is becoming more plausible, but still quite unlikely. But think of how a 2 seed would look after our start to the season. Pretty darned good.
Honestly the potential 1-seeds aren't much more intimidating than the potential 4-seeds. I don't think it makes much of a difference whether we are a 1, 2, or 3. I'd rather be the highest 2 or 3, and get a geographical advantage.
Let's hope they lose tonight. That'll help us even more.
The two seed in the Midwest would be prime. Let's go Nebrasketball!!!
Either way, if NEB loses tonight or we beat them in the BTT finals (which I think will be the finals), then we pass them. Things are setting up for a possible #1 seed, but more likely, the top #2 seed.
Arizona Florida Wichita St locks for 1's then Kansas Villanova Wisconsin Michigan fighting for the last 1 in that order with Virginia Syracuse Duke not far behind
At this point, you're probably looking at Wichita State, Arizona, Florida and VIllanova as 1-seeds in the tournament. Villanova's position might be the least secure among them, but I think the only potential competition for their spot - probably Wisconsin if anyone - will still get one of the #2 seeds. We're probably 3rd or 4th in line for the least secure #1 seed, meaning disaster would have to strike a few teams - Syracuse, Kansas and Wisconsin, as well as some #1 teams - before we likely snuck into the discussion. We're pretty much on target for a 2-seed at this point. Not impossible, but not very probable, in my opinion.
Michigan, I believe, now controls their own path to a 2-seed. However, they will probably need to win Friday and Saturday to stay there unless VA, Duke, Syracuse, Wisconsin, and Kansas all do worse.
And would be a great place to start this year's run.
Thought is that KS is still the MW #2
Can someone explain why Wisconsin is predicted ahead of us as a 2 seed? There must be a legit reason, but I haven't heard it yet.
Their non-conference wins of Florida, Virginia, and St. Louis.
Wisconsin has a very impressive set of non-conference wins
Because in non-conference they beat Florida, Virginia, and St. Louis and we beat... Florida State?
We have two bad losses (Charlotte and Indiana) and they have one (Northwestern).
Really, the difference between being where we are now and in the mix for a #1 seed is the loss to Arizona. Not that it was a bad loss, but our best win on the season is at Wisconsin. Wisconsin got us back, plus they have three other wins that look as good or better.
You can't really say Indiana is only a bad loss for us and not for them. I do think they are ahead of us as of right now, but it wouldn't be hard for me to see us jumping them should we beat them in the BTT.
McGary breathed too hard on a Arizona player and got called for a foul, allowing them free throws for the winning score. That would have been an impressive win for the resume.
Totally legit call... Mitch didn't brush his teeth that morning so his breath was pretty bad.
I still think we need Wisco to lose today, or to the finals in the BTT to Michigan, in order for us to pass them and get the #2 in the Midwest (Wichita State's region).
How about we win the big ten tourney and get a one seed.
Villanova has the fourth one-seed pretty much locked up if they win the Big East conference tournament. Wisconsin maybe has an argument but hopefully Michigan doesn't let them.
Michigan vs. Wichita St. right now on a neutral floor, who you got?
I doubt the answer you get will be much of a shocker.
I see what you did there.
they did beat Tennessee and Eastern Tennessee culinary academy.....
but Witch St can ball. Hopefully we won't have to find out as I'd take us if hitting shots early (as opposed to waiting until down 10+ early like we often do) but their good game vs our average game would be a loss, IMO.
Well this same team did go to the FINAL FOUR last year, so they can obviously ball regardless of their schedule this year.
obviously. I don't think they are as strong as last year though. Record or not, I think they were slightly better last year and an easier schedule has them undefeated. Yet, obviously they can "ball" ha. I'd just pick us if we started strong or each team brought their best game. A win but close.
Could become the first 1 seed to be upset in the first round? Or whatever they are calling the round-of-64 these days...
I think people are under rating Wichita St quite a bit. They're a ton better than Gonzaga was last year as a 1 seed.
depending on region, a 1-4 seed are not much different. You obviously want the highest seed for ease but teams like Oklahoma St and such are going to be horrible "gifts" to teams in their region seeded in the top 4. Tons of quality teams newly recovering from injuries, finally starting to gel, etc that are going to be lower seeds. Those teams that on a good day for them/average day for you, can run you out of the building. So, no way we get to a 1 seed but 2-4 is not a huge difference. Burke half courters aside, we proved that last year.
"As I said", no I didn't notice
meaning someone else said it. Different than "as I said". Or I'm confused about what you're referring to. Either way, what a waste of time on your end ha. imo, of course.
Rank the following teams, here sorted by the average of RPI and kenpom rank:
|Team||RPI||kenpom||RPI/kenpom avg.||RPI NCSOS||kenpom NCSOS||avg. NCSOS||Last 12||vs. Top 50|
Too many teams man
I'd actually rather grab the top 2 seed than the 4th 1 seed. The last 1 seed plays the best 2 seed--meaning we'd probably be out east playing someone like Kansas or Villanova as the 2 if we somehow got the last 1.
If we're the top 2 seed--we're probably in the midwest region playing against Wichita State as the 1.
I'll take scenario #2.
We don't seem to be getting any talk with regards to a 2 seed
Lol we are pretty much a solid 2 everywhere except Lunardi/ESPN
b/c he hasn't updated since Thursday.
Just said Michigan is now a #2 seed and Virginia is now a #3.
I have him enough shit on twitter about it. May have done it to shut me up