2009 start vs. 2011 start
Posted for user "stopthewnba" who doesn't have enough points to post.
The first 3 games of 2009 and 2011 were all at home vs. Western, Notre Dame, and Eastern.
812 rushing in 2009 680 in 2011
Defense breakdown :
Individual games breakdown :
Western (defense): 301yds/279 yds
September 20th, 2011 at 4:01 PM ^
Thanks for posting on my behalf. Hopefully avoiding Delaware on the 2011 slate will be the turning point.
September 20th, 2011 at 4:06 PM ^
mildly terrifying....I could see SDSU being this years 2009 Indiana (a bit more run oriented though) to complete the eery similarities
September 20th, 2011 at 4:32 PM ^
Scary issue though: I think SDSU could stomp Indiana.
September 20th, 2011 at 7:36 PM ^
The same way they stomped Army 23 - 20?
The sky...it is not falling...and yes, I am aware of the Army Northwestern result/
September 20th, 2011 at 7:36 PM ^
To be fair, the 2011 version of Notre Dame we miraculously beat would have curb stomped the 2009 version of Notre Dame we miraculously beat--even after turning it over five times.
For about 15 years, I thought Notre Dame looked relatively unathletic, slow, and just plain not good. This Notre Dame team is big, fast, physical, and talented.
September 20th, 2011 at 4:11 PM ^
rhymes not exactly repeats, like we will rhyme with 1969 and upset Wisconsin in the Championship game in the coaches 1st year.
September 20th, 2011 at 4:17 PM ^
End of the Notre Dame game.
Denard's number is 16 and the last pass is from the 16 yd line. That pass is caught for a touchdown with ":02" left, sending ND to an "0-2" record.
September 20th, 2011 at 4:21 PM ^
that there were CIA agents on the grassy knoll?
[redacted rest of it, just a joke but maybe in poor taste for this blog]
September 20th, 2011 at 4:29 PM ^
The inaugural Big Ten Football Championship Game will begin at 8:17 p.m. ET on December 3, 2011
2011-817-12-3 = 1179
1+9+7-1=16
September 20th, 2011 at 4:36 PM ^
Mod Edit: We're going to avoid that topic until time actually ends. [zl]
I know it's generally funny, but religion is not a topic for MGoBlog.
September 20th, 2011 at 4:24 PM ^
Wore #3 at ND
September 20th, 2011 at 4:15 PM ^
This week in 2009 we were ranked 22/23. This week we're 21/22.
September 20th, 2011 at 4:29 PM ^
I guess that means we are slightly better this year than in 2009. That means, we will be down by 2 scores against MSU and come back to tie it, but this time we will win in overtime.
September 20th, 2011 at 4:24 PM ^
It showed progress, and didn't fit within the "dude this is weird" theme.
This is not a statistical analysis, or a real comparison of where we are today vs. 2009. At most, a reminder that we really aren't where we need to be...
September 20th, 2011 at 4:42 PM ^
Not really. We threw the same number of interceptions through the 3 games and had 0 fumbles. There were the same number of turnovers from WMU and EMU. The only difference has been ND and I think it's pretty well established that ND shot itself in the foot with turn overs.
September 20th, 2011 at 4:36 PM ^
2009
WMU - 3 MICH - 1
ND - 1 MICH - 1
EMU - 2 MICH - 2
2011
WMU - 3 MICH - 0
ND - 5 MICH - 3
EMU - 2 MICH - 1
September 20th, 2011 at 4:18 PM ^
I'll add, all three are much better teams in '11 than '09.
2009 EMU 0-12!
2009 WMU 5-7
2009 ND 6-6
September 20th, 2011 at 4:36 PM ^
I think this is a valid point. Maybe I'm crazy, but I don't see ND losing more than two games for the rest of the season.
September 20th, 2011 at 4:23 PM ^
That damn WMU screws it all up though...We didn't get to the 4th qtr and were about to score in the 3rd when the game was called.
September 20th, 2011 at 4:33 PM ^
this year i'm scared. Offence has regressed, Defence looks slightly improved and I think from what I saw has potential to be "average" this year. but unless we can figure out how to get some sort of reliable passing game I don't see who we survive the big ten schedule.
September 20th, 2011 at 10:03 PM ^
But the team is more like 2010 - except with a better D and a worse, streakier O. That said they do seem to be getting better week to week. Let's just remain nervous and ride this wave. Who knows? It may take us all the way to Pasadena in this year's B1G.
