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January 21st, 2013 at 10:20 PM
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hmm, I wonder why.

hmm, I wonder why.

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January 21st, 2013 at 10:20 PM
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Damn

Snake Oil

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January 21st, 2013 at 10:54 PM
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maybe he meant

that the Florida A & M Rattlers will be after him.

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January 21st, 2013 at 11:02 PM
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book it, he is a golden

book it, he is a golden panther

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January 21st, 2013 at 10:22 PM
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Is he even really

Is he even really considered a commit anymore? He basically said he was opening his recruitment back up a few weeks ago.

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January 21st, 2013 at 10:28 PM
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I would say not really at

I would say not really at this point. 

When he said he wanted to visit Florida, I didn't think he would end up moving there.

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January 21st, 2013 at 10:27 PM
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I'm not sure

This may not really mean anything other than that he decided that was a great place to spend his senior season becoming the best he could at a game he probably never really thought he could play at the highest level.

Long time till next February.

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January 21st, 2013 at 10:51 PM
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That's awfully naive. The

That's awfully naive.

The obvious questions to be asked: "How did this suddenly happen, and which Florida Gator booster is footing the bill?"

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January 21st, 2013 at 11:19 PM
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I kind of agree

I'm surprised how many people are taking such a pessimistic view of this right away. Just like Tuley-Tillman, maybe Ward does not come from a great high school football program. Seeing that Ward is new to the game, the IMG Academy could be how he feels he can best dedicate himself to getting better at football (just like QB Michael O'Connor did).

This is uncharted territory as IMG Academy is just starting their football program and fielding their first HS team this fall. We have no evidence how this is going to go, and may be something we end up seeing more in the future. And I am guessing the NCAA is going to be paying really close attention to the school so I doubt there will be any dirty dealings there.

Ward's recruitment was going to be battle with IMG or not, but we have a head start, and he still considers us his school right now. If we can keep him in the fold, we may get a more polished player and a possible early pipeline into IMG. Our coaches are already scheduled to be there tomorrow to visit Michael O'Connor:

Michael O'Connor ‏@TheTrueQB

Michigan, Michigan State, USF visiting tomorrow, gonna be a good day!!

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January 21st, 2013 at 11:33 PM
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- And I am guessing the NCAA

- And I am guessing the NCAA is going to be paying really close attention to the school so I doubt there will be any dirty dealings there.

Are you talking about the same NCAA that I am thinking of?

 

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January 21st, 2013 at 11:56 PM
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Yes

NCAA has a tendency to turn a blind eye to hijinks of its own members, but not high schools especially one run by a sports agency.  For example, their crackdown on AAU teams and the ruling on Eastern Christian Academy this year:

http://www.athleticscholarships.net/2012/09/20/ncaa-deals-blow-to-academy-football.htm

The only hesitation I have is that the NCAA is a client of IMG, but this article details the lengths IMG Academy has to go to make sure it stays on the right side of the NCAA. The academy has been around a long time, and most of their athletes play non-revenue sports.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/06/13/img-academies-weinke/index.html

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January 22nd, 2013 at 12:17 AM
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Don't you go and try to back

Don't you go and try to back up your end of things with facts and citations... not cool, man...

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January 22nd, 2013 at 12:08 AM
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Hales Franciscan went 8-4

Hales Franciscan went 8-4 this past season (unlike Tuley-Tillman's Peoria Manual team, which went 0-9), but they're a tiny private school.  He's likely not getting the best coaching or competition level there.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 8:27 AM
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Plus the Bradenton/Sarasota

Plus the Bradenton/Sarasota area is nice. It's about a 45 minute drive south of me and I have an uncle there that we see a lot, and it's a sweet place to live, IMO. Close to Tampa, not too far from Fort Myers or Orlando, beautiful weather, Siesta Key Beach which is tip top, any restaurant/store you can think of, and not too bad of traffic by Florida's standards, ect. Probably why Maria Sharapova, Dick Vitale and numerous other people with lots of money live there.

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January 21st, 2013 at 10:29 PM
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I thought that sounded like a corporation

and upon wikipediaing it, I found that it is is basically part of a corporation. Based on the wikipedia article, I'm not actually sure it's a school...

