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March 24th, 2015 at 8:32 AM
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We need another big man with

We need another big man with Beifeldt gone he would be perfect

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March 24th, 2015 at 12:30 PM
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Sounds like he needs to redshirt.

With Teske coming in 2016, I'm not seeing him as a perfect fit, If the staff thinks he has a high ceiling, he could be a good pickup. I see him as addressing an eventual need, not replacing Bielfeldt. Since bigs usually need time to develop, it's hard to project what our depth will look like in the future.  

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March 24th, 2015 at 8:34 AM
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Did my student teaching at

Did my student teaching at Glenn. Go Rockets!

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March 24th, 2015 at 10:11 AM
(Reply to #3) #305
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And Lloyd Carr's old stomping

And Lloyd Carr's old stomping grounds.

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March 24th, 2015 at 10:27 AM
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And Yo_Blue's old stomping

And Yo_Blue's old stomping grounds.

 

...as well as Tony Boles and Da'Mario Jones.

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March 24th, 2015 at 1:10 PM
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I'm also a Wayne grad. Go

I'm also a Wayne grad.

Go Zebras!

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March 24th, 2015 at 8:34 AM
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Highlights link here:

Highlights link here: http://youtu.be/GgCbmPGq978

(this computer won't embed)

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March 24th, 2015 at 8:42 AM
(Reply to #4) #309
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He's definitely a project,

He's definitely a project, but he's got a good frame. He needs to get stronger and a little more aggressive on the boards, I think.

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March 24th, 2015 at 9:44 AM
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Pad level?

Pad level?

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March 24th, 2015 at 9:48 AM
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Coldwater
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Too high

Too high

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March 24th, 2015 at 9:48 AM
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Pad level.

Pad level.

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March 24th, 2015 at 10:23 AM
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Embed For The Board...

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March 24th, 2015 at 10:30 AM
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Loved seeing the big guy

Loved seeing the big guy bring the ball upcourt a couple times!

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March 24th, 2015 at 11:07 AM
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He didn't miss!

Anyone who shoots 100% from the field is a good recruit in my book. Sign him up.

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March 24th, 2015 at 11:21 AM
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Ok.  First highlight is

Ok.  First highlight is goaltending, but the last play on the tape is actually pretty sick.  Needs a lot of work but looks like a good athlete with great size.  I hope for him that it's just the case that he has never received any good coaching.  If he can develop a short range jumper to go along with the 1-2 dribble drives he could be a good player.  He could at least be as good as Amir williams.

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March 24th, 2015 at 12:22 PM
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That's not very good at all.

That's not very good at all.  Williams might be one of the worst big men in the country.

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March 24th, 2015 at 12:59 PM
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Yeah.   No argument here.

Yeah.   No argument here.  But he does start at OSU, so I'm just saying he is worthy of consideration whereas previously he was completely off the radar.  UMHoops has much more video and info.  Looks like he went from averaging 4 pts/ gm as a junior to 22 and 12 rebs as a senior.  So it's safe to say that he is not at his full potential.  He looks like he works hard on defense and he really does have a great frame.   I think he's definitely worth an offer especially if we lose anyone.  Kinda tough to gauge his fit with the roster in the next few years, but he's worth keeping an eye on.  Could turn out to be a poor man's blake griffin. (full disclosure: yes, the last part was probably influenced by the fact that he is bi-racial).

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March 24th, 2015 at 8:43 AM
#319
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Well with the depth at the

Well with the depth at the 4-5, taking a project, redshirting him and then seeing what you get in 3 years isn't a terrible idea. 

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March 24th, 2015 at 9:15 AM
(Reply to #7) #320
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Apparently the staff that picked the kids that

Apparently the staff that picked the kids that went to the NC game a couple years ago ate also convinced.

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March 24th, 2015 at 5:44 PM
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Now that would be really crazy

I thought they had subs

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March 24th, 2015 at 9:05 AM
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Well

you can't teach height but I have faith in the staff to teach everything else. This sounds like one of those Iowa/Nebraska type kids that in 3 years we play and bites us in the ass.

