I'm as much an optimist as anyone, but that first place vote is preposterous going off of current information.
2012 Preseason AP Poll: Michigan #8
Haha, it would fit Sharp well. Going against everything he's said about Michigan for the last bunch of years.
Sharp seems more likely to write an article about how Hoke is on the hot seat this year.
Or the first place vote is his and he plans to write an elaborate article about some "idiot" who voted Michigan #1.
That would be the trollingest article ever written. It might be too clever of a plan for Sharp though. He's just waiting until Michigan beats Bama, then he'll go on about the love the Wolverines are getting is too much and that "this wasn't your typical SEC" team.
There can only be one winner in Dallas. If DR puts on a show and BWC shows up then one first place vote would cover that possibility. Go Blue!
Ha.....who in the blue hell gave us a first place vote? I love me some preseason polls: I swear half these guys just put teams high so they can drop them massively when they lose one.
Hmm I wonder who gave us a first place vote.
Is this for real? It has finally happened? Wow, people may have actually thought about some of their votes. I must have looked over them.
we received one 1st place vote. someone drank the kool-aid
Tasty, tasty kool-aid. If we can knock off Alabama (a tall task but not impossible), an undefeated season becomes very doable and with it the justification of that #1 vote.
My guess is we got a first place vote from a Alabama media member. Seems like something they would do down there to hype up a potential win.
Fuck the SEC. Bunch of " I beat someone in the best conference so I am the best" bullshit.
Bama - 28
Georgia - 48
South Carolina - Outside top 50
Arkansas - 18
This is a self fulfilling prophecy. Essentially the SEC has decided "If we refuse to schedule large non-conference games unless they are a top-2 (LSU vs Oregon, Bama v. Michigan), we can hedge our bets that we win that one game and can parade conference superiority."
Really all of this crap could have been avoided if Colt McCoy had just stayed healthy against Alabama.
if Ted Ginn Jr. hadn't broken his foot after returning the opening kick for a TD
They have to play LSU and Alabamam i bet that is why it is higher either that or its the illustrious jacksonville state gamecocks...
No Notre Dame?? Beano Cook must be rolling over in his ....er...chair.
I think the AP releases their ballots so we will probably find out the culprit soon enough. And I can't wait for the inevitable interview on the Finebaum show next week where Alabama fans go off on him PAWWWWWWLLLLL.
Whoever gave Michigan a first place vote ... I like you, but you're crazy!
looked like this while voting..
Commence over reactions to meaningless pre season polls
There are two reasons I'm enjoying these preseason polls this year:
1. OSU's low ranking.
2. MSU's rank below us that just INFURIATES their fans.
I was chatting with one of those uber MSU fan two days ago.
"Hey! I see that a poll finally ranked us [MSU] above you! Five in a row, baby!!"
"Which poll was that?"
"Does it matter? Five in a row, baby!!!"
This year. It ends.
had MSU ahead of us. But Denard was the cover.
If we don't beat those a$$ clowns this year I'm going to cry like a baby.
Why people talk about where we are ranked compared to Sparty, they have kicked our ass the past 4 years, I couldn't give 2 shits about rankings, just win. Unfortunately Spart can talk crap because they have had our number, no point in reasoning with them until we finally beat them and there is no guarantee we do it this year...
We really do believe you're a Michigan fan. Really we do.
Because I'm not getting all excited because of preseason rankings? Why...because I'm not worried about where Sparty is ranked? I want to beat their ass, I want to beat Ohio's ass...like I said, I couldn't give two shits about our ranking right now nor am I gonna get pissed if Sparty is ahead of us or behind us in the polls...
Leon... Don't use your real name.
I liked Leon and thought he was always underrated...should have worn the #2...
I think pretty much everyone on this board understands that preseason rankings are meaningless. I don't care where MSU or OSU are ranked, but what entertains me is watching their fanbases get fired up about being ranked behind us. The only people who put any credence in polls before a single snap is played don't know much about college football.
Then what compelled you to click on a preseason poll thread, Sparty?
Ohio is going to be much better than the #18 team in the country
They also have the makings of a very good defense and Miller will end up being the second best quarterback in the Big Ten.
I agree on the schedule and the defense but I am not understanding the Miller LUV.
For him to be the second best QB in conference, he'll be trying to beat out Martinez (who will be playing without the best LT on their team) and Vandenberg, who he was definitely better than at the end of last season.
I would go into saying that Meyer happens to have a strong history with developing dual threat quarterbacks, but I've been reading way too much about that lately.
Best DL in the conference (including the best defensive player by far, John Simon); young and very talented LBs; good enough DBs. They always have good DBs.
Multiple options at RB, and they'll find somebody to play WR. Braxton Miller is going to be an unholy terror in that offense for 3 years. They'll be our second toughest opponent this year.
