18 years ago today:
Dreisbach to Hayes on the final play.
I can still vividly picture the ref pointing at the ground where his feet landed then raising his arms to signal touchdown. The Barber combination couldn't finish it off and Lloyd got his first win as head coach.
Of the end zone. Last game I attended in my undergrad stint in Ann Arbor before I moved out of town (graduated in May, started new job in September, game was end of August).
I was also in that corner of the end zone.
It was my junior year, and I specifically remember the leadup to the game - because even though the game was at the Big House, it WASN'T included in the student ticket package... and I had to hunt down tickets from a scalper... which was why I ened up in that corner of the end zone.
It was my first year of law school and I remember it being sooooo HOT!! Great comeback!!
This is the play that made me a Wolverines fan at 8 years old... and probably a big reason why I ultimately went to school there. Also, holy crap that was 18 years ago.
Exactly what I was thinking. Dreisbach was 18 years ago? Shit.
Imagine how I feel when I think about the '73 10-10 tie that I attended.
Me too. Dennis Franklin days if I remember right.
Was 8 years old and it was the first game I can vividly remember as kid.
Today is also the 196th birthday of the University of Michigan. Or known back then as the Catholepistemiad of Michigania and was based in Detroit.
Strange we don't have more chants using Catholepistemiad of Michigania.
the Catholepistemiad Men Of Michigania!
"Don't give a damn about the whole Catholepistemiad of Michigania" - Brutus' Grandpa.
...until the Catholepistemiad Carcajou once again rule the gridiron.
It's Catholepistemiad of Michigania Fergodsakes!
In the archives of Sports Illustrated, there exists this piece about this game - HERE
This passage includes what I assume is a decent summation of Dreisbach's feelings on the final play:
Carr called a double-post corner route, and wideout Mercury Hayes broke sharply toward the right corner of the end zone. Dreisbach lofted a perfect spiral to Hayes, who somehow managed to get his left foot in bounds with no more than a nanometer to spare. "It seemed like five minutes," Dreisbach said, "before the referee put his hands in the air." Final score: 18-17.
Walk-off Touchdown. They did not even kick the extra point. One of the rare few at Michigan Stadium to ever happen.
The others I rememeber: against Penn State in 2005, and Colorado's in 1994.
For all I know, Bo could kicked the extra point himself, but no one in the stadium would have seen him :)
"They're not going to kick the extra point! Who cares? Who gives a damn!" Oh, man. That was the walkoff I attended.
Always like that Mercury Hayes guy...
Anyone else think he was out?
He gets his toe down. It was a good call.
How can you possibly be so sure? Is there a replay that I haven't seen? Can you even tell me which foot was in?
If this is sarcasm, it's completely lost on me because there's no way you could be serious. But just in case, 1 minute in...
Any other cherished memories you wish to take away?
I'm being completely serious. The official was right there and he hesitated for two long seconds for some reason. With this angle it looks like his left toe might be in (or it might be two inches off the ground) but I don't know how everyone pretends like this is indisputable. His right foot that he was trying to drag was clearly off the ground and out of bounds. I had just moved a few days before the game and didn't see it live so I'm just going off of what I've seen on YouTube. I think I've got a higher quality copy of the game so maybe I should make a video if for no other than reason than to prove to myself that he was in.
happened right in front of me. i had 3rd row seat in the corner there. his left foot was clearly in bounds, however, i thought the ref was surely going to call him out of bounds because of his right foot. he made the correct call.
I don't see it, maybe because I read about it in the newspaper the next day and have no emotional attachment to the play or the celebration of it. You obviously do since you were in the stadium and it happened right in front of you. I doubt you, the official or anyone else could judge at live speed if his toe was in when he had possession. That's why we have instant replay now. I think he could have called it either way. That's why Musberger said "He gave it to him". I doubt we get that call in South Bend or Columbus.
I guess I just don't see the point. If you don't see it, you don't see it. But it's clearly a touchdown.
C'mon Bando, you've been around these parts long enough to know that "because I said so" isn't a persuasive argument. It was ruled a TD and has become clear in your mind over 18 years, but I just watched a clean 480p copy of the end of the game, and one thing that you don't see in WH's edit is that it took a full five minutes of officials discussing with each other and explanations to the coaches before they finally ruled the game over. Five minutes during which not a single Virginia player left their sideline. This is not what normally happens when a game ends without controversy. After five minutes, Virginia refused to send out their PAT team and the game was called. Penn State didn't refuse to leave the field in 2005 even though Paterno wasn't pleased with them adding time to the clock. While the Michigan narrative has become biggest comeback in school history (at the time)/The Catch, the AP story I read the next day was Michigan struggles with Virginia/Virginia gets jobbed in The Big House on last second controversial call.
RE the call itself, 1) his right foot was way out and 2) his left toe was either on the line or just inside of it. There is no way to say for sure from the angles that were shown. If the same play happened today it would definitely be reviewed. The Danny Coale catch looked good live in full HD. Nobody knows what we would see if there was an official review with decent camera angles. It was then and is still today a controversial call.