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January 21st, 2013 at 10:34 PM
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See my post below, but it is

See my post below, but it is basically a school (K-12) that is geared towards "student-athletes"

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January 22nd, 2013 at 7:17 AM
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Actually

it's probably the closest thing to being a college athlete.  Entire schedule planned out with  academic load just enough to get you into DI schools and emphasis on sports the rest of the day.  Wake up, conditioning, classes, practice, study hall.  Except the conditioning and coaches are way better than the average HS.  Plus they have Manatee HS to compete with and they are always a top 50 (nationally) HS.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 10:00 AM
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I hope they're the Manatee

I hope they're the Manatee Manatees

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January 22nd, 2013 at 10:04 AM
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whoever named them got confused

They're the Manatee Sea Lions.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 12:39 PM
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Really confused.

Because that would be like calling the Minnesota Timberwolves the Minnesota Elephants.

And they call themselves a school!

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January 21st, 2013 at 10:29 PM
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Are or our?

IMG???  To bad.  Good luck to him.

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January 21st, 2013 at 10:56 PM
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To or too?

n/t

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January 21st, 2013 at 10:31 PM
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Long way

Until next February, but like stated above, he basically isn't committed anymore, and if he is, probably not for long. I'm not pissed, the kid should take his time and make what he renders to be the right decision for him. If he chooses Blue, that's great, if not, there will be others my brothers.

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January 21st, 2013 at 10:30 PM
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Yeah....

I view this as a positive.  He's going to get much better coaching and play against much higher competition down there. Sky's the limit for someone with that frame.  I'd rather have a 50% shot at getting a vastly improved monster than a 90% shot at a really raw 4 year project.

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January 21st, 2013 at 10:32 PM
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Meh, this doesn't mean

Meh, this doesn't mean anything. Long time until 2014 NSD.

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January 21st, 2013 at 10:32 PM
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He is still good friends with

He is still good friends with LTT right?

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January 21st, 2013 at 10:32 PM
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I was curious to see what the

I was curious to see what the IMG Academy is about and this is what I got from their website:

The Academy Program is structured with an annual two-semester system that runs from September – May. IMG Academy incorporates a “collegiate-style” daily schedule for student-athletes that consists of a half-day of academics and a half-day of sports training/competition.

At IMG Academy, academic enrichment and athletic skill development represent only a portion of the training that student-athletes receive. We instill the confidence that allows our student-athletes to aspire for anything that their mind can imagine, while providing the tools to help them reach those goals.

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January 21st, 2013 at 10:38 PM
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Sounds expensive

Sounds expensive.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 10:44 AM
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pickup's free, mom!!

pickup's free, mom!!

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January 21st, 2013 at 10:36 PM
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IMG Academy has been around

IMG Academy has been around for a long time. In the beginning it was created so that tennis players can train year round with schooling on the side, but it has expanded since to golf than to other sports. Usually, they have no allegiance to any school. But I don't think this is a positive turn of events for Michigan.

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January 21st, 2013 at 10:42 PM
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They might not have an

They might not have an allegiance any school in particular, but 

Additionally, the high school prep program includes: Early College / Dual Enrollment via the State College of Florida

I feel like that gives the Florida schools an advantage if the recruit wants to enroll early.

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January 21st, 2013 at 11:01 PM
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Not the same

The State College of Florida is not the same thing as the University of Florida or FSU. It is a public college located right across the street from the IMG campus.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 12:31 AM
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Yes, but in my experience,

Yes, but in my experience, dual enrollment credits are really only accepted by other schools in the same system. I tried to take my FIU dual enrollment credits out of state and could not transfer them, but they were valid in any public univeristy in Florida. Now, whether that really means anything to a student-athlete deciding where to go to college is another question.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 7:21 AM
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State College of Florida

used to be Manatee Community College.  They just added a few BS degrees.  So the credits should transfer like any other junior college.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 8:50 AM
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So

Is that bulls*** degrees or bachelor of science degrees?

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January 22nd, 2013 at 10:08 AM
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Pretty much bullshit. Florida

Pretty much bullshit. Florida decided a few years back that it doesn't want to have community colleges, and had I think all the community colleges add at least one bachelors program, so they could call them just regular old colleges.

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January 21st, 2013 at 10:43 PM
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I know

I'd watch more tennis and golf if o lineman were part of the action.

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January 21st, 2013 at 10:57 PM
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non-traditional education

IMG is a for profit entity involved in sports at all levels.  I do not believe they are geared toward preparing well rounded people.  I invision more of a for profit  "Marinovich Program".

I would be surprised if this person matriculates at Michigan.

Do we know of any other  D-1 recruits who attended this academy?

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January 21st, 2013 at 11:09 PM
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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/img-agency-start-pre...

According to that article, 2013 was the first year they had a varsity team.  Also, their head coach is Chris Weinke.

