21- 20 -17-14 -12 - 6
This is the descending # of points M has scored against Sparty since 2008. We have not scored a TD against Sparty since the 2011 season (3 years ago). Does the trend continue? After watching OSU destroy Rutgers yesterday I say yes, but then Sparty had trouble in Bloomington so I am cautiously optimistic. Thoughts?
GO BLUE!
October 20th, 2014 at 7:08 AM ^
October 20th, 2014 at 7:09 AM ^
Indiana's defense is terrible and their offense was starting their 6th string QB. Purdue also did well against them. I'm more concerned with the Ohio game than this game.
October 20th, 2014 at 7:19 AM ^
October 20th, 2014 at 7:25 AM ^
How does that pertain to the 2014? Who gives a **** about the past?
October 20th, 2014 at 7:28 AM ^
October 20th, 2014 at 7:41 AM ^
So if Michigan scores 7 or more points and breaks this cycle Saturday, albeit in a four-TD rout, does Hoke get another of his moral victories ala Ohio State last year, the kind of moral victories a certain subset of this fanbase seem to be just dying for an excuse to give him?
October 20th, 2014 at 7:47 AM ^
I'm not sure about your logic there. Sparty had a tiny bit of trouble on the road, and we will be on the road when we face them. How is this in our favor come Saturday?
October 20th, 2014 at 7:52 AM ^
Penn State being awful and the bye week offered a nice feel-good reprieve from an otherwise historically bad season. However, it was more sleight-of-hand than reality and this week reality bites.
October 20th, 2014 at 7:52 AM ^
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October 20th, 2014 at 8:06 AM ^
I like to hope that the reality of knowing he is likely coaching for his job is enough to instill a major sense of urgency in Hoke, in terms of game-planning and getting his players motivated. But I can't help but feel this strong inkling that reality takes a lengthy period to set in with this guy.
October 20th, 2014 at 8:08 AM ^
Why do people keep acting like MSU struggled against Indiana? They won by 39 points. Does the defense look as good as last year? Absolutely not, but the offense looks much better.
October 20th, 2014 at 8:14 AM ^
Indiana made that D look bad at times. Their QB was very bad, however. I will give them credit for running the ball extremely well. Langford and Hill were both excellent from the bits I watched.
October 20th, 2014 at 9:26 AM ^
Again, Michigan State won by more than 5 touchdowns in this game. It's easy to nitpick and throw in the "at times" label, but we need to recognize that we're criticizing a team for beating someone by 39 points. The margin of victory was more than double what Indiana scored. When you take a step back and look at it from that perspective, why we're even bringing up the thought that MSU struggled last weekend is beyond me.
Also, for as "bad" as that defense looked on Saturday, they shut out IU in the 2nd Half. I think people are massively overreacting to a relatively competitive 1st Half. Remember when Michigan hung around with MSU in the 1st Half last year? Have yet to see anybody argue that one was a close game.
Edit: Just wanted to add this little tidbit. During the last 4 seasons, just 3(!!!) teams have managed to score 35 points against MSU. Those were 2014 Oregon, 2011 Wisconsin, and 2010 Alabama. So, since that Big Ten title game in 2011, only Oregon (at home) could manage 35 points against the Spartans. Obviously, this is a flawed analysis as I'm comparing multiple years here, but I just want to point out how difficult it has been just to score 35 points against MSU and, in this case, IU would have needed 39 just to tie. My point here is that even if 39 points doesn't sound that insane to score - it should - it is very, very tough to put that many up against a good team.
October 20th, 2014 at 9:37 AM ^
and Michigan scored 63 on Indiana last year and Iowa scored 45 on them this year. Indiana's D is like our offense. It says nothing about MSU's offense.
October 20th, 2014 at 8:19 AM ^
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October 20th, 2014 at 8:21 AM ^
I've been expecting Norfleet to finally break one too, but three or four in a game is asking a bit much.
October 20th, 2014 at 8:25 AM ^
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October 20th, 2014 at 8:34 AM ^
will be the key... says Ira and listeners.
Makes sense, the question is... can we do that
October 20th, 2014 at 9:07 AM ^
October 20th, 2014 at 8:55 AM ^
From the very first game this season, I walked away from the Big House saying, "We're just not that good." I know that our players recieved stars from people who don't coach to support the whole supposition that our team is really talented, but I just don't agree. I think we have a few guys on either side of the ball who are really B1G Div 1 starters, and the rest are just not very good. It kind of reminds me of when Florida scrapped their scouting department and relied solely on Rivals and other recruting sites for who was the best prospects. They have never recovered from that, and I wonder if we fell in a similar trap. The classes look top 5-10 on paper, but these recruiting services are NOT COACHES. They really don't know what the hell they are talking about.
I think we get crushed like La Cucaracha. 35-6 MSUOctober 20th, 2014 at 8:56 AM ^
Will Sparty have the garbage blowing on the field again this year? The hot dog sleeve tornadoes in the endzones last year were kinda cool looking.
