Sam Webb @SamWebb77
...says Denzel Valentine of Big Ten Tourney favorite MSU, which is 5-7 in its last 12 games. Cumong, man.
You're pretty quick on the draw
What's our chances?
He reportedly loved his time spent with the coaches and he is leaning towards playing football with Michigan being his choice if he played football and MSU being his choice if he played basketball. But we'll see.
With no inside info, I tend to agree. From what I hear/read he tore it up at the Michigan camp and the coaches really liked him. Everyone talks about his upside being higher in football (which makes sense given his size and athletic ability), I think if he is thinking more on footbal he has a better connection with our coaches (after last week). Also the timing seems good- right after our camp.
Is it possible for him to play both at Michgan? What's the scholarship rule for 2 sport athletes? I'm guessing it would count away from both.
just football. He has been told he can play both at Michigan (same with MSU I beleive)
Does he have a basketball offer from MSU/UofM? I thought only Booker, Bates-Diop and now Bluiett have offers from Beilein.
I'm guessing that if he wanted basketball to be his primary sport, he would want to go to a school that gave him one.
It wouldn't matter. If he played both sports, he'd have to take the scholarship in football and walk-on the basketball teams. I believe the only way around it would be to play basketball first, and then try-out for the football team afterwards.
This avoids getting extra scholarships by having your men's track team full of football scholarships.
Coach B doesn't have to offer him, he'd have his football scholarship and would walk on the basketball team after football season.
It's hard to be a dual sport player.
My point was more that if he wants to play basketball at Mich he may find it meaningful that he doesnt have a scholarship and would have to play football and walk on the basktball team.
MSU was the first school that told him he could play both.
In the not too long running of my not too long memory, your best post!
And now my real answer:
If we're not chosen for his football commitment, do you think we have a chance for his basketball one?
Able to play basketball at one school and football at another?
Sorry dude but can you stop posting for a year or something, every single single one of your posts get downvoted and there is a reason for it.
Take a redshirt year and learn from the bench, I know you want immediate posting time but I just don't think it's in the blogs best interest for you to post. It's hurting the blog, and no man is greater than the blog.
The Blog. The Blog. The Blog
Here's your solution, "Mr Mario:" change your handle and buy a style book. Learn the basics, such as punctuation and correct word usage. Then, come back as a "whole new you" and see if you can "hang with the big boys."
One other thing: you might want to stop reading replies. It will keep you from getting sucked into those pointless arguments that always end badly.
i have no idea what "past rant" you're talking about, and i only moderate content, not users (so i upvote or downvote based on each individual post), but as far as i can remember, most of your posts go down rather than up. learn to express yourself clearly. punctuation and a lot of grammar isn't all that important in internet fora, but you should still probably learn to spell if you don't want to get flamed.
Looks like MSU. Trieu posted an update about the decision just for them.
And that web site is?????
are you still here? Have ANY of your predictions been correct???
EDIT: response was meant for THE PARTY ROOM
the Trieu tweet had a link for UM later on in the tweet
I think he would have came in for a visit with Beiein before announcing. Hopefully, I am wrong...
my week just got way more exciting haha
Adding to the Trieu thing TomVH pretty much said don't get your hopes up on the ESPN message board...
Ha, and then a couple of minutes after I posted this he explicitly stated don't get your hopes up. Bleh.
Webb also thinks MSU
Tremendous is stating that the timing of the announcement likely means that the decision will be MSU as well. That was on the Facebook page a little while ago anyway.
On his website, Tremendous goes "out on a limb" and predicts Michigan.
hope he picks Michigan. If for no other reason, then to see an epic Sparty meltdown.
I heard he's going to play football at Michigan and basketball at MSU.
Just kidding. You can't do that. He's going to state.
A little surprised he is announcing this early.
Well, there's still a long way until signing day of 2014.
I don't know what to believe. Party Room is saying different than others. What does he know that we don't.
It just seems like its gonna be MSU, sounds like he really likes playing Basketball more than Football. Truthfully if you combine the 2 you gotta give MSU the lead in that aspect with Football not as far behind UM as UM's basketball is to MSU's (But, its not that far behind).
