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13' LB Jamieon Moss offered

According to Sam Webb. He is a Virginia Tech commit.

Commence speculation on why the staff feels they need another LB so bad? Attrition? A realization that a kid or two isn't as good that they thought? It seems that any speculation that McCray or Gedeon may be on the fence has been refuted by multiple recruiting outlets.

I am curious though as to why that they haven't touched base with Levenberry seeming how they have no qualms about trying to take someone else's commit.

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November 30th, 2012 at 6:18 AM | Interesting (Score:5 Interesting)
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Interesting

I hate ohio. Thats all you need to know.

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November 30th, 2012 at 6:33 AM | I'm wondering if Michigan (Score:5 Normal)
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I'm wondering if Michigan washed their hands of Levenberry after that sort of public spat between Levenberry's dad and the coaches.  Eric Levenberry publicly announced that his kid would visit Michigan after Michigan's coaches had already said to a bunch of guys "We've got our linebackers, thanks."  Supposedly Michigan had to call him up and say, "We're not interested in your son anymore."  Maybe Hoke doesn't want to go crawling back now that a spot has opened up.

Or maybe they have talked to Levenberry and he's just not interested anymore.

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November 30th, 2012 at 6:58 AM | How would that be crawling back? (Score:2 Normal)
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Simply going back and saying you now have an opening? Don't see it that way at all.

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November 30th, 2012 at 12:43 PM | Michigan doesn't want to deal (Score:5 Normal)
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Michigan doesn't want to deal with Levenberry's helicopter dad, and he's only so high on Rivals because he gives the scoop to Farrell. Everyone else has him a borderline top 250 guy. He's not a slam dunk. 

As for why: it's not anyone in the current class decommitting, so the only reason they would need more linebackers is...

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November 30th, 2012 at 1:02 PM | Yeah, I've never been very (Score:2)
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Yeah, I've never been very high on Levenberry, and it does seem a little fishy that he's higher on Rivals than anywhere else.  But Rivals is normally the best at ranking prospects, so I try to give them the benefit of the doubt...

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November 30th, 2012 at 5:02 PM | This means Poole or Ringer (Score:2)
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This means Poole or Ringer are gone.  Which is a bummer, because I think it's Poole and I was really excited for him. 

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November 30th, 2012 at 6:34 AM | BTW, here are Moss's junior (Score:3 Normal)
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BTW, here are Moss's junior highlights:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRUNaWDfKNo

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November 30th, 2012 at 6:36 AM | Levenberry isn't being (Score:1 Normal)
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Levenberry isn't being pursued most likely because of FSU's criminal justice major (or something close to that IIRC) that UM doesn't offer. He's settled down south. It's what you call a bummer.

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November 30th, 2012 at 9:08 AM | The spat Magnus is talking (Score:3 Normal)
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The spat Magnus is talking about was after EJ committed to FSU, he was supposdly rethinking his decision and wanted to get back in touch with Michigan but then Michigan shot him down (i.e. his college major played a part in the original decision but not the 2nd)

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November 30th, 2012 at 6:50 AM | 13' (Score:5 Normal)
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I was very excited for the basketball team, than was all like huh? Wait, naw?

13 foot commit?

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November 30th, 2012 at 9:39 AM | Needs to work on pad level I (Score:1)
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Needs to work on pad level I would guess.

Edit: Damn should have scrolled down a bit more...

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November 30th, 2012 at 10:41 AM | He's (Score:2)
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a member of the Pants family.  Tacopants little brother.  Much like the Grady family, the height hits later.  Unlike the Grady family, the height, in this case, was a couple of feet as opposed to a couple of inches.  His senior year highlight film is pretty boring, because all he does is stand in the middle of the field and wait for a pass to be thrown.  I guess when you're 13' and weight about 600lbs, you can stand wherever you wish.

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November 30th, 2012 at 6:55 AM | Any news on how Antonio Poole (Score:3 Normal)
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Any news on how Antonio Poole has been recovering.

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.

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November 30th, 2012 at 7:59 AM | If it's like Fitz (Score:1)
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We won't hear much unless Hokes gives reporters a nugget or the kid tweets how he's doing.

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November 30th, 2012 at 8:24 AM | Jake Ryan to declare... (Score:1 Normal)
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Thats the only reason I can think of and it kind of makes since. He displayed great technique and athleticism this season. The plays me made behind the line remind me of Victor Hopson and Dhani Jones. If i was a pro scout id be chomping at the bits to draft Ryan in the 2nd or 3rd round!

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November 30th, 2012 at 8:44 AM | God I hope you're wrong. (Score:1)
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God I hope you're wrong. While I couldn't blame Ryan if he left, I think he could put himself in a position to be drafted in the first round if he stayed next year.

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November 30th, 2012 at 8:50 AM | Victor Hopson? (Score:3 Normal)
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Never heard of him.

I just destroyed that toilet with a huge Rosenberg.

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November 30th, 2012 at 9:39 AM | Hobson? (Score:2 Normal)
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My bad, anything intellectual to add to the thread?

"Only three things can happen when you pass, and two of them are bad" -Bo Schembechler

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November 30th, 2012 at 11:30 AM | I do. It's "champing at the (Score:3 Normal)
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I do. It's "champing at the bit," not chomping.

