No prediction for Mcdowell?
247's Steve Lorenz player predictions for Michigan recruits
Obvious disclaimer: much can happen before signing day. They are predictions, but they do look promising.
6 other 24/7 analysts all have Michigan as their prediction, including several in the last week. Especially fun when one of the Bucknuts guys is calling it. FSU analyst is one of them also, so it's not just midwest guys blowing smoke.
Shurburtt predicts he will be blue.
...Is an elite SEC-level DL. Coach Mattison wants to get pass rush with 4, he's certainly recruiting the talent to do so.
The defensive line is shaping up like the offensive line. Tons of talent and depth. Taco could be 1b along side Clark by mid season at wde. You ad two elite sde to the mix next year...could be a fun 2015 season, when these past 3 classes are seniors, juniors and sophomores.
That's a Michigan level DL. Expectations raised.
nah nah na na!
In fairness, 6 of the 7 others who predicted where Hand would go - most of whom are more national/objective/credible than Lorenz - predicted that he'll end up at Virginia Tech. Rivals' Mike Farrell also said this morning that as of today he thinks VA Tech is #1 for Hand (and Michigan is #2).
You shut your mouth when you're talking to me, Turd.
And we end up with Harris, Hand, Peppers, and McDowell....I think Dantonio would have a nervous breakdown.
I think all of college football would have a nervous breakdown if we got all those guys.
While I certainly hope he's right, Lorenz has historically been more bullish than accurate when it comes to predicting that recruits will come to Michigan.
He can't always be right. It's called a prediction for a reason. He did predict Derrick Green way back when everyone else counted us out.
Taylor Lewan looks so different without his pads on.
Granted he was correct on Drake Harris...just 9 or so months too early.
It's a fair criticism. It's hard not to predict optimistically when you only cover one team. Still learning, but getting better.
Still, people always remember the ones you miss, and not the ones you get right. Like Drake Harris. Oh wait.
Surprised to see Tommy Doles predicted to NW.
Things have been going in that direction for a few weeks, it seems. Doles had been considered a Michigan lean for a long time (basically since he got the offer) but hasn't committed yet, so Michigan might just not be what he's looking for. Otherwise, why wait? He would fit in well on Northwestern's offensive line, in my opinion, perhaps more so than at Michigan right now. I think Rich Rodriguez would have loved a guy like Doles with all the zone blocking schemes, which is a lot of what Northwestern runs.
Thanks for the update. I guess I just figured that the Drake Harris commitment would help in that regard.
I have read that they are friends but not really close enough to influence each others decisions.
My thoughts (and probably others), we probably have enough Guard types anyway. That's an incredible depth chart to look at penetrating in his class, especially with Cole already in. I think we need a center and more tackles.
Wouldn't blame him a bit for the school either - I was watching the NW spring game, and they showed their new facility being constructed. Right on Lake Michigan and absolutely stunning. Wouldn't mind seeing NW becoming Stanford-like for the B1G.
Well, they were/are recruiting Doles for center, so that would fit your vision.
If he is more of a zone blocking ninja, wouldn't that be a mutually beneficial decision?
247 is pulling ahead of the other services. First they hired all the good writers away, and now they are innovating.
Agreed. I find myself using 247 more than Scout or ESPN, and I have a Rivals subscription. Between Rivals and 247, I don't really need the other two...and I may switch to 247 before too long. I'm not a big fan of the mods at The Wolverine, and the message board there kind of sucks.
I used to really despise 247 but they're improving at a steady pace. I've been a member since they got Aquaman/Steve on board. I still have a rivals subscription but I really don't know why. I hardly ever read anything there anymore. And don't get me started on the board.
I still have my subscription to Rivals as well but wonder to myself with each passing day why (well, I guess I know why, because it's paid through Jan '14).
If people complain about the mlive-ness of the mgoboard then I have no idea what they would say about The Fort. I barely ever venture in other than to read the ITFs, and even then those are linked on the front page.
I think they lost a lot when Helmholdt left. Good for him, though, getting that Midwest Recruiting Analyst gig.
