2013 updated ESPN 150 and new ESPN 300 released

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2013 updated ESPN 150 and new ESPN 300 released

Only significant changes were the rise by Jourdan Lewis and the drop by Mike McCray.

Shane Morris 32 (up from 37)

Gareon Conley 64 (down from 63)
Mike McCray 104 (down from 75)
David Dawson 89 (up from 92)
Logan Tuley Tillman 97 (no change)
Dymonte Thomas 98 (no change)
Chris Fox 108 (down from 105)
Jourdan Lewis 92 (up from 107)
Kyle Bosch 120 (down from 112)
Taco Charlton 114 (up from 115)
Patrick Kugler 112 (up from 121)
 
New ESPN 300 members
Jaron Dukes 216
Jake Butt 232
Henry Poggi 250
Ben Gedeon 271
 
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June 6th, 2012 at 1:49 PM | They have a top 300 now? (Score:5 Normal)
AAB
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Within 5 years, every site will have a "top 1500" list, and every recruit with at least one BCS offer will be a 4 star.  

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

June 6th, 2012 at 1:50 PM | Conley (Score:1)
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Very strange how ESPN is much higher on Conley than any other site.  ESPN usually has a south bias.

June 6th, 2012 at 1:56 PM | Hmmm.... (Score:4 Normal)
neoavatara
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Ohio State offers McCray...and he drops. 

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June 6th, 2012 at 1:58 PM | Gedeon (Score:4 Normal)
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Gedeon and Deveon Smith don't even crack the top 300?  And Poggi 250?  wtf

June 6th, 2012 at 2:02 PM | Gedeon is 271. Smith is not (Score:2)
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Gedeon is 271. Smith is not in there. 

Those who stay will be champions!

June 6th, 2012 at 3:53 PM | Sorry. Missed Gedeon. (Score:2)
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Will edit original post.

June 6th, 2012 at 1:57 PM | I am starting to really get (Score:2)
Jmilan
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I am starting to really get confused with some of these rankings. Some sites have X guy dropping like 15 spots others have the same X guy jumping up 5 spots. The thing I guess that throws me off is that I figured they would be at least somewhat consistent. Oh well, I am fairly new to recruiting so maybe that's why I don't get it.

June 7th, 2012 at 12:36 PM | Many (most?) of the drops (Score:4 Informative)
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Many (most?) of the drops have to do with other guys movinig up rather than them moving down. So if ESPN ignores a guy he will probably drop just due to the ones they are paying attention to moving up.

June 6th, 2012 at 2:14 PM | Devon Allen (Score:1)
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How about Devon Allen.  Scout has him as the 121st best OVERALL player in the country and ESPN has him as the 98th best WR.  How can they be that far off?

June 6th, 2012 at 3:52 PM | Percy Harvin begs to differ. (Score:2 Normal)
CorkyCole
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Percy Harvin begs to differ.

June 6th, 2012 at 3:54 PM | Except that the kid has (Score:1 Flamebait)
FreddieMercuryHayes
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Except that the kid has Olympic class speed. Not many moves, but ridiculously fast.

June 6th, 2012 at 10:09 PM | lulz (Score:2 Normal)
JohnCorbin
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Wes Wekler - 5'9"
Victor Cruz - 6'
Steve Smith - 5'9"
Roddy White - 6'

2nd 3rd 5th and 8th receivers in yards last year, respectively.

I could keep going, but it's just easier to call you dumb for that one.

June 6th, 2012 at 2:02 PM | You're not alone (Score:1)
gobluefrombama
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I don't get it either. Although I would agree with the general south bias as far as ESPN is concerned. Also, it still shocks me when some people don't recognize the block M down here.

June 6th, 2012 at 3:07 PM | Yeah (Score:1 Normal)
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Living in Pell City of Alabama I wear a Block M Hat.. So many time people ask me if I was Mizz fan.. I was like hell no Go Blue! The Bama fans was like oh yeah we going kick your ass.. Then Auburn fans was like hope you kick Bama ass...

Go Blue

June 7th, 2012 at 6:18 AM | Really? (Score:1)
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And then what happened?

Yes...that guy.

June 6th, 2012 at 2:04 PM | Gedeon (Score:1)
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Gedeon is #271 on the ESPN 300

June 6th, 2012 at 2:05 PM | I believe this (Score:5 Normal)
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is the new ESPN ranking system Stock Illustration - lottery balls with numbers. fotosearch - search clipart, illustration posters, drawings and vector eps graphics images

L.S.A. '88

June 6th, 2012 at 2:06 PM | Rankings (Score:4 Insightful)
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Who else is tired of debating about a 5 or 10 or 15 spot move in the rankings?  Means nothing.

June 6th, 2012 at 2:09 PM | Targets (Score:1)
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What about some of our key remaining targets, and longshots?

 

for today, goodbye; for tomorrow, good luck; and forever, GO BLUE!!

June 6th, 2012 at 2:21 PM | Targets (Score:5 Normal)
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Fuller - 28

Treadwell - 37

McQuay - 39

Bailey - 50

Vanderdoes - 57

Green - 58

Bower - 119

Wilkins - 217

Mathis - 236

 

June 6th, 2012 at 5:50 PM | Even though ESPN seems to (Score:1)
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Even though ESPN seems to rank players quite aribtarily like many around here have pointed out, it's still surprising to see someone like Mathis at 236 while Rivals and Scout have him ranked 71 and 95, respectively. 

If Ann Arbor is a whore, why didn't you get in?

June 6th, 2012 at 6:19 PM | Perhaps they take academics (Score:2)
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Perhaps they take academics into account.

