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2010 Offensive and Defensive Player Surprises

What relatively unknown player will make an impact on Offense and Defense this season.

My vote (or desire) :

Offense:  T. Lewan

Defense:  J. Turner

 

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July 23rd, 2010 at 12:13 PM | Offense: Patrick (Score:1)
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Offense: Patrick Omameh

Defense: Cam Gordon

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July 23rd, 2010 at 12:15 PM | Vincent Smith.  Yes he was a (Score:1)
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Vincent Smith.  Yes he was a somewhat known commodity late last season, but the unknown is how he comes back from the torn ACL. 

Ryan Van Bergen.  If Will Campbell lives up to 75% of his hype and owns the NT position demanding double teams, Van Bergen can have a huge year as he will be one on one with a tackle or tight end.

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July 23rd, 2010 at 12:15 PM | Bill Hagerup. (Score:1)
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Bill Hagerup.

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July 23rd, 2010 at 12:26 PM | Emperor Zoltan was extremely (Score:1)
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Emperor Zoltan was extremely important over the last few years.  Hopefully, this year, it will not be required that the punter break out.  However, he must be good enough for us to know that he goes by the name Will.

I just destroyed that toilet with a huge Rosenberg.

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July 23rd, 2010 at 12:36 PM | I think we should go "old (Score:1)
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I think we should go "old school" and begin calling him Bill.

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July 23rd, 2010 at 1:01 PM | I'm fond of... (Score:1)
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Slick Willy

I'm kind of a big deal in Bolivia.

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July 23rd, 2010 at 1:17 PM | I never went by Bill but (Score:1)
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I never went by Bill but professors would ALWAYS call me it.  I went to get a new badge for work, and of course the name that appears on it is "Bill"

Funny thing, my name is really Frank.

Touchdown Michigan!

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July 23rd, 2010 at 1:01 PM | He is a special teams player. (Score:1)
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He is a special teams player.

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July 23rd, 2010 at 12:17 PM | Offense: Je'Ron (Score:1)
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Offense: Je'Ron Stokes

Defense: Josh Furman...I feel his speed gets him some PT.

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July 23rd, 2010 at 12:18 PM | You should define "unknown" a (Score:1)
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You should define "unknown" a little bit. If you mean "unknown" by "hasn't played," I would say you might be right with Lewan and I would substitute Marvin Robinson or Jibreel Black for Turner.

But if you mean "unknown" as "underrated player who hasn't gotten intense recruiting / spring hype and will pleasantly surprise us this year," your players don't qualify. And if those are the parameters, I would say there aren't that many that qualify on offense but I'll spring for (hopefully) Drew Dileo, particularly on returns, and Floyd Simmons as a situational defender.

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July 23rd, 2010 at 4:29 PM | Your must be a really unhappy (Score:1)
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We will have our vengeance- Michigan football 2010 

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July 23rd, 2010 at 12:17 PM | Hard to say who (Score:1)
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Hard to say who is relatively unknown on this blog (there's so much information here), but here are my choices:

Offense: Mike Cox

Defense: Cullen Christian

Special Teams: Jeremy Gallon

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July 23rd, 2010 at 12:22 PM | Offense: Mike (Score:1)
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Offense: Mike Cox

 

Defense: Kenny Demens

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July 23rd, 2010 at 2:04 PM | yes.....agree (Score:1)
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and will throw Jeremy Gallon in on special teams.

The SQUASHman

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July 23rd, 2010 at 12:23 PM | Offense: Stephen Hopkins (I (Score:1)
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Offense: Stephen Hopkins (I think he will get some PT and become the Thumper back of the group)

Defense: Cullen Christian

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July 23rd, 2010 at 12:33 PM | Hmmm... (Score:1)
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Offense: Fitz Toussaint

Defense: Marvin Robinson's abs

EDIT: After reading being reminded by today's countdown entry at Touch the Banner, I would consider replacing Je'Ron Stokes for Fitz.

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July 23rd, 2010 at 12:27 PM | I'll say the big impact from unknown player (Score:1)
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comes from Carvin Johnson. His lack of Guru hype then avalanche of attention once he committed to M has me excited about his potential. On offense, I'll have to say Fitz just because of his overall ability.

Has the whole world gone CRAZY!?!

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July 23rd, 2010 at 12:47 PM | I agree (Score:1)
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with Carvin.  Scout is saying that he is much faster than expected and is expected to compete to be in the 2 deep at one of the safety positions (including deep safety).

