2016 Michigan RB Recruiting
We currently have five 2016 commits who could potentially play the RB position, but 3 of whom might project to other positions:
NAME |
Pos (247) |
HT | WT |
247 RATG |
247 COMP |
NOTES |
Matt Falcon | RB | 6'1 | 215 | 3 star | 4 star |
Talented RB who is out for season w/ knee injury for 2nd straight year |
Chris Evans | APB | 5'11 | 186 | 4 star | 4 star |
Good runner, but more impressive WR film. May be most valuable in the slot |
Vic Viramontes | ATH | 6'2 | 220 | 4 star | 3 star |
Excellent athlete, very good runner. Could project to any of LB/QB/FB/RB/HB |
Kiante Enis | RB | 6'1 | 200 | 3 star | 3 star | Decent runner. Seems like a "depth" recruit to compliment Falcon |
Kingston Davis | FB | 6'1 | 225 | 3 star | 3 star | Could be a pure FB like Kerridge/Houma or a more of a hybrid like Isaac |
I'm wondering if you guys think we're all done recruiting the RB position for 2016, or if we're still going after any targets in light of:
- Matt Falcon being out for the season with injury for the 2nd staight year
- The absence of an explosive blue chip/consensus 4/5-star pure RB type in either the 2015 or 2016 class
- Karan Higdon being our only RB recruit in the 2015 class
- The fact that at least 3 of our 5 2016 potential RBs project to other positions.
- Any other factors I haven't listed or might not be aware of.
Note: Just to show that I'm not totally out of my mind and have *some* credibility when discussing the RB position, I correctly predicted the RB depth chart back in early July at a time when the majority expected either Green or Isaac to be the starter.
September 16th, 2015 at 12:42 PM ^
Should be room for five or six more RBs...
September 16th, 2015 at 12:44 PM ^
as taking a RB doesn't compromise our ability to take a 12th QB in 2016. /s
September 16th, 2015 at 1:03 PM ^
Given the unfortunate injury history with Falcon it would be good for us to pick up another back with explosive to-the-house speed. Evans has it but seems to fit better as a Harvin type. I really liked Boyd before we got Falcon and according to Sam Webb we are still recruiting him.
September 16th, 2015 at 1:14 PM ^
Didn't he just commit to Texas A+M a couple weeks ago?
September 16th, 2015 at 6:46 PM ^
Yes, he's committed to TAMU.
September 16th, 2015 at 2:59 PM ^
I get the impression that this staff emphasises vision and balance over "explosive to-the-house speed".
September 16th, 2015 at 12:45 PM ^
With Harbaugh, all things are possible. I would guess that RB recruiting is done though, unless you hear chatter to the likes of what you mentioned... one guy projected to another position or Falcon's injury projected as long term.
One thing I am pretty sure about, however, is that Viramontes probably won't end up at RB at any point in his career. He very well may, because Harbaugh and all, but I could see him at another offensive position (H-Back/TE) over RB. Though I can't recall his height...
That's the take from a complete non-expert who doesn't listen to Sam Webb.
September 16th, 2015 at 12:47 PM ^
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September 16th, 2015 at 12:49 PM ^
Beat me to it, but yeah, my feelings as well.
September 16th, 2015 at 1:06 PM ^
Don't be so sure. He's the same height and weight that Toby Gerhardt was coming out of high school (and the recruiting services also did not list Gerhardt as a RB). Also, Harbaugh offered Viramontes because "the way he runs reminds me of Colin Kaepernick." In other words, his running ability is what caught Harbaugh's eye. So we'll see. Either way, he's a tremendous athlete who should be a starter wherever he ends up.
September 16th, 2015 at 1:33 PM ^
I remember that quote as well. What that tells me, however, is that he's going to get his shot at QB. Who knows if that's Harbaugh's #1 intended position for him, especially with a guy like Peters coming in the same class, but he will most definitely get his shot. Harbaugh loves competition.
September 16th, 2015 at 2:24 PM ^
I don't know, but comparing Vic to another QB doesn't make him sound like a RB to me.
September 16th, 2015 at 12:56 PM ^
With Harbaugh, all things are possible.
Harbaugh 4:13
September 16th, 2015 at 1:34 PM ^
Guessing the negs have to do with my Sam Webb comment. Thought that might happen.
What I meant was I don't have the knowledge of those who listen to Sam Webb have... not that he's not worth listening to. I was making fun of my lack of recruiting wisdom. Guess I should neg myself too then.
I will say though that Falcon was probably Harbaugh's #1 RB in this class, so if for some reason that's a really bad thing then I definitely won't be surprised if he pushes for another one. Even more so if the ground game continues to get established; if I was a big burley man-child of a RB, Smith's last game against Oregon State would catch my interest for sure.