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January 21st, 2013 at 11:00 PM
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Does this place turn out a lot of D1 players?

What kind of track record does this school have of turning out big time players?

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January 21st, 2013 at 11:05 PM
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The high school program is relatively new

I believe they just started the high school football program a year or two ago. They haven't had much of a chance to churn out any reputable alumni yet. There is a Wikipedia list of "alumni," but these are all players that have trained at IMG for the NFL Combine.

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January 21st, 2013 at 11:10 PM
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I doubt UM considers the "credits" he will "earn" at IMG

to be worthy of transfer, since it's obviously a diploma mill for academically-challenged high school athletes. Cross him off the list.

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January 21st, 2013 at 11:37 PM
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This is false

IMG Academy has sent kids to Ivy League schools and other schools with similar standards as Michigan. The purpose of the school is to provide more intense preparation in sports and started with the Nick Bollettieri Tennis Academy.

Michigan is on their page as well:

http://www.imgacademy.com/about-img-academy/history-success

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January 21st, 2013 at 11:51 PM
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really?

sour grapes much Don?

It is what it is.  Ultimately we are talking about a student athlete who is in his junior year of high school with an opportunity to go far with his football skills.  Why shouldn't he go there and why wouldn't we want him if he did?   Don't let your homer glasses obscure your view.

 

Honestly, I think some people don't have the stomach for recruiting... It isn't about any one kid and great talent usually comes with great risk.  It is what it is.

 

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January 21st, 2013 at 11:10 PM
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I'm currently an intern at IMG

The high school football program is still relatively new at IMG, but there have been players training for the NFL Combine at IMG for over a decade now. Based on the reactions I've seen from the who's who of draft prospects this year, the facilities at IMG are better than most major D-1 programs. It's a competitive environment, and whichever school ends up landing Ward will benefit from the year he spends here.

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January 21st, 2013 at 11:16 PM
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Rusty Shackleford
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I wouldn't be worried

I would actually be happy about it. Being from Chicago I can tell you, CPS football players are extremely raw and not in shape to play in college right away. Coaching and facilities are sub-par.

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January 21st, 2013 at 11:18 PM
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Why are people worried about losing Ward?

He's a 3* raw prospect that's as likely to be a bust as he is a boom prospect. With how awesome our 2012 and 2013 OL classes are/were, losing an offensive line prospect like Ward doesn't cause me to lose sleep at night.

With that said, I'd love for him to remain committed, but losing someone like Ferns would be a MUCH BIGGER blow.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 12:12 AM
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Ferns is a more polished

Ferns is a more polished player, but you could say the same thing about LB depth that you said about OL depth (lots of good talent in recent classes).  Considering neither Ferns nor Ward should be required to step on the field immediately, both guys should have plenty of time to develop.

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January 21st, 2013 at 11:19 PM
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cbs650
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The NCAA has been cracking

The NCAA has been cracking down on schools like this.

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February 2nd, 2013 at 1:15 PM
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Big Tuna
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No problem with this boarding

No problem with this boarding school.  It has been a college prep boarding school for over 35 years with emphasis on Academics, Athletics, Leadership and Character.  They have a full time NCAA compliance officer on site to make sure that things are done the right way.  The school is experiencing tremendous growth and the team will play in 4 or 5 A and play a very good schedule.  I am hearing they will be very talened since over 20 D1 coaches from all over the country have visited the football office in the last 30 days.  They are now stopping there and at Manatee.  There is great emphasis on honoring commitments to college as it is a big part of the leadership and character program they have in place.  The L&C program is part of the John Wooden Leadership Program and is a formal curriculum.  In 2012 over 150 college coaches were on campus.  The only reason I know this is because my son went there and was recruited to play at many Ivey League colleges.

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February 2nd, 2013 at 1:23 PM
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If you guys would research

If you guys would research the school it would help.  All of this is on their website or in the parent newsletters.

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January 21st, 2013 at 11:25 PM
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I might be the only one who

I might be the only one who sees this as a good thing, but if he does end up sticking with us, going to a football program like this one could be a great thing for his development as a player.  He's a guy with the physical tools to be a great player, but is very raw.  This could maybe smooth out a lot of the raw aspects of his game, and get him in a good shape to compete for a spot in the two deep quickly.

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January 21st, 2013 at 11:26 PM
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People freak out too much

People freak out too much over stuff like this.  He is still commited to Michigan and moved to a high school that caters towards athletes which is a better opportunity then he has at his old one.

