2010 Vegas Heisman Trophy Odds: Forcier listed
I think I can spare a dollar when I go to Vegas in August for a fun and extremely hopeful bet on Tate. I'll take a $3,499 profit
EDIT: or $349, I'm a little hazy on that kind of bettingI wish I could put it on Denard...
$1 to win $35
I don't like how there is a UConn player on that list. That makes me a little more nervous.
You're getting into that "Eeyor-ish" territory.
I keep thinking that the last three Heisman winners were Sophomores, and see visions of Tate or Denard holding a certain iconic trophy in Manhattan come December. I know it's fairly nuts, but the off-season is long.
In all fairness, Bradford was a RS Sophomore, but I think your point still holds true.
Tebow and Ingram?
...were both true sophomores as far as I know.
Ah, I misread the original post. My bad.
our 2nd best player isn't our Punter. *lights candle*.
2nd?
BG????
Ever heard of space emperor of space???? It's not like he inherited that title from someone else with the same name.
Are you seriously trying to make the argument that our best player was Mesko?
I think Al Davis has a few open positions in his front office. You should apply.
Apparently, I can't make my sarcasm abundantly apparent over the internet on only 4 hours of sleep.
all of our intel shows a legit quarterback battle leading into camp, while Vegas has Forcier a longshot to be the cover boy of the entire sport.
Someone's wrong. Which is it?
Hey, if Tate actually wins the Heisman this year, we'll have had one hell of a season in a good way for a change ... roll with it.
Odds are usually made to entice people to bet, not to be an accurate representation of potential to win necessarily. Most people that will be betting probably don't know a whole lot about our QB race.
Exactly - even if Tate had no shot, he would likely be on this list because people will take the bet since he is the QB of Michigan and, hey, didn't he have that big game against ND where they put him on the cover of SI?
That just means that they are going to allow people to bet on him. They would lose a lot of money if they didn't have at least one player for Michigan fans to put a dollar on.
It's not too late to bet that Brandon Graham receives a retroactive heisman award. I heard Reggie Bush's is going to be available soon.
unless they saw our Spring game, how would they know how much Denard's passing has improved? I love to watch the tape of the Spring game......once a team knows Denard can throw, and honors the pass threat, the field opens up for a dilithium burst.
That's not necessarily true. They could know that Tate might not even start. If he doesn't then placing him on the betting board is like stealing candy from a baby.
we havent seen all denard can do, spring game was great but we have to remember that the defense was dropping back into cover 2 every time. no blitz or complex coverages incase someone else was watching. last year his arm was fine, it was reading coverages that was the problem. were going to have to wait a few months to see whats really going on with our QB competition.
Sigh.... I agree with you. In 2008 Justin Siller looked like a Heisman candidate against us, and that defense was right on par with 2009's.
I like Tate but if he wins the starting job this year I feel like his ceiling for greatness isn't as high as Denard's. Tate's a solid qb and maybe in the majority of scenarios he wins more games starting for us this year than Denard but Denard has the electrifying speed and athleticism to have the kind of season where he could win a Heisman. I feel like Vegas knows this and also knows that there is a qb battle going on so they put odds up on Tate and hope to get bets on the qb with less Heisman potential who might not even win the starting job. I'd much rather wait until a line for Denard eventually comes out
Drew Henson also had a bigger upside at QB then Tom Bradey did, when they were both playing at UofM. I am not saying I don't agree with you about Denard vs. Tate. But, I am just saying.......sometimes something obvious and clear cut now, turns out differently in the future.....
(in thick NY accent.) I am just saying, hey now you know. Ok batta-boom, peace out, I am otta here........
And that's the lowest odds for a michigan player?
damn, we need Charles Woodsen back..
Yeah, I was watching that Rose Bowl game on BTN last night ....
I generally don't comment on spelling/grammar stuff, but c'mon... the "e" key isn't anywhere close to the "o" key. Is it really so hard to correctly spell the name of the best player on our only National Championship team in the last 60 years? It's only two syllables.
Is it really that hard to use the Reply button? It's only one click. :)
Don's old school. He doesn't mess with that new-fangled technology all you whippersnappers are using these days.
If anyone wants to be a bit depressed about what might have been, look at who is #4 on this list.
My work has that link blocked. Who is #4 on the list? Mallett?
Am I the only one who thinks Jacquizz's parents were cruel people?
Thinking you know more than Vegas is a consistant losing bet. What you outlined basically means that any bet on either of your Qb's is a losing bet. Both could be great players but unless you take 99% of the snaps at Qb, you aren't even going to NYC. They could put them both at +5000 and it wouldn't matter, any dollar bet on a split QB to win the HT, is a suckers bet.
You're telling me I shouldn't double down on a hard 16?
...but will bet Locker.