September 16th, 2015 at 12:46 PM ^
Falcon is basically the RB version of drake harris. He was a top 50 overall prospect until he got perpetually injured. Hopefully tolbert can save him like he seems to have done Harris
September 16th, 2015 at 1:56 PM ^
*knocks on wood as hard as he possibly can.
Cumong man.
September 16th, 2015 at 12:47 PM ^
"Decent runner" on Kiante Enis is probably my biggest disagreement here. I believe he is the fastest recruit that we have. It may not be clear where he plays, but he is a fantastic runner. Albeit against poor competition, didn't he lead the nation in rushing last year?
September 16th, 2015 at 12:48 PM ^
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September 16th, 2015 at 6:48 PM ^
Yeah, I think he's raw as a pure runner. He looks more like a wide receiver or safety to me.
September 16th, 2015 at 12:57 PM ^
It's possible you're talking about straight line speed, whereas I was referring to his overall ability to play the RB position. He looks to be very good, just not a "carry the team on your back every down blue chip" type IMO. I think he was brought in as a depth recruit in this class to compliment Falcon, who I think was higher on our target board.
September 16th, 2015 at 1:11 PM ^
September 16th, 2015 at 1:56 PM ^
He'd be the perfect type of player to do KO's or punts.
September 16th, 2015 at 2:10 PM ^
Enis and Chris Evans are both about 11 flat 100M guys.
Evans beat Enis in the 100M state finals last year.
September 16th, 2015 at 7:14 PM ^
huge difference bw straight line top end speed and the explosiveness and sudden change of direction to break ankles or dust defenders. enis may have the prior but certainly not the latter. huge difference.
and explosion to and thru the hole and into the 2nd level quick acceleration within several strides (provided they also show adequate vision and balance) should always outweigh ones ability to run really fast after the first 10 yards, at least at RB. though they dont currently have any backs (at least healthy) with either skill set
September 16th, 2015 at 12:48 PM ^
Given the volume here, I really hope that Vic is deployed in a different capacity. Obviously I trust Harbaugh and the staff, but I would rather see him at QB, LB, TE or maybe even Safety before he ended up at RB... JMO
September 16th, 2015 at 12:58 PM ^
I don't know that 6'2" is tall enough to play TE, even in a Harbaugh "put guys at positions no one else would ever think of" type offense.
September 16th, 2015 at 1:45 PM ^
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September 16th, 2015 at 12:49 PM ^
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September 16th, 2015 at 12:49 PM ^
Falcon and Enis both come in and redshirt as freshman.
Davis is FB, VV is a running QB/H-Back combo like Blake Bell at Oklahoma, Evans plays the Slot WR behind Canteen and Perry, like Canteen, Evans gets some run at DB as well.
September 16th, 2015 at 2:18 PM ^
You've got this all figured out. Please send your post to Jim so he doesn't have to waste precious practice time. He can just put these guys where they belong from day one. (Joking of course, but your suggestions are plausible.)
September 16th, 2015 at 12:50 PM ^
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September 16th, 2015 at 12:54 PM ^
You started drinking early today?
September 16th, 2015 at 2:25 PM ^
Probably has not stopped since last night.
September 16th, 2015 at 1:01 PM ^
I'm hoping Green doesn't transfer, but you never know... Don't think Isaac switches to WR, a running back who can catch is a different thing than a Receiver... I'm not sure why anyone would ever predict an injury... Ross-Douglas was a DB for a long time and it didn't work out for him, doubt he moves back there
September 16th, 2015 at 2:53 PM ^
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September 16th, 2015 at 6:50 PM ^
Criswell, is that you? Have you finally returned to us from the beyond?
September 16th, 2015 at 12:53 PM ^
Tim Tebow is 6'2/6'3 and around 240 (now)...
Desmond Morgan, who played QB in HS is 6'1, 235 now...but he was about the same size as Vic in high school.
September 16th, 2015 at 12:53 PM ^
Well, we need to go shopping for a new kicker....so maybe?
September 16th, 2015 at 12:56 PM ^
September 16th, 2015 at 1:28 PM ^
At RB I think we are OK for 2016 and will still have Isaac, Higdon , and Enis in 17 even if Falcon goes Medical down the road. I do like the 2017 GA kid we are leading for - another Smith type it seems - but would also be a good time to look for a speed back as well.
September 16th, 2015 at 1:02 PM ^
what you need to recruit.
Michigan is going to need a little bit of everything: Center, Guards, Tackles, FB, Punter, Kicker and a ton of players on defense.
September 16th, 2015 at 1:06 PM ^
I began to think you didn't have credibility, but you proved that you did with that amazing prediction. Now, I will agree to whatever you want
September 16th, 2015 at 1:08 PM ^
+1 for ambiguous sarcasm
September 16th, 2015 at 1:15 PM ^