We are all glad they called it a TD right?!
Yeah obviously, a win is a win.
"If the same play happened today it would definitely be reviewed. "
And at worst, the ruling would be that the call on the field stands (as opposed to the call on the field is confirmed). Too close to overturn.
Too close to overturn with 1995 Wolverine Historian (according to WH, Michigan has never lost a game) edited highlights, yeah. If the same play happens on Saturday, it's 50/50 getting overturned.
is due to his making sure Hayes hung onto the ball. He then immediately points to the ground and signals a touchdown.
I don't think there was really any dispute as the ref had a clean view, watched the full play and then rather emphatically pointed to the field and made the touchdown call. We wouldn't be able to see from television, of course, but it's even possible that he was pointing at a footprint in the grass to confirm the call.
And frankly, thank goodness, this was a call in the pre-replay days. The delayed gratification of waiting for television confirmation has really sucked the life out of sports.
The official hesitated to make sure he completed the catch. If you watch the official he is looking at his feet to make sure he was in and then looks around the Virginia player to be sure Hayes had the ball. In fact, I'd argue that the official didn't hesitate one bit. He viewed the play to it's full extent and made the call. He watches his feet, looks to confirm the catch and then points to the fact that he saw his foot inbounds and then raises his arms to signal touchdown. Essentially his actions showed you his thought process. "Ok I've seen his foot inbounds, did he hang on? Yes? Ok his foot was right there, that's a touchdown." He did his job as effectively as I've ever seen an official make a call in that type of situation.
Unlike the two guys who agreed to disagree last year when Golden Tate was awarded the game winning touchdown for Seattle against Green Bay last year. They had replay and still got that one wrong.
Yeah, I don't know how you look at this tape and say it wasn't a catch. If you watch the ref closely, his eyes follow Hayes to the wall not to buy time to make the call on the feet, but to make sure he had actually caught the ball. The guy was in perfect position, looking right where it mattered, and made the right call. That's all there is to it.
I think he got BOTH feet in. See at 9:50 here:
I ran yelling into my front yard.
I was with the three guys who were my best friends in AA from 1980-1982.
We were celebrating one of us soon to be married. In Vegas.
Game started at 9:00AM. We went to the MGM Grand Sports book, all bet 100 on Michigan to win and settled into the free drinks. Michigan didn't cover and we lost the bets but were ecstatically tearing up our tickets. It's great to be a Michigan Wolverine.
disclaimer - i don't do this. but bet against michigan in any big game. that way, if they lose, you at least get a payout. if they win, who cares about the $.
That's exactly the lesson I learned.
Me too. It's my "hedge fund" approach to Michigan.
I bet against Michigan for extremely emotional games, such as Ohio State every year. I call it Michigan insurance. I ask myself before the game, "What would I pay to guarantee a Michigan win?" Then I bet that amount on the opponent's money line. When Michigan wins, I happily lose the bet. When Michigan loses, it's a small consolation.
must not be a UM fan since he negged the OP. Odd that he couldn't bring himself to actually comment on why he negged the anniversary of one of the great Michigan victories in the last 25 years.
At the time. Since equaled by Braylonfest vs MSU in 2004 and ND UTL in 2011.
Wisconsin 2008 trumped them all, of course, coming back from 19 down.
@ Minn in 2003 was a bigger comeback than all of them.
...and didn't in the old days they used to always run a stat on television about how Michigan had never come back to win from a deficit larger than 14 points (or something like that)?
It used to be quite dreadful when the Wolverines fell behind.
3 yards and a cloud of dust...not exactly built for scoring lots of points in a hurry or coming from behind.
This is so cool to think about again.
I was there too. But I would use some other description than "cool".
It was scorching hot that day. I felt sorry for our players having to wear their dark jerseys while VA got to wear white. I'm still convinced that this played a part in their lethargic play until the 4th quarter.
My dad took me to my first ever game at Michigan Stadium that day. Before, my Saturdays were speckled with coloring books, cartoons, and playgrounds. My Autumn Saturdays after that would be forever changed.
Went with my dad and big sister. I recall reading that it was the first game Jordan Kovacs attended as well.
This game was one of my very first Michigan football moments that I can vividly remember (6 at the time) and Ill never forget this play...one of the greatest!
I got married.
Are you my sister? Because her wedding was approximately 15 minutes after the end of that game. I spent the whole game in my rent-a-tux, sweating and cursing and vomiting (and then I turned on the game, hey-o!!!) and when it was over I collapsed in a heap in my hotel room.
But on the bright side, I never forget my sister's anniversary, nor how long she's been married. It's just
now - Dreisbach/Hayes = how long my sister has been married
Section 3 row 6...going absolutely bonkers...what an amazing game that was.
10 rows up. Fun game. I got stung by a wasp. Cool story huh.
A classic play in the history of Michigan Football.