On the other hand, Miller looked awful throwing last year, they lost some significant talent--especially at WR, and they're installing a new system. Meyer is good, and they definitely have talent, but they also have far more question marks than many other teams. Among many talking heads, OSU had very high expectations in the preseason last year--they were expected to compete for a B1G title and be much better than us, for example. I give them a high ceiling and a low floor. I wouldn't be surprised at 10-2 or 7-5.
I truly think he's going to excel in Meyer's offense. I thought the kid played incredible for a true freshman in "The Game." I know he missed some passes, but the Ohio offense was an abortion for much of the season.
People will compare this transition to ours with RR. No comparison. They have a QB in year one who was meant to run this offense, and he's only a sophomore so no missed value in year 2.
That being said, we are still going to beat them this year.
Here are the results. I am looking through right now.
Bob Asmussen is our winner:
Oh Bob.....you bastard. Maybe he just wants people reading his articles and figured something as ridiculous as that is the way to go about it.
voted Michigan #1 in his June poll too.
Arkansas #10 with JLS as coach....
Did you guys see how unstable he looked during SEC media days?
If we're all expecting to beat Bama, then why not??? That person is going to look like a prophet come late evening September 1st...
Interesting point. The voter doesn't have much to lose and stains to gain a lot.
You don't really expect UM to beat Bama, do you?
Personally, I'm just hoping UM looks respectable (and cursing Dave Brandon for scheduling this game).
Im expecting us to look good doing it. I believe that first place vote is the first of many we will receive this year. You should feel that way too if you really believe in what Hoke and the crew are building. Bama is young and this is the most vulnerable they will be all year. We will take advantage of that.
Personally, I'm just hoping UM looks respectable (and cursing Dave Brandon for scheduling this game).
So hold on, we always complain about a lack of quality games in the OoC season, and now that we have a game, it's "Damnit Brandon, why did you schedule this game!"
First off, don't include me in your "....we always complain about a lack of quality games in the OOC season..." statement because I don't feel that way at all. I'm always in favor of playing a moderately challenging OOC schedule, but that is NOT what UM is doing this season. This is an insanely difficult OOC schedule and UM will not get rewarded for it.
The smart way to schedule OOC games is to play against teams whose names you recognize but aren't really all that great. To wit, OSU is playing Cal this season. Cal is a "name" team in that you don't snicker when you see OSU is playing them, but they are actually not that good so they should be a pretty easy win for OSU. In my opinion, Cal is only marginally better than Air Force (who UM is playing after Bama) and Air Force is only UM's 3rd hardest OOC game. Stupid scheduling by Brandon IMO.
All I am saying is, don't go whining at the end of the season because UM only finished the regular season 7-5 or 8-4 while thumping your pulpit about how important it is to play a tough OOC schedule. If UM had scheduled intelligently (already having road games at ND, at Nebraska and at OSU), they would have played 3 "easy" OOC games besides the ND game to improve the chances of getting to 10 wins and a season that the fans could be happy with.
Damn that first place vote is just Cray!
I might have to visit the ole rcmb for some good laughs....those guys are going to be taking the preseason ap poll extremely seriously.
over East Landfill from here.
And in other off-topic RCMB new, they are up to 40 pages on the debate over the solution to the equation 48÷2(9+3)
Also the "orgy teacher" may be hot or not
Not as mushroom-cloudy as I would have predicted, but there are some racist comments about "Poles."
Also, I thought you were being hyperbolic, but nope--both are real topics on the front page and there really are 40 pages trying to solve a simple expression, and from a quick glance at page 1 and page 40, the whole thing is still about trying to calculate the answer.
Between answers of 2 and 288, with each side thinking the other is a bunch of idiots. My favorite responses are the ones trying to say that BOTH answers are correct.
2.2857143 be so elusive? Oh! MSU students. Makes sense.
Back on the 1st of this month, a thread asked the blog to predict the AP and Coaches' Poll preseason rankings. This blog can certainly call them - 5 got the Coaches' ranking right, but 6 folks got this one correct. Good job, MGoBlog!
Maybe the SEALS votes us number 1?
Even though the SEC is generally considered the best league (for good reason). USC is the most complete team, and has the clearest roadmap to an undefeated season, though playing Oregon twice won't be easy.
Nor will playing Michigan in the epic super MEGATRON world death match national championship tournament.
Apparently my dad got a vote.
Now let's get this Pick Six competition going again!
Seriously, How drunk was this guy when he voted. God bless crown royal.
Check out the poll from Ira Schoffel for a good laugh.
From Notre Dame beat writer Eric Hansen of South Bend Tribune with Michigan at #15:
Based on my expectation of UM finishing the post-season 9-4, even that is a little bit higher than I think UM will wind up in the final poll. I forsee a 16-20 ranking for UM when all is said and done.
Given UM's depth issues on both sides of the line and the brutal schedule, I'll be perfectly happy if they meet my prediction.
Polls don't matter. The goal is to win the B1G championship and beat ohio.
This Is Michigan.
While there are a few teams too high IMO (Oregon, Arkansas) and a few teams a little low (VT, WVU) I think that Overall I'd say the AP has come up with the most reasonable poll this year. Of course It's also great to see someone is giving us that MNC love also.
