2010 Recruiting: Current Commits & Available Slots
I've never been a huge recruitnik, but at this point, I really want to see some better players come in with the 2010 recruiting class. However, I honestly don't know how they'll make things work, given our current commitment list, and our needs.
I looked at the current commitment list, and I see 19 commitments currently:
2 QB
3 RB
5 WR
1 OL
1 DT
2 DE
1 LB
2 CB
1 S
1 P
I see the remaining needs:
2 - 3 OL
1 DT
1 DE
2 LB
2 CB
1 S
This is 9 more needed, for a total of 28.
In addition, there are great prospects out there in areas supposedly "filled" who I have been given to understand we would "make room" for. Examples would be Brennan Clay & Eduardo Clements at RB.
What happens now? Do some of our current commits mutually "bow out?" and go to MAC or other other Big Ten schools? Are they actually shifted from current position to a position of greater need (e.g., some of the WR recruits go to the secondary.) What is the maximum number of players we can accept and suit up? And does Witty count against this year, even though starting next year?
Do we recruit first to need, and then to talent/star level, or first to talent/star level, and only secondly to need?
I assume that you recruit to need, and pull offers once you are full at a position. However, you would make exceptions to make room for solid four star, or even five start recruits.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:31 PM ^
and I honestly hope we aren't - but are there any OMG INSIDERZ reports of us cooling on/Barnesing current commits?
October 5th, 2009 at 1:34 PM ^
Michigan has good young depth on the O Line right now. Maybe one more in the 2010 class.
They need defensive help with the remaining spots.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:39 PM ^
brought in 8 scholarship and preferred walk-on Olinemen this year, in addition to the 4 scholarship redshirt freshmen, and we have one for 2010 (Pace), and probably will accept 3-4 more preferred walk-on OLinemen. I think the depth will be okay there.
If Clements or Clay switch (keep losing Oklahoma), they'll be accepted. But, I think the remaining scholarships have the names of Floyd, Christian, Furman, Olaniyan, Grimes, his teammate, maybe Swigert, maybe Flowers, and a couple others waiting to be signed on them.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:51 PM ^
so no Bryant at DE? You may be right re the OL, but their play vs MSU does not inspire confidence.
However, assuming Floyd, Christian, Grimes, Furman, Olaniyan, Swigert/Flowers, and one/two others, that still puts us over 25. Again, what happens then?
October 5th, 2009 at 2:01 PM ^
As you stated, the OL play doesn't not inspire confidence. The problem is the that 'their' play was mostly upperclassman, and does not include the 8-9 true/redshirt freshman that will form the team in the future. Taking one more OL would be sufficient in a year where we desperately need D recuits.
edit: by Floyd do you mean Shariff? not happening, though obviously he has a spot if he wants.
October 5th, 2009 at 2:02 PM ^
"I would kill for that to be the end of the class and we would make room for all of these fine scholar athletes"
October 5th, 2009 at 3:29 PM ^
I listed played against MSU. All the guys I listed are either true freshmen or redshirts or high school seniors. That's a batch of about 15 kids, plus a few more, from those 3 classes, where I think the team will have a number develop into fine players.
Derrick Bryant committed to UCLA about 2 weeks ago.
Michigan can sign up to 28, I believe. Not all on our list will probably commit. Plus, some kids will leave the program. There will be room for all Michigan wants to take.
October 5th, 2009 at 3:53 PM ^
As of right now, Bryant hasn't been removed from the 2010 Board here under "Useful stuff."
October 5th, 2009 at 1:57 PM ^
but don't want Swigert when Flowers, Sean Parker, and Dietrich Riley are still available. Anthony Barr still claims he will be making a visit and he may be a tough pull but, if he visits there is a chance. Like Grimes but not so much as a package deal with Murphy considering there's only six spots available. Would be happy to get Josh Shaw in place of the package deal especially since the staff is supposedly talking to a 5* DE who is committed to another school.
Really need a MLB but is one available that we would have a legitimate shot at?
October 5th, 2009 at 2:59 PM ^
Is this 5* DE that is already committed to another school named Chris Martin?