/S
October 20th, 2014 at 9:21 AM ^
October 20th, 2014 at 9:02 AM ^
October 20th, 2014 at 9:22 AM ^
It'll be somewhat like last year. Defense will keep it respectable for maybe half the game, maybe come up with a turnover. But unless its a pick six, we'll get zero points out of it. MSU's defense will play lights out for 4 quarters, although they wouldn't have to try that hard considering the dumpster fire that is our offense. At some point in the 3rd quarter, our defense is gassed and demoralized. They can't stay off the field to rest long enough because we constantly go 3 and out. My money says we'll constantly be be put in bad field position too.
Being backed up constantly inside our own 20 yard line doesn't bode well when we have to punt away and give Sparty a short field to work with. This is one ugly game by the 4th quarter. 42-10. Touchdown is scored in garbage time when Gardner really just throws up a Hail Mary on 4th and 25.
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October 20th, 2014 at 9:38 AM ^
Well aren't you the sunny optimist! :)
Can't really blame you
October 20th, 2014 at 11:24 AM ^
October 20th, 2014 at 9:27 AM ^
Save us Captain Comeback
October 20th, 2014 at 9:31 AM ^
October 20th, 2014 at 9:38 AM ^
I just hope the Brady gets to clap. I also hope we don't get EMU'd by Sparty. 42-10. (defensive TD)
October 20th, 2014 at 9:46 AM ^
So if we score 7pts we're trending up, right?
October 20th, 2014 at 9:50 AM ^
If Michigan had played Purdue and Indiana the way State did, people would be saying how overrated we were at number 5. Anybody else in the top 10 would depants them like Oregon did.
October 20th, 2014 at 9:50 AM ^
MICH is going to MICH all over the michigan state school of agriculture. I bet Connor Cook can grow a mean green bean.
October 20th, 2014 at 9:59 AM ^
The offense this year is challenged and that doesn't help anything going into this game. They will do good to score at least two TDs at MSU. I'm predicting one TD and maybe 1-2 FGs. They will have to hope for a season best performace from the defense to win. My only hope is that the coaches throw everything at this game because that's probably their best chance, they have nothing to lose. More conservative play calling and it's a guaranteed loss.
October 20th, 2014 at 10:04 AM ^
This is the part where we say "Beat Sparty" repeatedly all fucking week, watch the game on Saturday for about twelve minutes, and then get horribly, shit-faced, sloppy drunk and decide it wise mow the lawn in the dark with a mild head injury.
My prediction: MSU is going to roger Michigan all afternoon. This is not because of superior talent. Michigan has more 4 and 5 star players than MSU has, and this has been true dating back to 2008 and well before.
The difference is that MSU has had football coaches who actually coach and develop football players better. They're not imaginitive, but they're strong in coaching fundamentals. If you think this fact is going to be overcome by Michigan over a by week period, thenforget it. That's delusional.
Sure, okay, yeah.... I expect a few Sparty fuck ups on Saturday. They haven't played one game this year without some really dumb mistakes, but nothing to cost them a game. At least I'm not pretending those errors equal a Michigan upset. That'd be horseshit.
There is not one matchup of player or team that favors Michigan this Saturday. This is why I'm expecting the worst loss of the year, and quite possibly another shutout. Expect a lot of "Hold Me" posts, while UM fan visits to puppy and kitty cat webpages skyrocket on Saturday afternoon and Sunday. I'll be there with you, or maybe the emergency room. I haven't decided.
October 20th, 2014 at 10:08 AM ^
My prediction is that the "want" will be there and it may be close for 1-2 quarters but eventually MSU with physically more mature and physically superior players will pull away. It will probably not be a close final score. It'll be the final nail in Hoke's UM head coaching career.
October 20th, 2014 at 10:16 AM ^
Just how many nails does one need?
October 20th, 2014 at 10:33 AM ^
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October 20th, 2014 at 10:15 AM ^
with no lube, either.
"It'll be the final nail in Hoke's UM head coaching career." — you're right about that. I'd love to see Hoke succeed here, but a loss of any sort is going to bring the situation into focus, so to speak.
October 20th, 2014 at 10:02 AM ^
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October 20th, 2014 at 12:13 PM ^
do we practive well because our players are practicing against each other?
October 20th, 2014 at 12:15 PM ^
do we practive well because our players are practicing against each other?
October 20th, 2014 at 10:48 AM ^
American college football, the streak can only continue on to 2018 at worst.
21-20-17-14-12-6-5-4-3-2-0-(it can only go up from here!)
October 20th, 2014 at 10:56 AM ^
Maybe, just maybe Michigan will be right on Saturday.
October 20th, 2014 at 11:04 AM ^
WTF? How many times has this information been posted? We know the points. Stop already.
October 20th, 2014 at 11:06 AM ^
Yep, perfect year to reverse the scoring trend, what with fielding the worst offense in Michigan history this year, that's so bad it would be considered the worst offense in the MAC...
Trend won't improve much this year, and we'll soon be firing our second coach in a row who throws a dart at a board in terms of any concept associated with the other side of the ball that he isn't familiar with.
Can't believe a coach can earn over $4M a year without the slightest concept about offense.
Biggest sham hire ever. Oh, but nice guy though, blah blah.