mGrowOld

March 23rd, 2015 at 11:33 PM ^

To be fair Hoke didnt have any problem getting top recruits to visit.  Shit, he didnt really have any problem getting top recruits to commit.  There was a time, not to long ago, when we were #1 in the country star-ranking wise for current class of recruits before everything fell apart.

What he trouble doing was keeping them in the fold post committment once they saw the overall quality of coaching on the field.

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funkywolve

March 24th, 2015 at 12:08 AM ^

Hoke had some darn good recruiting classes too.  If you look at UM's average star/player it's pretty much Top 10-15 each year for the last 4-5 years.  When you look at the recruiting rankings for Big Ten teams over the 4-5 yrs, OSU and UM are 1 and 2...and 3rd place isn't even close to UM or OSU in terms of the number of 4 and 5 star recruits.  Hoke and his staff just couldn't develop the players once they go to AA.

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Tater

March 24th, 2015 at 1:23 AM ^

I like both of your posts pointing out that Hoke recruited well.  That is why I am so adamant that Harbaugh can win ten games out of the gate.  He has a lot of players who have been undercoached and had results that are nothing like what they envisioned when they signed their LOI's.  

Those players, especially upperclassmen, will do anything Harbaugh tells them they need to do to help them win.  They will respond to coaching extremely well and they will play like the top-notch recruits they were out of HS.  

Michigan's "climb back to the top" is going to be a lot faster than most people expect.

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Richard75

March 24th, 2015 at 8:56 AM ^

"Hoke recruited well" is misleading. OT, DE and of course QB weren't recruited very well in terms of either numbers or quality, and WR was a struggle quality-wise until Hoke's last class, who are SO/rFR.

The star average always looked great, but there's a difference between having that talent spread throughout the roster and having it concentrated at a couple of positions, as Hoke did.

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GoWings2008

March 24th, 2015 at 9:10 AM ^

on the roster right now, but that doesn't change the fact that Hoke was a very good recruiter.  There were other things behind some departures, aside from QB I'll admit.  Thats one I think we all wish he'd have not put all the eggs into one, or two, baskets.  Harbaugh seems to be filling those holes quickly though.

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Reader71

March 24th, 2015 at 12:47 PM ^

Not one of Hoke's QB has played out his eligibility. Lets not jump the gun on Morris, Speight, and Malzone. Holy God you guys are brutal. We might be a little thin at QB, but if any of those three works out, Hoke's recruiting will have been just fine at the position. As for the OT and DE, you are out and out wrong. OT has both quality and depth. DE is a bit thin, but there is quality there.

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BlueMarrow

March 24th, 2015 at 10:59 AM ^

The star rankings seem to indicate that previous talent was not being developed. Another explanation is that the former staff was not talented at player evaluation, and stocked a stable of over rated players. (I don't think that is true, but I'm not an expert like many on this site).

I don't think anyone can say the cupboard is bare. If, by "climb back to the top" you mean the top of the Big Ten, I agree that it probably won't take long. There's no reason for the team to not be as good as (gag) moo u in the next few years.

But, unitl Michigan has unequivocal pre-NFL talent, beginning at QB, LT, and TB, no one should expect miracles.

With that being said, I'm sure seeing a potential dynasty in the making. This thing will snowball before we know it, and it's going to be a beautiful thing to watch.

 

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CoachBP6

March 24th, 2015 at 12:49 AM ^

Really hope we get him bc we desperately need to dominate the trenches vs teams like msu and osu. Of course osu is in on him as well so I'm sure this will be a battle to the death. Hopefully the extra measures Harbaugh has taken in regards to recruiting personnel will pay off in a big way by landing Gary.

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ken725

March 24th, 2015 at 2:46 AM ^

Josh King a top 100 DE from IL will also be visiting.

Steve Lorenz also said there is another "major" recruit possibly visiting this weekend. Steve is supposed to know tomorrow if the visit is taking place.



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