Smith was originally going to commit to his school of choice Saturday at the Army All American Game. Long considered to be a Buckeye lean. Would be huge if true, with the big need at safety."Glenville four-star DB Erick Smith says he wants to take officials to Michigan & Spartans. Won't announce at Army" -Steve Wiltfong.
2014 Glenville Safety Erick Smith taking an official visit to Michigan
I hate to say it, but I think he would be a great fit for what Michigan State does.
So would Malik McDowell, and most other recruits in the country. You know..winning games. They're good fits for that.
I actually don't know that McDowell fits that great with what MSU does.
why is that?
I just think MSU has more success with shorter penetrators who can mess things up inside and let the linebackers fly all over the place. McDowell, to me, is a guy who might not be able to fill that role, and I don't know that he's fast enough to be a straight-up defensive end.
I agree with you there. MSU typically likes the space eaters inside. It's all about the LBs.
Dude, he's a talented D Limeman. There's a home for one of those on every type of defense there is.
Nobody's saying they can't use him. But I don't think that's where he fits best. Rich Rodriguez might have been able to use Shane Morris, but Morris doesn't necessarily fit what Rodriguez wants to do.
Which is where he'd end up if he's honest with himself.
I still don't see him maximizing his potential in their system, regardless of what position he would play. I think he would fit better in what FSU does.
So you are saying if he went to MSU he would be the next Lawrence Thomas?
Yeah, but more fullback-y.
I, too, have had success with a short penetrator that messed things up inside.
Yeah I agree. MM doesn't seem like a good fit for MSU based on what they do.
would be nasty. DO NOT WANT
Does MSU even have a spot for him?
if that's what you're meaning to say...
It's not that he wouldn't fit at Michigan, but he would be a dream come true for MSU with his ability to tackle and cover. Michigan just doesn't develop safeties very well, for whatever reason(s).
I want all elite players to come to Michigan, but I can acknowledge when kids would be better off going with one of their other options.
If that's the case, then seems to me that Smith would be a dream come true for UM with his ability to tackle and cover.
Perhaps, but Michigan's problem isn't necessarily in the recruiting of safeties. It's in the development.
Everything about this means OSU is either full, doesn't need a safety, or doesn't like him much. Either way I hope we get him!
Maybe the Buckeyes finally accepted that they're full?
Well we're down to one open spot if everyone signs LOI next month. Not sure who the last commit will be but I'm not holding my breathe on signing Lattimore and/or Smith. TBD.
We still haven't heard if there are any transfers or RS juniors who are not getting a 5th year.
Take your good news somewhere else. We want misery. /s
Why is this post here? Didn't you hear that this is an MSU board now?
Shut the fuck up nucky.
Is it funny or sad that I instantly got this reference?
Both? If you pop in on that board for a minute any time of the year you are bound to see it.
Oh man this is awesome. Thank god upvotes are back. You deserve all of them.
Well that's encouraging
Now Marshon Lattimore is reconsidering who he's choosing on Saturday according to Wiltfong.
and yet he said he's still going to annouce. I think these two have taken the recruiting game to a new level.
I think it is kind of an exaggeration to say they are taking to another level when you have people committing to multiple schools during the process.
Talk about a boom to start 2014 if Michigan can get them.
Seems like they're a package deal.
I bet Urbz said he was holding spots for both of them and just told Smith there's no room for him but Lattimore is still in. Lattimore now trying to leverage him Nkemdiche style.
Pardon me if I missed anything, but what is the Nkemdiche reference about?
I don't know if this was ever confirmed, but Robert Nkemdiche told Clemson he'd commit to them if they offered two of his teammates (both of whom were low 3-stars or 2-stars, IIRC). Clemson then offered them.
I don't know if this is true, or if Clemson just offered them hoping it would get them Nkemdiche, but it didn't look like a coincidence that Clemson two lowest rated commits were both teammates of the top player in the county.
Sorry to hijack here, but does anyone know when our Adidas apparel contract (and the inherent nightmare) expires ??????
Well, if you must know, it ends with the 2016-17 season. Dave Brandon has already said that there are no plans to back out of it early.
As for Erick Smith, according to Rivals, he already has visits in at Alabama, Georgia Tech and Ohio State, and in addition to Michigan and Ohio State, he has Big Ten offers from Illinois, Indiana, Michigan State and Penn State. Tennessee, West Virginia, Cincinnati, Kentucky and a few others round out the full list.
Erick Smith and Marshon Lattimore visited together unofficially for the ND Game, and visited with Trevon Story and Milen Golden for the BBQ at the Big House.
Right after the city of Chicago's parking meter deal is up. So around 2073, get used to them.
Not that we should take the decision of a couple of kids as a sign of anything.