Scott Dreisbach is coaching in Austin, TX now.
Damn Scott Dreisbach's traitorous thumb...
That might be the hottest game I've ever been to at Michigan Stadium. For a time my wife had to go sit in the shade. At that point we'd been married just 29 days, now it is 18 years. It was well over 100 degrees on the field and, if I recall, they had just outlawed any liquids being brought in. The lines for the "free Absopure water" were super long and I think they ran out of bottled water. That lead to the period of time where you could bring in water, but only if it was in an unopened bottle.
One week later we were visiting my parents who lived on the TPC course at Avenel (in Northern VA). My dad and I were golfing and at the proshop they asked if we'd mind if a single joined us, which was no problem. The guy turned out to be 6'4" and built like a tank. He asked about my Michigan hat and if I'd gone there. Turned out he was a former linebacker for UVA. I was nervous for a moment, but he congratulated me on the win and turned out to be a really nice guy.
Anticlimactic story, bro.
It was incredibly hot and the liquid ban had just become the rule.
I was 10. Wow, 18 years is kinda fast
That I am way older that most of you!
We had a family wedding that afternoon and a row full of out-of-town relatives in our seats. We stayed at the stadium as long as we possibly could (I think we left mid-3rd quarter, when things weren't going well anyway), hauled ass back home, and caught the last 5 minutes of the game huddled around a TV as we put on our suits. Still feels wrong I missed it in person, but at the same time, it's still an awesome memory.
And holy hell was it hot that day. First August game in Michigan Stadium, about a thousand degrees, full-on sun beating down... Just horrendous.
...for another HOT August day this Saturday vs. CMU. Last weather forecast I saw was sunny, hot and humid, upper 80's.
Just watching the local forecast on the TV right now, the weather outlook for SW Michigan/Northern Indiana ("Michiana" ) Saturday is 92 with late afternoon T-Storms possible.
part two. Bring your deodorant, people. I'm specifically talking to those who sit by me. Section 24. Thanks.
Both graduated from UVA, but my dad moved up to Ann Arbor to do post-grad work at UM. We were in the middle of the UVA section though, and the guys in front of us literally started crying after that play. Tears of unfathomable sadness.
My brother, who had turned 21 one week earlier, was so happy that he bought the 14-year-old me a 40oz. to celebrate. Cool story, brought to you by my bro.
I was sitting in a channel 2 truck with a feed for the tv truck to the beta deck that we used to record the game.
As I remember it was really hot that day. I logged the game. Writing down every play and the time code. You write the time code down so the editor back at Chanel 2 could find the key plays and highlights. For coach Carr to talk about. This was my first year working in tv. And I was part of a show that I grew up on. And Michigan won! Great day. I talked to coach Carr before the taping of the show. I told him great win. And sat next to his wife while they taped the show. Great memories! I can't believe it's been 18 years.
You should help do the UFR's. That way we won't have to wait 9 months to see the last ones.
damn hot that day. So damn hot.
Took me like two days to recover just from baking and sweating in the sun,
Yeah, the two things that I remember about that day; the final play and how fucking hot it was. That game is like Top 5 of all time hottest games I've ever attended.
First year my family had season tickets. Michigan was awful for most of the game. It seemed like the only good game Driesbach had as a Michigan QB.
And of course how can we forget the grattitude we must offer to Mr. Butterfield for his well timed, intentionally dropped pass that made the victory possible.
I was fortunate enough to have an uncle who had season tickets growing up. I was even more fortunate to have him bring me to this game. We were sitting to high in that endzone to know if he caught it or not. We just went nuts off the fan reaction. My uncle passed away in 2000 of cancer. I have season tickets now, and there isnt a football weekend in Ann Arbor when i dont think of him.
at my parents house in the upstairs room watching this game in CA. Wasn't flying back for class until the next week because this was an early kickoff game. I just remember being so nervous then yelling my head off. Haha.
I was 13, drove from California to watch it, hell of a first game.
Tiki Barber tearing us up, Rhonde was at safety. Almost a nightmare first game for me.
I don't remember if I was at school already (Markley hooo!), I just remember the game was a week early (Kickoff Classic) and not part of the student ticket package.
I was 12 years old when that happened. I watched it live from my friends bedroom. Me and 3 other of my friends were jumping up and down screaming after it happened for what seemed like 5 minutes. It is still one of my most favorite memories of Michigan football from when I was young.
A difficult catch for me to make.
This was one of the first big plays I remember, that's why I created this handle. Also wanted to name my dog Mercury but the GF said no. I ended up naming the dog Charlie instead.
You're dog must be quite fat so Charlie is a better name for it than Mercury....
I write this. That picture appeared in the Ann Arbor News the following day and you could have bought it from the newspaper. Hayes made the catch with both feet in and that photo demonstrates it in full color.
What a comeback in Lloyd Carr's first game as coach on a brutally hot August Saturday.
Shhh... MGoVideo is still trying to prove Mercury was out of bounds...