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March 24th, 2015 at 9:21 AM
#323
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Dude actually moves really

Dude actually moves really well. Thats a coach B player for sure.

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March 24th, 2015 at 10:02 AM
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Looks like we've got a caved user

User cobra14 made a dickish comment, one that can only be seen on the app, so it appears that the other replies are responding to Landry, which is not the case.

Enjoy talking to yourself, cobra.

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March 24th, 2015 at 9:26 AM
(Reply to #11) #325
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You

You must be a ton of fun at parties.

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March 24th, 2015 at 9:26 AM
(Reply to #11) #326
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Let the coaches do what they

Let the coaches do what they need to... you probably have, or should have, others things to concern yourself with

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March 24th, 2015 at 9:51 AM
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There's a "cobra14" userid

There's a "cobra14" userid that's apparently been banned, so he (quite hilariously) and his trolling are showing up on the mobile app, but not the board.  Both of your comments above (as well as bronxblue's above that) are in response to that troll, but look odd on the board because the troll's been rolled. 

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March 24th, 2015 at 9:33 AM
#328
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We need an athletic 5

We need an athletic 5. Someone that clean up the glass, block shots and dunk thats it. Our 5 in our system is a screener, rebounder and dunker. He could fit this role. I love Doyle but he is really unathletic and struggles at finishing. I believe he will improve his verticle in the offseason though. I was watching some Mitch Mcgary highlights vs Kansas and thats all he did. Layups, Screens, Dunks. He was a star for that.

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March 24th, 2015 at 12:09 PM
(Reply to #14) #329
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You undervalue how good Mitch

You undervalue how good Mitch McGary is/ was.  Not many players can catch and finish the way he does off of pick and roll.

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March 24th, 2015 at 9:33 AM
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We need an athletic 5

We need an athletic 5. Someone that clean up the glass, block shots and dunk thats it. Our 5 in our system is a screener, rebounder and dunker. He could fit this role. I love Doyle but he is really unathletic and struggles at finishing. I believe he will improve his verticle in the offseason though. I was watching some Mitch Mcgary highlights vs Kansas and thats all he did. Layups, Screens, Dunks. He was a star for that.

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March 24th, 2015 at 10:02 AM
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Just a guess here... Coach

Just a guess here... Coach B's track record is better than yours. True we didn't make the post season this year, and Donnal may not be the player we heard he was from last year's reports, but given coach's success in identifying and developing talent, as well as winning bball games, I am going to remain calm and trust in his leadership.

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March 24th, 2015 at 10:11 AM
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you have also been cobra14'd 

you have also been cobra14'd 

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March 24th, 2015 at 9:43 AM
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If we get Jaylen Brown we will be in the final 4 next year

If we get Jaylen Brown we will be in the final 4 next year




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March 24th, 2015 at 9:55 AM
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Caris will be back.

Caris will be back. So, if Jaylen Brown comes, I think Final Four is a definite possibility.

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March 24th, 2015 at 9:59 AM
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Just saw that UM Hoops had a

Just saw that UM Hoops had a new post up about Jaylen Brown's visit to Michigan. There was not really much to garner from the article about his visit. Sounds like he keeps to himself about his intentions pretty well. Hopefully Beilein and company really made a great impression on him! Interesting that he took a visit to Cal right after visiting Michigan, not that you would expect them to be a major competitor in his recruitment.

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March 24th, 2015 at 10:07 AM
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It would be a pretty major

It would be a pretty major shock if Jaylen Brown came to Michigan.  On the other hand the chatter continues to make it sound like Caris is coming back, which would be monumental.

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March 24th, 2015 at 10:23 AM
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I love Caris but if I had to

I love Caris but if I had to choose between the 2 I would take Jaylen. That kid is special, reminds me of a young Tracy McGrady




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March 24th, 2015 at 9:56 AM
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Sounds like he'd be a

Sounds like he'd be a project, but considering the very apparent lack of height this team has, I think he'd be a great addition. As we all know, no one can question Beilein's ability to identify talent and maximize it to its fullest potential.

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March 24th, 2015 at 10:16 AM
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Lack of height?