October 5th, 2009 at 3:12 PM ^
I believe he may be referring to T.J. Clemmings, a DE committed to Pitt.
October 5th, 2009 at 3:43 PM ^
We need someone to replace BG and he may be on the roster or not. I would have to believe if the staff can somehow land S. Floyd (Stokes family will definitely try to sway him)that we may see a more traditional 4-3 next year. Even if they don't I don't think you will be able to keep both Big Will and Martin off the field unless you move one of them to DE.
I can see a front of Will and Martin in the middle with RVB and Roh at DE. Unless they decide to move RVB to rush end, slide Will into the middle and move Martin to RVB's current spot.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:47 PM ^
Also, you can take 28 kids this year if 3 enroll early. You can count early enrollees in the previous class.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:51 PM ^
only if you have 28 scholarships to give out, which would take a good bit of attrition from the current roster
October 5th, 2009 at 4:11 PM ^
Depends on how many eligible for fifth years they bring back. My guess would be that Cone, Bryan Wright, Banks, and Patterson are unlikely. Schilling, Mouton, Ezeh, and Moundros for sure get fifth years. Question marks on Sheridan, Dorrestein, and Ferrera. That's a possiblity of seven scholarships right there. O'Neil, Clemons, Helmuth, and Wermers left and Feagin was exiled plus Witty didn't make it in.
Marvin Robinson got back his test score and is good to go. He will be the first early enrollee.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:26 PM ^
On the contrary, I think at least one of the Banks/Patterson combo is VERY likely. Banks is getting a fair amount of snaps, and the loss of either of those players would make our depth on the defensive line horribly thin.
Also, I think Dorrestein and Ferrara are pretty likely. We lose Ortmann next year, and Dorrestein is obviously the next best tackle (at least on the right side). We also lose Moosman, and Ferrara might be the next best guard.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:48 PM ^
We'll probably take a full class of 25, if not more, and sign some early enrollees back onto the 2009 class.
We don't need that many more offensive linemen. I'd say we take one more if we can convince Henderson to come or Torrian Wilson to decommit.
I've also maintained from the beginning that I don't think all five wide receivers will remain committed throughout the entire process.
I think we only need one true linebacker in this class, preferably a MIKE type. There are a bunch of young guys (Demens, Smith, Fitzgerald, Bell, Jones, Hawthorne) to fill the other spots.
October 5th, 2009 at 2:12 PM ^
At this point the LB recruiting worries me. Furman would be a SAM linebacker, I assume, so where would Aramide fit? Are we still in on any MIKE types?
I don't understand how LB's cannot be interested in playing right away. As much as I enjoy the staff stockpiling the defense with athletes, we need players that have set positions and can either play right away or at least compete.
October 5th, 2009 at 3:35 PM ^
You aren't too high on DJ Williamson. Who else do you think becomes BOOM Peace'd?
October 5th, 2009 at 1:49 PM ^
We truly need some more defensive guys coming in. Looking at it we should land Cullen possibly his teamate Ifill who would be another saftey. Grimes the CB from florida has previously said that he would like to attend school with his current teammate. Now that we have offered his budddy, who is a DE, we could be in good shape for both. If just those fell in to place we would have the 2 CBs, 1 S, and 1 DE that you are hoping for. We don't need 2-3 linemen maybe just one more. Linebacker will be a little tough as we are running out of prospects, pray for Josh Furman. To me that would be a good end to a great class.
October 5th, 2009 at 2:01 PM ^
Yes getting Cullen, Grimes (good ole grimey) and his teammate would be a good start to the end of this class IME
October 5th, 2009 at 2:35 PM ^
D-Fence? No, no, it's C-Fence...the Sonic guy said so.
October 5th, 2009 at 2:02 PM ^
Does anybody know if he will stay at RB or move to Linebacker. He plays both well.
October 5th, 2009 at 3:17 PM ^
RB all the way. Wont even get a look at LB.
October 5th, 2009 at 2:03 PM ^
Is Olaniyan being recruiting for one of the inside backer positions?