Smith really impressed me in the Ohio D2 state title game at WR. They played a team that ran the wing-t, so it was tough to evaluate his safety play outside of "not Jabril Peppers tackling people".
Yeah, they got gashed pretty bad.
I did like his athleticism on offense, particularly in the 2nd half despite being down big.
OSU has no room at the inn.
Can't start a thread. The Detroit News is reporting that Curt Mallory is interviewing for the head coaching job at Eastern Illinois. Seems relevant to a potential recruit at safety. Didn't see it referenced elsewhere on the Board.
There are many rules here at the rock.
Rule Number One: Obey all rules!
Erick Smith now has one crystal ball pick to Michigan.
As a non-24/7 user, those crystal balls sure seem to be pretty volatile. Maybe, though, that's an accurate reflection of trying to divine a 16-18 year old's thought process for a major decision with that many variables.
To the post, that would be great news to get a very good safety!
We need a NT! Get him started on bacon smoothie shakes - stat!
6'7" nose tackles are rare.
Not a NT but a DT but Pat Massey was a huge hit on the message boards at the time.
Probably just urban telling him to visit us and then shit on us.
Smith and Lattimore both coming here.
Yes we can!
That's a horrendous slogan. No politics.
Ya, but did you ever say it out loud, or...
Weren't they kind of a packaged deal?
They want(ed) to play together, but I don't think OSU has room for both. I've kind of thought that one would end up at OSU but the other one wouldn't, and since Lattimore is the better prospect, he's probably more likely to get the spot.
The staff at OSU certainly appears to feel that there is room for both. They even offered a backup at S as a contingency in case Smith heads somewhere else. I think the staff has had these two pencilled in as DB commits since the beginning, and at least as far as anyone outside the program knows, they are both being pursued as strongly as they have been at any point.
That Thomas Holley (PSU DT recruit out of NYC) might give us a look?
He doesn't even have a Michigan offer.
Probably not. First of all, we haven't offered him. And secondly, he's got plenty of other options who have been on him longer. Normally, you have to grab low-hanging fruit this late in the process. He's not really that type.
Oh he might look at us alright. Probably won't be the look you're gonna like.
defensive backfield in the country. But, sadly, unlikely.
...but if you are, how do you figure?
This is a completely honest question.
The two seem to be unable to do anything without each other. Lattimore might be canceling his decision because Smith cancelled his
Anybody heard the rumor that they are just messing around throwing bs info out just to create "drama"?
Lattimore allegedly had Kentucky writers thinking they were silent commits to UK just for the hell of it, per Twitter.
There was an OSU fan that started a rumor that all 3 Glenville kids called UK to commit, and UK sites ran with it. Marcelys Jones seems to have UK and OSU staffs thinking he's enrolling mmediately after the Army game. Smith now wants to visit the Michigan schools out of the blue and Lattimore is drumming up publicity on twitter about his commitment, which is presumably still being held on Saturday. Most people just chalk it up to Glenville being Glenville, but I wouldn't rule out these guys wanting to buck the OSU trend, or perhaps there is a numbers crunch with the possible (probable?) flip of Mike Gesicki from PSU.
getting pressure from Glenville folks to delay so OSU gets more time? Do you think the Glenville coaches have warmed a little to UM or cooled a little to OSU with the staff changes post RR and Tressel?
These pipeline schools (regardless for which Univ) are pipelines largely because the HS coaches and admin set up everything to favor the preferred Univ. Explicit and implicit support as much to keep scholarship offers flowing for their kids.
For the most part, Ted Ginn Sr. Doesn't push his guys towards OSU, they just tend to follow their older peers. As a former public school kid in NE Ohio, most Cleveland/Akron kids grow up wanting to go to OSU (with the exception of the Catholic schools where ND has pull). I can't say for sure, but Coach Ginn just wants to see his guys succeed and I'd say, especially without Tressell, he isn't pushing them to play at OSU. Maybe other coaches/advisors, but there was talk earlier in the year of Lattimore and Smith not responding well to assumptions that they would automatically go to OSU.
Gesicki was 50/50 Buckeye/Penn State, and BOB was his lead recruiter. Buckeyes still don't have a TE in this class. If there was an odd man out in their number crunch, it would be Smith. This feels like they told him his spot isn't guaranteed anymore with Gesicki back in play.
On the good side of this equation, they could join up with Peppers & Watson to become a fearsome force. Truly a backfield that I would want to see every week that I could. On the bad side of this equation, using social media to manipulate (coaches, programs, etc) doesn't speak well for the person(s) behind it. If would happen to be the case I don't think they will work well with any system that typically doesn't tolerate public laundry airing. I hope its the first. An Urbz bumble we could capitalize on would make me cackle with glee at this particular time.