Lack of height? Ricky Doyle is 6'10", Mark Donnal and DJ Wilson are both 6'9", and Duncan Robinson is listed at 6'8" (although I have a hard time believing that). We have plenty of height for next year, it just so happened that our guys with height this past year either weren't very good or couldnt' play due to injury or transfer.

EDIT: Should probably note that there's speculation of attrition in the big man ranks, so I can see how your lack of height comment makes sense if that occurs.

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March 24th, 2015 at 10:25 AM
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Which is big is possibly leaving?

Which is big is possibly leaving?




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March 24th, 2015 at 11:22 AM
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Look at the rotation last

Look at the rotation last year and who was basically frozen out the last 15 games of the Big 10 year?

As for this kid if OP is right and he is a Schilling type that is exactly what we need.  Everyone seems to only focus on offense in these HS evaluations but a guy who can elevate, protect the rim, and provide some bruiser status is needed.  I don't love Schilling's basketball IQ but he is a physical specimen and I dont care if he cant shoot.  Just cleaning up other players garbage should get someone 8 pts a night in 30 minutes. That is 90% of what Brandon Dawson does, aside from alley oops and he gets 12 a night. 

I dont know if Schilling type is this kid - but our interior defense has been weak for most of the past 4 years save for a spell late 2013-2014 when Morgan turned it on (but when he was on the bench it was back to frightful) and parts of 2012-2013 with Mitch. (Morgan was benched at that time a lot).  We lack athleticism inside - plain and simple.  No one fears driving the lane, no one fears getting a shot blocked, no one fears getting outmuscled, and teams just crash the boards and get second chances all night.  Yes you can alleviate that by shooting 48% as a team (with 3-4 NBA wings/guards) but that's not going to happen all the time and one bad shooting night in a tourney situation and there is no offset in our system without an inside game.

People keep forgetting that pick and roll game between Mitch and Burke.  You dont have to be a great shooter but you need to be able to move your ass, elevate, and be athletic as a big to do it.  We have no pick and roll game now.

I am never worried about offense with Beilein coaching - but we need to marry that offense wth rebounding and interior defense.  We give up far too many second chance points, give way too many easy points in the paint, etc.  The 5 need not be a great shooter but provide a defensive anchor, get rebounds, and make 3-4 put backs a game is fine in Beilein's system.

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March 24th, 2015 at 10:38 AM
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1) There's no way Mark Donnal

1) There's no way Mark Donnal is 6'9. Official roster lists him as that but it also lists Biefieldt as 6'8 which we both know is horse shit.

2) Even if he was 6'9, he doesn't play that big. 

3) Neither Dj Wilson or Duncan Robinson played (or played much in Wilson's case) this year.

So there was definitely a lack of height on this year's squad. When you also subtract Caris' length, we were way too small against a lot of teams. 

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March 24th, 2015 at 5:50 PM
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Bielfeldt's 6'8" is in reference to the circumference

of his calves

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March 24th, 2015 at 1:52 PM
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Length

Moreso than a lack of height is the lack of length.  To be a rim protector you have to also have long arms (which combined with height is far more important than height alone) and an ability to jump.  Doyle and Donnal do not have either of those attributes which is why they can't protect the rim. Jury is still out on Wilson but by all reports he actually does have some length. So we have one potential rim protector who is very skinny and very raw offensively. Robinson is a twig wing player.  He's not protecting any rims anytime soon (ever).  We need all the length we can get, because this team is severely lacking. Teske can't get here soon enough!

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March 24th, 2015 at 3:06 PM
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Seems like a backup plan player

And I don't mean that insultingly -- just can't find the words. But one of those late offers after any attrition occurs and higher rated players make their final decisions. Last year those type of offers went to Dawkins and MAAR, and three years ago to Caris, so obviously such a signee can be a key piece of the team.

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March 24th, 2015 at 4:55 PM
#346
socalwolverine1
Joined: 10/08/2012
MGoPoints: 1000
Fellow...

rocket here, class of '75.  Back then, the tallest player on the varsity basketball team was 6'5", despite JGHS having 2500 students.  But then again, that's back when the local dairies were blending PCBs from surplus power transformers into the cattle feed. 

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