October 5th, 2009 at 2:20 PM ^
Aramide Olaniyan is being recruited as a SAM or a Quick, not an ILB. I think it depends on how big he gets.
We probably won't get Ifill, and we don't want him, anyway. He's not good enough to make a solid impact here. Of all the guys on our DB board, he's probably last or second-to-last, in my opinion.
October 5th, 2009 at 2:35 PM ^
Does that matter to Cullen Christian, whether we recruit Ifill? Who else is recruiting Ifill?
October 5th, 2009 at 2:39 PM ^
No, it doesn't matter to Cullen. They've both said it would just be a plus if they ended up playing together, but they're not trying to.
October 5th, 2009 at 2:42 PM ^
I think there's a lot of people that are unsure about Olaniyan, with his size. He just turned 17 a couple weeks ago, so he's young for his grade.
October 5th, 2009 at 2:34 PM ^
Anyone know anything about this guy, espn says we're his top choice. His recruit rating is an 80 and he is a safety, but none of the other sites seem to mention him.
October 5th, 2009 at 2:41 PM ^
He's visiting for the Ohio State game. We've been involved with him for awhile, he's just quiet about his recruitment. Illinois has come on strong with him lately, but he's very interested in Michigan.
I've said this before, but he's never been to Michigan's campus before, so he wants to wait to say anything about leaders until he visits. We're in pretty good shape for now, though.
October 5th, 2009 at 3:33 PM ^
I'm very interested in Illinois's continuing meltdown.
October 5th, 2009 at 3:38 PM ^
Also, I know Rashad was coveting that Florida State offer, but with the turmoil surrounding the program at the moment, things aren't looking to good. A few of their top recruits have already bailed and others are talking of opening their commitments.
Plus, Illinois is putting on a major suck show this season, so that can't hurt our chances.
October 5th, 2009 at 3:03 PM ^
Nice to have one thread dedicated to the potential recruits. I hope we can really make a big push and get some very solid defensive prospects to committ before the class is complete. Offensively I think we are pretty stacked so the addition of some good looking defensive players would be a huge plus IME.
October 5th, 2009 at 4:09 PM ^
What happened to Brandon Hawthorne? He came in early and practiced well from what I heard.
October 5th, 2009 at 4:18 PM ^
Stevie Brown has played well and deserves to be on the field. Hawthorne still needs to put on some weight and he's still a true freshmen give him time.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:42 PM ^
Stevie Brown to me has been playing lights out this year. That was a great job by Gerg to move him to OLB.
October 7th, 2009 at 7:45 PM ^
I third that, Brown made some huge plays against State, he made a couple monster tackles.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:32 PM ^
Just some info on Cullen Christian:
He got his Ohio State offer, and he's picking on Nov. 24th.
Top 5 still "michigan wvu pitt UCLA and OSU"
October 6th, 2009 at 1:36 AM ^
I see no one has mentioned Kenny Stills. Michigan just recently offered him and he seems excited about the offer:
"I still have Oklahoma and Florida set and when I set Michigan, that will be four with one left to go. I work out with Tate (Forcier) in the summer and he's doing great at Michigan. I was excited by that offer and look forward to learning more about them.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:19 AM ^
that we just NOW have offered a 5 star WR that has personal connections to our QB? It can't be that he wasn't a good fit or whatever, otherwise we never would have offered him. Qualifications issue?
Note: I have no knowledge of any of this, it's pure 100% speculation.
October 6th, 2009 at 2:47 AM ^
http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/kenny-stills-5-star-wr-out-california-has-i…
It's a couple pages back.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:16 AM ^
Has a lot of family in Oklahoma and he mentions it whenever he talks about his decision. If Stoops were to leave, maybe, but I wouldn't worry about holding a scholarship spot for him. It is highly unlikely he will decommit from Oklahoma.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:10 AM ^
We offered Kenny Stills awhile ago.
It might have something to do with the fact that we have 5 wide receivers in this class and the coaches were being careful with further offers. But maybe that's overthinking it.