Twitter - Recruiting Update: June 17

June 6th, 2012 at 3:57 PM | http://touchthebanner.blogspo (Score:2)
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http://touchthebanner.blogspot.com/2012/06/espn-300-for-2013-updated.html

Twitter - Recruiting Update: June 17

June 6th, 2012 at 2:27 PM | Dont know (Score:2 Normal)
Champeen
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dont know how long you have been checking out recruiting services, but ESPN is the absolute most horrible recruiting site in the entire Galaxy.  They were OK when Lemming was there in very early 2000's.  And they are at least trying to now go big into recruiting, but they are very far behind.  There network is small and fairly unprofessional.

There is the big 3, and then ESPN IMO.

June 6th, 2012 at 2:46 PM | *Big 2, 247 is still too new (Score:1)
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*Big 2, 247 is still too new to be in the same class as Rivals and Scout...

June 6th, 2012 at 4:45 PM | The Mathlete showed (Score:3 Normal)
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that they wwere pretty good in a couple areas, right up with Rivals and Scout, but not as consistent or close in others.

"Everyone gets dumped Gabe. Let me give you some advice: a little coverup on your Adams Apple will make it appear smaller. Which will make you appear less like a transvestite." 

June 6th, 2012 at 2:45 PM | Every Time (Score:2 Normal)
AZBlue
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I go to check the ESPN rankings I get pissed at how they can only rank our class 7th in the nation.  Then I notice that it is the 2012 rankings.  Anyone else have this problem?

Way to stay on top of things ESPN.

June 6th, 2012 at 2:46 PM | http://insider.espn.go.com/co (Score:1)
Willhouse
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http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/notebook/_...

 

This is interesting. Here is a write up about Derrick Green, and it lists some schools who is interested in and who is in contact with, and there is no mention of Michigan.

"One school, Oregon, has promised him as much. Even though the Ducks aren't traditionally a grind-it-out team, they've said they'll tailor an offense to Green's skills. He plans to visit the school this summer, perhaps before or after his trip to The Opening in Beaverton, Ore., in July. Green also plans to visit Ole Miss, Alabama, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Auburn"

Is ESPN behind the 8ball, or are we MgoBloggers just getting our seatbelts ready for another heart break?

June 6th, 2012 at 3:15 PM | I'm sorry but Derrick Green going elsewhere isn't a heartbreak (Score:-1 Overrated)
June 6th, 2012 at 3:20 PM | My apologies, but there has (Score:3 Normal)
Willhouse
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My apologies, but there has been A LOT of chatter on here regarding Green and how the coaches are zeroing in on him after missing out on Ty Isaac. I myself did not read anything that said we were a favorite for him, but this board seemed to think he was our top priority at a skill position, outside of Treadwell. I was just passing along the information that we don't seem to be high on his list.

June 6th, 2012 at 7:53 PM | No need to apologize, what (Score:1)
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No need to apologize, what you said is correct, Mgobloggers have latched on to him something fierce after he said a couple nice things about us but the services seem to think we jumped on the wagon a little to late to be a serious player.

Blue is Faster

June 6th, 2012 at 3:15 PM | I know Tim has been optimistic on Green (Score:1)
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but he's been the only Michigan guy I've heard who thinks they have a solid chance.

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

June 6th, 2012 at 3:51 PM | There has been a TON of (Score:1 Flamebait)
FreddieMercuryHayes
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There has been a TON of differing information on Green. Not really sure if it's because he tells people different things, of if he tells people little, and then various reports extrapolate at will. Not really sure what to believe on him at the moment.

June 6th, 2012 at 3:14 PM | Some things, like siblings and garnish (Score:2)
ChiBlueBoy
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...are best ignored. I could pick a few examples, but I have no idea how they can put Poggi at 250. If he learns to keep his pad level low, the man could be unblockable.

"Mattison must break you. Jake Ryan is his tool."

June 6th, 2012 at 3:16 PM | Don't understand (Score:1)
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why this is a big deal, I mean is it because it is June and so it is months before we get football? If a player is the 40th overall rated player or the 45th will make little difference once he gets to Ann Arbor, what then will matter is his work ethic, natural abilities, and a ton of intangibles that will define how good he truly is, and even then it is still hard to quantify the ability of an individual. I mean, Kovacs was not recruited and Von Miller was a run-of-the-mill 3 star athlete and look at them, while there is no guarantee that a 5 star athlete will contribute, at the end of the day we hope for a great class but good coaches will find a way to use the athletes they have and field good teams, like Mike Leach did at Texas Tech. Or the job that Mattison and Hoke did with a not-so-great rated defense. 

June 6th, 2012 at 3:57 PM | Here's why it matters (Score:1)
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Because it is much easier to assess skill and athleticism...the things that kids are graded on than it is intangibles like attitude, work ethic, etc.  Plus these kids are all the best players on their teams, so of course they coaches are going to rave about them.  So, you always want the best athletes and the more highly ranked recruits you get the more likely you are to win.  Yes it's early, and no a few points here and there are not a big deal, and yes the intangibles do matter as well.  But, having highly ranked recruits matters a lot too.

Strength equipment is expensive and guarantees you nothing.  A strong will is free and can give you everything you want.

June 6th, 2012 at 4:19 PM | 11 players in the top 120 is (Score:2)
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11 players in the top 120 is sick. Well done Michigan coaching staff.

 

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Screw Lance.

June 6th, 2012 at 8:46 PM | Anyone know why espn has two (Score:2)
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Anyone know why espn has two different ratings for conley and morris. On the team page at espn where they just show the top commits shane is an 88 and conley an 86. I noticed this a few days ago and thought it was just their new ratings in the espn 150 or something but when i saw the new 150 they are still listed as an 87 and 85. The commits page also list them as 87 and 85. Not really important it just seems odd.

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