Any help we can get in the secondary from the incoming freshman would be a huge plus.

On offense: I'm going with Terrence Robinson.  Get him the ball in some open space and he is dangerous!

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July 23rd, 2010 at 1:51 PM | Yep Carvin (Score:1)
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Also on NCAA 11 when I was smoking Mass I put in the second string D and Carvin was the man.  He had 2 pick 6's and a strip in 2 quarters.  So hopefully NCAA 11 got him right.

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July 23rd, 2010 at 12:28 PM | Offense: T. Lewan (Score:1)
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Offense: T. Lewan

Defense: C. Gordon

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July 23rd, 2010 at 12:29 PM | O & D surprise impact players (Score:1)
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Offense: Terrence Robinson

Defense: Thomas Gordon (spur)

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July 23rd, 2010 at 3:46 PM | I (Score:1)
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I want to see the 'Dream Shake' at least once this year.

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July 23rd, 2010 at 12:45 PM | Offense:  Je'Ron Stokes?  The (Score:1)
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Offense:  Je'Ron Stokes?  The outside WR position seems pretty open as neither Stonum nor Hemmingway have stepped up to become stars. 

Defense: Will Campbell.  Does he count as a "surprise"? 

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July 23rd, 2010 at 12:53 PM | if he can stay healthy (Score:1)
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if he can stay healthy (history suggests this is unlikely), i actually think hemingway could be a solid outside reciever. the qbs just need to get him the damn ball

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July 23rd, 2010 at 12:45 PM | Hmm. (Score:1)
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Going with Fitz on Offense and Cullen Christian on D.

No reason. I don't even know if they have good PAD LEVEL.

Just makin' sacrifices to Jobu so that there are multiple surprises on both sides of the ball......

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July 23rd, 2010 at 12:47 PM | Impact players (Score:1)
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Offense: Denard Robinson, teams will be surpised Michigan has developed warp speed.

Defense: Mike Martin, teams will be surpised Michigan has a real live, living hulk.

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July 23rd, 2010 at 12:59 PM | I think you missed the word, (Score:1)
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Surprise

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July 23rd, 2010 at 1:18 PM | What, you mean like (Score:1)
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What, you mean like "Supplies!"?

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July 23rd, 2010 at 1:29 PM | What? (Score:1)
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I don't get it.

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July 23rd, 2010 at 1:47 PM | Sorry (Score:1)
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It really had nothing to do with your comment. 

It was in reference to a joke that is only funny because of how bad it is.  The punch line of the joke is an asian man jumping out and yelling "supplies!" when he means "surprise!".

Despite how bad the joke is, the punchline has always cracked me up for some reason.  When ever I hear the word surprise, I usually have to suppress an urge to reply with jazz hands and "supplies!".

Sorry for the thread-jack.

 

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July 23rd, 2010 at 2:46 PM | UHF (Score:1)
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It's from Weird Al's movie "UHF"

"Why would you ask a dumb question like that?"  -Lloyd Carr

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July 23rd, 2010 at 3:00 PM | I always loved that joke.... (Score:1)
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but I have one question....what the fuck is a frush?

 

I do not mean to pry, but you don't by any chance happen to have six fingers on your right hand?

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July 23rd, 2010 at 1:24 PM | surprise (Score:1)
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Martin and Robinson playing well won't surprise us, but they'll surprise people who don't follow us closely. Martin seems to be getting next to no attention in the national press. It also seems that they see Robinson only as a runner who can't throw, and so they see our QB situation as "Forcier can't even beat out Robinson now, they're really in trouble" whereas we see it as "Robinson has made so much progress, now we have 2 viable starters".

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July 23rd, 2010 at 12:49 PM | Campbell (Score:1)
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Will Campbell has to be a beast this year for us.  Otherwise, I'm worried.

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July 23rd, 2010 at 12:52 PM | Offense: Michael (Score:1)
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Offense: Michael Cox

Defense: Greg Banks

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July 23rd, 2010 at 12:58 PM | good call on banks...as much (Score:1)
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good call on banks...as much as id like campbell to have a breakout yr, im keeping my expectations limited until he can prove himself

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July 23rd, 2010 at 1:07 PM | I really do think many on (Score:1)
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I really do think many on this blog are making an incorrect assumption that the three defensive linemen will be Van Bergen, Campbell, and Martin.  I don't think Campbell is going to get as much PT as a lot of people expect, and Martin isn't a great fit at DE. 