Agreed with all of this, except Scout is worth the subscription for Sam Webb, in my opinion.
I hate when people use "insider", so I guess I'll just say I feel like he knows a lot of good people. TJB...hit and miss.
To recap, here's everyone he predicted to Michigan:
- Alex Bars
- Juwann Bushell-Beatty
- Garrett Dickerson
- Da'Shawn Hand
- Drake Harris
- Daniel Helm
- Brady Pallante
- Jabrill Peppers
- Kyron Watson
- Parrker Westphal
- KJ Williams
He changed his previous prediction of Tommy Doles to Michigan, and now thinks he will go to Northwestern. Also predicts:
- Elijah Hood to UNC
- Jamarco Jones to OSU
- Lawrence Marshall to MSU
Also Doles and Michigan might be cooling on each other. Michigan is fine, anyway. They will get JBB and are looking good for Alex Bars
Bars and JBB plus already having Cole would that wrap up the O line recruiting for this class?
Have to admit I'd be OK with Doles going to NW. He's a solid player, but not somebody to get really excited about like Kugler last year.
We have a smaller class this year, so I'm hoping for more elite players. Seems like a good kid that will be an asset to any program, so if he does choose Michigan it will a solid, yet unspectactular, pick-up.
Also Steve isn't being a homer with those picks. Those are all extremely realistic picks. That's just the level the coaches are recruiting at this year
Everyone is 100% to OSU until Meyer deems them unworthy.
The last I heard from him he declared Notre Dame his leader. I'm surprised to see UNC up there.
He recently said that he thought about things and is leaning towards staying close to home now.
Wow, I'll take that and whatever other 13 or so guys we get. That would be fantastic.
I can't start a thread, but Dan Hicks now will be the voice of the Irish.
'Oh, Wide open'
Good, I'm sick of looking at Tom's freaky face.
Those predictions (along with McDowell) would pretty much finish the class, right? Also, with that quality (even though total numbers would be low) that class would certainly be Top 10 and quite likely Top 5, no?
It would probably be top ten, but if the class remains at 16 (which it likely won't, but still), then that might limit it from being one of the top few classes.
It would look something like USC's class last year... before in imploded in a hilarious and well-deserved pile of Peace-Outs
Agreed, but anyone who was all "herp derp Michigan didn't even have a top 5 class" I would just type out "Da'Shawn Hand and Jabrill Peppers."
...and Drake Harris.
Kalen Ballage and Artavis Scott are good bets to be part of this class as well.
Artavis Scott? I'm especially curious with him because of the potential George Campbell influence.
No predictions yet, but Michigan is listed as "Warm" along with the 3 big Florida schools and Notre Dame. Not claiming to be an insider, but I follow Miami recruiting as well and he grew up a Canes fan. He tempered that by saying that wouldn't affect their position before they offered, but they'll be a player here. As much as Miami has been the laughing stock on the field the past few years, Golden has put together a strong start to the 2014 class, already bringing in 3 4-star offensive lineman and a 4-star running back. Also has a couple 3 stars - younger brother of a current lineman and a dual-threat with offers from Tennessee and Nebraska. Plus, that staff focuses on Florida like Brady Hoke focuses on the Midwest - they want to lock him down. The biggest advantage Michigan has to offer is their depth chart at WR (although that may be evolving into a position of strength) and their high profile QBs.
Kevin Olsen will also be a nice selling point for Golden to potential receivers. He had very positive reviews around whatever All-America bowl he was involved with.
By all accounts he had his best visit to Michigan to date this past weekend.
100% prediction for USC. He's the #3 cornerback in the composite rankings. Interesting that they have Peppers at "Athlete", even though I'm almost certain he's said he wants to play DB in college.
Westphal is the #13 CB, with Damon Webb (Cass Tech) at #9
Any idea if the coaches are still pursuing Webb? Would be nice to keep the Cass Tech pipeline open.
Open? That pipeline isn't closing any time soon regardless of Webb.
Yeah, didn't he commit to OSU to be "different"?