Know how anyone can put together a poll before the season begins. I love Michigan but honestly think 8 is a bit too high...I'd say between 13-15...or maybe that is where I wish they were....either way...just win the B1G championship and I'll be thrilled.
You don't know how anyone can put together a poll be fore the season starts... yet you go on to say where you think Michigan should be ranked? I love sparty logic.
Can you read? Not sure I follow your flow bro...preseason rankings are stupid...I think they are a bit overrated...when you assume....well, you probably know the saying...
So, you are definitely a sparty due to the use of 'bro.' And he is saying you knocked preseason polls and then went on to say where you thought Michigan should be ranked in the preseason.
Dont tell me I'm a Sparty...both of you are clueless in that regard. The reason why I don't like preseason polls is due to the fact that they are based off what??? Pure speculation, the opposite of any poll for the remainder of the year. Personally, I think we are more in the range of a 13-15 team but what is that based off? That is the reason why I dislike preseason polls...they are based off nothing and just create overreactions of why certain teams are ranked where they are. So there you have it "bro...."
Completely agree that is where we should probably be.
I say the real determining factor of the season (low teens or top five) may come down to Denard realizing or not that the 3rd or possibly 2nd option when he drops back is him tucking and running. I can't count the times where we got killed by opposing QBs dropping back, if the first two options aren't open tucking it and running for 11 yards in a 3rd and 8 - think McNab, Prior, Smith, Young, etc. if Denard can realize that he does not have to prove he can pass every time that he drops back. That if the back 7 have to respect him taking off, that it will open everything up. Think about a DB covering a 15 yard out on a 3rd and 8 - Denard starts moving towards the line of scrimmage on that side, if as a DB you realize that he is probably going to take off, that if you don't attack now that he will get 10 yards before you make up the 5 - what do you do? What they will start to do is start cheating up and leaving their coverage, which will then open up some huge plays in the passing game. If Denard does this, it could be a very special season - BIG title, Heisman, and possibly playing for it all.
Now if Denard continues to try to find someone and just throws it up for grabs, we will still have a successful season but not a special one.
The journalists in the Big Ten footprint were much lower on Michigan than the ones outside of Big Ten country. I think the average rank for Michigan of Big Ten journalists is between 10 and 11, and that includes Bob Asumssen's outlier. Probably where I would have had us ranked as well.
Big Ten journalists were higher on MSU and Wisconsin than others and lower on Nebraska in addition to Michigan.
I wondered about this too - here are the average rankings given to various Big Ten teams by reporters in the Big Ten footprint:
For contrast, I took some perennial favorites as well and did that calculation, then realized that rounding up wasn't sufficiently transparent. To the right, I left some numbers beyond the decimal point to show how closely they are clustered in the selected ballots.
Chart. Including Philadelphia may be a stretch, but Penn State is the closest major BCS team. OSU and Nebraska average is inflated because cannot accurately include NR in the average, but Nebraska's Big Ten average is still higher than their actual rank even without the NRs.
Dont state your opinion and be realistic....that's flame bait....
Agreed, the other day I had the nerve to state that we may not have proven yet that we are a top 10 team (still stated that we were low teens) and got marked as trolling.
If Lou Holtz had a ballot, Notre Dame would have a #1 vote, too.
That slobbering numbskull!
I can't believe there is only one voter who knows what the hell he's doing. Thank you, Bob.
Because preseason polls matter once the season kicks off and particularly at the end of the season.
Man, I am so sick of dicks who down vote any opinion expressed on a topic that isn't rapturously enthusiastic about how f*cking AWESOME!!!! UM is going to be this season.
If you don't agree with an opinion just reply with your (hopefully, well reasoned) response, downvoting should be left for truly offensive posting behavior, not just "I don't like your opinion" votes. That is just so lame.
I state my opinion and then I'm all of a sudden a Sparty...too funny.
Agreed. Downvoting seems to be becoming more and more popular lately...
Some guy who makes one hundred posts (they don't even have to be good posts) can neg every Magnus post they see for any reason without potentially losing the ability to post/vote or having to put their (e)name to it.
Damn you figured out my elaborate scheme.
Who voted Oklahoma #1? They have no offensive line or legit running back. Our offense and defense is better than the Sooners. If Michigan can some how pull off the upset over Bama then a BCS title isn't out of reach. As of now Michigan would be favored to win every game on the schedule except for Bama. ND, MSU, oHIo, and Nebraska will be tough games. Winning 3 of these games is realistic. Because this coaching staff is probably the best in the nation I think Michigan will be playing in the Rose Bowl. I predict a 12-2 season.
Poor USC is just suffering under the weight of the crippling NCAA penalties. Just look what its done to their ranking and recruiting. I bet they'll think twice before buying the best players in the country next time...
Point but supposedly they will start to feel the effects for the next 3-4 years....
Norte Dame isn't ranked... Obviously this poll is faked