Hopefully tho he does pick UM as he is an amzing talent at both sports,
You must be very young.
And why is that?
Because, historically, UM has a stronger basketball program than MSU, with the only real seasons where MSU was noticeably better being 2000-2008 or so. Sure, they have 2 national titles to our 1, but for most of Big Ten history, UM is the stronger program.
And the difference in the football programs is VAST. The last few years is not a good indicator of either, which is why I'm assuming you're young. That's OK - young people are wrong a lot. And it's a way better excuse than being dumb, so I'd go with it.
MSU has two national championships. Michigan has one. MSU has eight final four appearances. Michigan has four. MSU has 16 Sweet 16 appearances. Michigan has nine. MSU has won the Big Ten Tournament three times. UM has never won it. MSU and UM are tied with 13 Big Ten Regular Season titles - despite the fact that MSU has been in the Big Ten for 30-40 less years. Plus MSU doesn't have a gigantic scandal that ravaged the program.
I'm curious about your metrics.
Look - MSU has obviously done a lot under Tom Izzo, I won't take that away from you. But outside of the Izzo era and while Magic was there, MSU has been an average team.
Both UM and MSU have played in three national championship games, unless you count our two with the Fab Five, which you should, but that's fine if you don't. MSU won two of those, we won once. Yeah, MSU has more Big Ten tournament titles than UM but that's because the tournament is relatively new.
Don't blame your conference championship totals on being newer to the Big Ten than us, because you really didn't start winning them until the 90s anyway.
The point is - MSU basketball consists of one very dominant player, and one very good coach. So when you compare the two programs, it's fairly even. This is in contrast to the football programs, where the difference is comical.
Maybe your metrics are off. Michigan won the 1st ever B1G Tournament in '98.
My metrics are on, your facts are off. Michigan forfeited that championship due to, you know, rampant cheating. Michigan has never won the Big Ten tournament.
It may have been vacated, but we still won it. Do you think our vacated loss to Ohio doesn't still feel like a loss? The games were played.
I'll repeat - Michigan has never won the Big Ten Men's basketball tournament. That is indisputable.
I apologize for providing facts that disprove misconceptions on this message board.
wait, what? when did we vacate the NCAAs Ohio game? and we lost anyway. makes no sense.
Well, considering it's 2012 and at this moment MSU's basketball is better than UM's (Also MSU is allowing him to play both as a Freshmen. UM has told other players that want to play both they have to wait till they are a Sophmore(I don't know what they told him)) and the football programs at THIS moment are not far apart. YES, UM's history in both sports are deeper and better than MSU's but I don't care who the player is, they want to play for a good team NOW, not because the school was good in the past (Yes, UM is very good at both sports now). So just because UM has more History then MSU even though at the moment MSU is combined better it makes UM have better teams? No it doesn't, especially to a 17yr old kid.
Now I'm not saying he is choosing MSU or UM I'm just stating that the better choice for him in both sports is MSU. But its not just sports it's what school he wants to live at for the next 4 years and that could lead him to UM hell it could lead him to ND even. And like I said in the post earlier I hope he does choose UM as he is a very good player in both sports.
I never said that Historically MSU has better teams I was refering to the present that matters most to kids. Also as ldd10 stated some facts, it looks like UM's basketball is not as good as you make it out to be. MSU's program may just be historically better than UM's in basketball.
How is Beilen beating down Izzo in bball recruiting? They aren't even really targeting the same guys...
MSU's prime targets in 2013 are Jabari Parker, Demetrius Jackson, and James Young
MSU's prime targets in 2014 are Cliff Alexander, Tyus Jones, Jahil Okafor, Drake Harris, and JaQuan Lyle
MSU is targeting some very high level players over the next couple cycles.
Demetrius Jackson had a Michigan offer before Derrick Walton committed. And MSU was pursuing Walton before his U-M commitment.
Please explain to me how Beilein is beating down Izzo in recruiting when he has got NOBODY to commit that has a MSU offer, while just this year Costello, Kaminski, and Valentine - all MSU commits - had UM offers. This whole thread has been quite entertaining.