Agreed. As long as Thomas WIlcher is there coaching, Michigan will be just fine with Cass Tech prospects.
Agreed. As long as Thomas WIlcher is there coaching, Michigan will be just fine with Cass Tech prospects.
He was the Colerain high school coach here for years. They are on of the ohio power house teams. He left Colerain to go to ohio.
I think Peppers could play safety or cornerback (hell, he could play WR or RB, too), so perhaps that's why he's listed as an ATH.
...thinks the reason why lawrence marshall is not a UM lean because UM is currently high on mcdowell and hand...is that true or am i being arrogant?
I think that's mostly true. Marshall likes MSU and UM a lot from what I can tell. But Hand and McDowell are going to take precedent over him as long as they're interested.
Don't they all play or are ticketed for different positions? Marshall is a WDE, Hand is a 5-tech/SDE, and McDowell is a 3-tech or possibly a 5-tech also, I believe. But, you are probably right that the coaches are putting the full court press on Hand and McDowell because we took Ojemudia and Taco in the last two classes with Frank Clark being a Jr so there isn't an immediate need at the WDE spot. Hand could probably also play there I guess. However, I think Marshall also really likes MSU which has put out some solid D-linemen lately and isn't enamored with Michigan. See is committment to Ohio; obviously, he likes Michigan but he isn't dying to be here and is taking his time.
take another QB in this class if they don't get a JUCO/Transfer?
My guess is no, but I'm not sure if it would be an advantage to take another.
Unless Devin blows up and goes pro, I'd guess not.
The coaches are staying in contact with some quarterbacks, so I wouldn't be totally surprised...
Great, GREAT looking nucleus here.
Now that UM is well stocked with above average talent, it's time to reel in the elite talent.
Given where we were coming from when he came in - with 2 coaching changes in 3 seasons, tons of attrition, worst defense in the history of time, tons of bad press, being owned by in-state little brother and Ohio, lack of high-end talent, depth or upper-classmen on the roster - Hoke's first two classes were pretty damn amazing. You can't really look at the "process" class of 2011 - that class was an unfortunate casualty of the circimstances that then existed. But Hoke's first full class - 2012 - addressed numerous areas of critical need, and established good depth at most positions, mostly with high 3* and 4* talent. While that class lacked truly "elite" recruits, it was well above average.
In the 2013 class, Hoke contined to reel in more high-level talent, landing several higher-4* types, addressing the remaining areas of true need, and adding many great players that will lay the foundation for our future success. And, aside from forever-commit Morris (who, barring illness would likely have remained as a 5*), Hoke brought in the top RB in the country (along with another top 10ish RB in Smith). The 2013 class was a step up from the already good 2012 class.
This next class looks like it will continue the upward trajectory. With the commits that we already have (including a likely consensus 5* WR), and the kids that we are in on, we may really be looking at an influx of elite talent at the skill positions over the next year or so. Combine that with the high-level of "trench" talent that we have been stock-piling in the past few classes, and the future is certainly bright.
If McDowell and Hand do end up at Michigan like he predicts, it's easy to see why he thinks Marshall will end up at MSU.
Glad to see us in on NJ recruits (as a native Jerseyan). Hotbed of recruiting talent, having Rutgers coming to the B1G must be helpful for reaching out to this talent, knowing that UM will come to NJ every 2 years if they end up in the same division.
Are we really that high with Dickerson? He's a great prospect, but this is the first I've heard that we were his favorite. Is this a Steve-only impression or have others been echoing that?
We may also have a shot at 5 star DT Andrew Brown who plans to take an official visit
I'll take that !!!!!!!
I know I'm late to the party but this new 24/7 stuff is awesome. Just lost a couple hours of my life immersed in it. Lots of good potential position pairings too. Parrker and Peppers, Hand and Mcdowell, Drake and KJ, etc. Excited about our future with TE's too, with Funchess, Butt, and now maybe Helm.
Agree with whomever said it earlier; this class, if predictions come true, would be very similar to USC's last year prior to the exodus.
Also curious about some kids not on the list, especially Adoree Jackson and Artavis Scott.