My prediction is RVB, Martin, and Banks on the front line, but with a solid dose of Campbell and Sagesse as backups.

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July 23rd, 2010 at 2:53 PM | It sure will (Score:1)
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be nice to have fresh legs on the defensive line.  I think part of why we played so poorly in the 2nd half of games last year is because of how limited the DL rotation was.

Furthermore, our DL will have versatility too.  In Short yardage situations we have the ability to go with a much bigger lineup.

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July 23rd, 2010 at 7:12 PM | Yea I agree.  I was skeptical (Score:1)
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Yea I agree.  I was skeptical of the switch to the 3-3-5 or whatever defensive scheme we have now, but the more I think about it seems like a really smart move considering the players we have.

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July 23rd, 2010 at 1:07 PM | I know people are really high (Score:1)
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I know people are really high on the RVB-Campbell-Martin lineup but I would really rather have RVB-Martin-Banks, which if I recall correctly, is your preference as well. Martin's a proven beast in the middle, and Banks is experienced and pretty technique-sound. Another year of spot duty for Big Will wouldn't hurt him.

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July 23rd, 2010 at 1:12 PM | Uh.. (Score:1)
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Not to be mean but Greg Banks has done literally nothing since his time at Michigan. 

Last year he played in 11 games and had 5 tackles

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July 23rd, 2010 at 1:15 PM | How do you expect someone to (Score:1)
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How do you expect someone to get significant action when they've been behind Brandon Graham for so long on the depth chart? He didn't get playing time because he was playing behind a future first round draft pick. I'm not saying he's going to be a star player, I just think he's more developed and refined than Big Will. 

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July 23rd, 2010 at 3:44 PM | if the guy couldn't get on (Score:1)
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if the guy couldn't get on the field during two years of the worst defenses michigan has ever produced, what makes you think he would be able to contribute more than Big Will this year? Maybe he'll prove me wrong, but I'd much rather see a RVB-Campbell-Martin starting lineup than a RVB-Martin-Banks

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July 23rd, 2010 at 3:48 PM | Well, he was behind Brandon (Score:1)
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Well, he was behind Brandon Graham (a 1st round pick) in 2007 and 2008.  Then in 2009 he was behind Ryan Van Bergen, a pretty solid player in his own right.

But hey, Ryan Mallett was Chad Henne's backup at one point, so Mallett must not be very good, either...

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July 23rd, 2010 at 4:04 PM | that's an entirely different (Score:1)
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that's an entirely different situation. Obviously a true freashman isn't going to beat out a four-year starter. Greg Banks has been in the program for four years without showing any real evidence that he'd be a productive starter. I don't think he's a terrible player, but if Greg Banks is starting next year then doesn't that say more about Big Will than it does about him?

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July 23rd, 2010 at 4:33 PM | Banks was getting a lot of buzz (Score:1)
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last year as being as good as the regulars for two plays, but then his performance would drop off for the next two or so.  He just wasn't consistent enough to regularly play.  I don't think anyone was calling him the next BG, but they were saying that he held up well when he was in and wasn't a liability.  Of course, with the way our linebackers were playing last year, who was trying to attack the edge?  I think he's going to look a lot like Biggs or Roy Manning did earlier in the decade.  He's got one year to make his mark after a truly special player left.  If he can give us that, Will Campbell gets a chance to learn without being there every down.  I think RVB  Martin  Banks isn't going to hurt us as much as RVB  (still raw WC)  (out of position) MM does.

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July 23rd, 2010 at 5:14 PM |   Banks was getting a lot (Score:1)
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Banks was getting a lot of buzz
 

last year as being as good as the regulars for two plays, but then his performance would drop off for the next two or so.

 

Sounds like a John Hankins type of player.

Welllughhh. Yaknow.

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July 23rd, 2010 at 4:47 PM | This argument might be more valid (Score:1)
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if Banks was a back-up DB.

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July 23rd, 2010 at 1:24 PM | Is this supposed to be a case (Score:1)
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Is this supposed to be a case for Will Campbell?  Because he could be described in virtually the exact same way.  Campbell played in 9 games and made 4 tackles.

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July 23rd, 2010 at 1:43 PM | This is so true but, (Score:1)
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Campbell has much more talent in my opinion then Greg Banks.  Banks was only a 3 star out of high school compared to Big Will being a blue chip.  I'm just saying I highly doubt Banks is going to be a big contributer.  He'll be alright but not a big contributor.

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