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January 21st, 2013 at 11:28 PM
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Thread jack!!! Rivals board

Thread jack!!! Rivals board says Green will pick Auburn....lol



Panic

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January 21st, 2013 at 11:36 PM
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Time for me to lay low for a

Time for me to lay low for a few days, this place is going to get ugly.

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January 21st, 2013 at 11:40 PM
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This place will explode like

This place will explode like Mt. St. Helen.

Too soon?

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January 21st, 2013 at 11:46 PM
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Which team site?

Which team site?

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January 21st, 2013 at 11:51 PM
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I don't have a pay account,

I don't have a pay account, but I'm guessing it is this story, which is a neutral site link:

 

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1462579&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=

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January 21st, 2013 at 11:56 PM
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That story just talks about

That story just talks about last week's in-home visits. I don't have a pay account either, but Farrell was tweeting about it earlier. AU and Tenn are closer, but we are still assumed leader. Also, the only Rivals site that will cover his announcement is the Michigan team site, so if there were a network that would predict Green to Michigan, I would think it would be Rivals based on the evidence provided above. I'm trying to figure out where NFG got his info from.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 12:02 AM
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It was in the rivals main

It was in the rivals main page, but its not there anymore. Wtf.... Speculation commence.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 12:11 AM
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And it is not the link I

And it is not the link I submitted?  Did they say they had info that he WOULD, or was that just, like, their opinion...?

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January 22nd, 2013 at 12:17 AM
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That he was going to shock

That he was going to shock ppl and choose Auburn.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 7:40 AM
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And this is according to

And this is according to random message board people....probably irrational Auburn fans

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January 22nd, 2013 at 10:26 AM
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Michigan coaches are visiting

Him on Wednesday and that is his last in home, id assume Jackson & Borges will be the ones going to VA. Ten also has a visit earlier that day so I think m is sitting pretty

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January 22nd, 2013 at 12:10 AM
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On premium board

On premium board

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January 22nd, 2013 at 12:38 AM
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I Lived in Bradenton 3 yrs

I Lived in Bradenton 3 yrs, so am familiar with IMG. IMG has been around a while. At least in the past, they were a fairly expensive school, but you did get excellent coaching. It does make sense for Ward to go there. It really is kind of like McGary going to prep school out East. McGary was still from Indiana. Ward is still from Chicago, but he gets a year to polish his game, work on his academics, strength, and be ready for college. I'm just curious how in the world this is being paid for. Going to IMG for a year isn't cheap.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 9:52 AM
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Paying for it

Do you have reason to think Ward's parents can't afford this?

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January 22nd, 2013 at 10:02 AM
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He already attended a private

He already attended a private school in Chicago. I'm not sure what tuition is at either place, but...well...yeah.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 10:04 AM
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Maybe he was wondering if

Maybe he was wondering if scholarships are included or something of that nature?

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January 22nd, 2013 at 1:25 PM
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Tuition in excess of 50k annually

The tuition at IMG is probably in excess of 50k annually. Here is a link to an SI story in 2002, when the tuition ranged from 31 to 70k. And that was 10 years ago.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1027520/index.htm

I have paid private school tuition for years, for 3 kids. But it has been an entirely different league than 50k a year. Even without scholarships, my daughter's High School tuition maxed out a couple years ago at a bit over $10k. IMG, on the other hand, at $50k, would be a lot. That's serious coin for most people. Anyone who can afford $50k for a year's high school tuition has some serious resources.

IIRC, some of the East Coast basketball schools offered scholarships. IMG, on the other hand, is made up completely of students focusing on sports. So, it is less likely to be underwritten by the tuition of the rest of the student body.

Hope that explains where my questions came from.

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February 2nd, 2013 at 1:21 PM
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Big Tuna
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Financial aid is available if

Financial aid is available if you fill out the right forms and if is handled by a third pary group approved by the FHSAA.  No aid can be given below the calculated aid amount which my son got last year albeit not too much but at least something.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 9:50 AM
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IMG

I worked out there for 3 months one summer. It is outstanding. Ward will probably get a lot of technique coaching for his position to catch up fast for not having played a lot of football. For sure he will get top-notch conditioning both in the weight room and running/plyometric stuff. I was there in college I wish I had gone in high school.



As for what it means for Michigan I don't know. Ward will likely get to rub shoulders with some NFL guys with various ties. When I was there Drew Brees, Charlie Batch, and I heard but never saw, the Mannings were there. So who knows who might get in his ear and say what.

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