September 20th, 2011 at 4:34 PM ^
September 20th, 2011 at 4:35 PM ^
This post makes me sad. But thanks to the poster that pointed out EMU/WMU/ND may be improved in 2011 (at the very least EMU prob is, not sure it's clear WMU/ND is just yet).
September 20th, 2011 at 7:15 PM ^
WMU just trounced CMU by 30 points. They could be a MAC contender.
As for ND, they really look like a quality team. Maybe they'll just keep on being incredibly mistake-prone, but I doubt it.
September 20th, 2011 at 4:44 PM ^
WMU - no. Didn't they have an awesomer draft-ready QB last time??
ND - they had Clausen last time .... and Charlie.
PS I used "awesomer" as a joke, not because I am an idiot.
September 20th, 2011 at 5:42 PM ^
One of WMUs wins in '09 was against EMU which could be the worserest (opposite of awesomer) team ever. WMUs offense looks pretty good right now. I've watched three ND games (not proud of this) and I think their O-line is tremendous, great receivers and they have one the best linebackers in the country. They beat MSU fairly easily and remember MSU was ranked #15. Who knows if these teams are better, but I think it's clear we are, and that makes me feel a bit better going forward.
My preseason predict was 10-2 and I'm sticking with it. I'm probably an idiot but like I've said before someone has to be a homer around here.
September 20th, 2011 at 5:48 PM ^
Well WMU was thought to have those things...and then fell flat on their face. They lost to 2-10 Ball State to close out that season.
September 20th, 2011 at 4:44 PM ^
ND clobbered MSU. I would like to think the outcome of that game makes it seem more likely that MSU is a win for us this year.
September 20th, 2011 at 4:49 PM ^
We were fortunate enough to have ND derp spectacularly in the red zone on multiple occasions, so I wouldn't make any assumptions there.
September 20th, 2011 at 9:59 PM ^
Which made all of us confident that we'd beat them too
September 20th, 2011 at 4:53 PM ^
The numbers are a little disconcerting, but in all honesty, I think this is the worst team Hoke will ever have here, and it isn't really a bad team at all. There are trends on defense that are positive, particularly the in-game adjustments, and while the offense seems pretty flat at times, I think they are experimenting with Denard and trying to feel out the advantages / disadvantages of using him in various formations. On offense, I think Borges & Co. are still trying to figure out what exactly they have here.
September 20th, 2011 at 5:08 PM ^
...than I did, when I posted a similar thing last Saturday afternoon:
September 20th, 2011 at 5:16 PM ^
That appears to be identical...
September 20th, 2011 at 5:41 PM ^
This OP (whoever gets credit for it) pulled some interesting numbers out that I didn't. The exact same margin of victory in all three games ?!? I sort of intuited that, but never put it together.
Anyway, there's no harm, there's no foul and no doubt none was intended by the OP. I think a lot of people had the same (rather obvious) idea, based on the three opponents and the similar results.
I'm just getting a kick out of how the two original posts were scored by the readers.
September 20th, 2011 at 5:28 PM ^
Aw man, sorry it's like that Section 1. I just made a private MgoResolution not to judge you unfairly going forward.
September 20th, 2011 at 8:36 PM ^
Yeah , or like when espn put it on after the Michigan emu highlight for three days straight.
September 20th, 2011 at 5:16 PM ^
The margin of victory being the same in all three games is thanks to the rain/lightening against Western. When that game was called, we had all the momentum, the stadium was incredibly loud and we were just about to score to make it 41-10. I have no doubt we would have scored a couple more times if the 4th quarter had been played.
The main difference I like from this year as opposed to 2009 (and 2010) is that we didn't play like crap the week after playing Notre Dame. The defense played bad in one quarter and then played great the rest of the way. 2009 Eastern and 2010 UMass defense wise was an eye opener which led to the confirmation against Indiana that we were screwed the rest of the way.
I think the majority of fans saw the SDSU game as a trap game or dog fight even before the season started.
September 20th, 2011 at 6:09 PM ^
2009: RR
2011: Brady Hoke.
You forgot that one little detail
September 20th, 2011 at 7:19 PM ^
Kinda reminds me of 2009. Fastest ship in the world!
September 21st, 2011 at 8:13 AM ^
The stat that jumped out at me was the rushing total against us. Perhaps it is b/c teams still thought they could not run it against a michigan defense back in 2009 but now the cats out of the bag so to speak.