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November 30th, 2012 at 11:45 AM | Nice.  I learn something new (Score:2)
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Nice.  I learn something new here every day.  The Michigan difference.

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November 30th, 2012 at 1:41 PM | Some more "intellectual" help? (Score:1)
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"Only three things can happen when you pass, and two of them are bad" 

-Bo Schembechler   -Woody "Boom-Boom" Hayes

 

none...

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November 30th, 2012 at 8:56 AM | On Jake Ryan (Score:2 Normal)
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I think he might be on to something here. I would be astonished if Ryan left after this year, but wouldn't be surprised if Ryan left after next given the progress he's making. Maybe the coaches think it'd be smart to get a '13 guy, redshirt him, and have him ready to play if Ryan leaves after next season.

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November 30th, 2012 at 9:04 AM | I just don't see this as (Score:4 Normal)
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I just don't see this as making sense.  Going into next year, Jake Ryan is a junior and Cam Gordon is a senior.  The coaches should already have a plan in place to replace Ryan, whether it's McCray, Jenkins-Stone, etc.  I don't see them offering somebody at the end of November to replace Jake Ryan unless something else is happening - a departure, an injury, etc.

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November 30th, 2012 at 10:00 AM | No way (Score:1)
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At this point, Jake Ryan, does not have the resume to go pro. He would be a round 5 pick at best. He is a legend to UofM fans, but nationally he is just a good LB. another year of solid performance and he could get a look at a day 1 pick.

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November 30th, 2012 at 8:59 AM | this makes me nervous (Score:1)
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about R J Stone and Ringer.  Makes me concerned if these guys aren't happy and want to move along even if there were injuries. .  

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November 30th, 2012 at 9:11 AM | Isnt Ringer hurt? If so that (Score:1)
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Isnt Ringer hurt? If so that makes no sense to leave Mich for "greener" pastures. 

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November 30th, 2012 at 9:18 AM | Yeah, Ringer's hurt.  I (Score:4 Insightful)
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Yeah, Ringer's hurt.  I haven't heard anything about him transferring or anything, but it wouldn't be totally out of the question to see classmates James Ross and Joe Bolden getting on the field and then to re-think your chances of getting on the field.

Again, I'm not saying that's what he is or should be thinking.  It's just that he might be blocked from PT for the next three years, and maybe somebody in that type of spot would think twice.  Poole might be in the same boat, though he's a year older than Ringer/Ross/Bolden.

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November 30th, 2012 at 9:35 AM | Answer (Score:2)
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I think this is probably the right answer.

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November 30th, 2012 at 10:39 AM | Ringer (Score:3 Insightful)
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Ringer has refuted anything about transferring when randos ask him on twitter, FWIW.



Not replying to you necessarily, I do find this whole tea leaf reading to be getting ridiculous everytime we offer somebody. Each new offer is like a crime scene and everyone on the case is a junior detective.

Intensity is a lot of guys that run fast.

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November 30th, 2012 at 11:53 AM | Gutierrez got stepped over. (Score:1)
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It shouldn't be completely dismissed. . . 

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November 30th, 2012 at 9:07 AM | Am I (Score:2 Normal)
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the only one who saw 13 foot LB? That's pretty tall..

Go Blue !!

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November 30th, 2012 at 9:26 AM | Nearly impossible (Score:3 Normal)
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to get proper pad level when you are a 13' tall LB.... I question the staff on this offer

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November 30th, 2012 at 1:44 PM | Yes, but he bats down passes (Score:2)
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Yes, but he bats down passes like you wouldn't believe.

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November 30th, 2012 at 10:00 AM | Haha. I had the exact same (Score:2)
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Haha. I had the exact same reaction

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November 30th, 2012 at 10:32 AM | I've always thought... (Score:4 Underrated)
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...Tacopants was better suited for defense.

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November 30th, 2012 at 9:51 AM | Definitely curious on the (Score:1)
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Definitely curious on the reason for the offer but how about this guy's film? Pretty impressive highlights for being a low 3star...not sure on quality of competition though

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November 30th, 2012 at 10:06 AM | Head scratcher for sure (Score:2)
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A smallish OLB good at pursuing outside runs. Too small to be a rush end, but ESPN isn't listing any coverage skills either... sounds like a special teams ace to me. This isn't a preferred walk-on offer, because he's a NC kid already with a VT scholarship offer. Might this have something to do with Urban Meyer? The only way this makes sense is Greg Mattison wants to use him as a spy on Braxton Miller(and all those mobile QBs who'll take his place). He does seem to do a good job tracking down mobile QBs in his highlights. In fact, that's all he does.

That one hurt.

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November 30th, 2012 at 11:55 AM | convert to fullback? (Score:1)
gustave ferbert
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sacrilege to use a scholly on a fullback, I've seen crazier. 

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November 30th, 2012 at 10:06 AM | Sorry to go off topic but I (Score:-1 Offtopic)
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Sorry to go off topic but I know some expressions are said improper on here as a joke because I saw the "joke".(FTR I don't think redundant smartass comments necessarily qualifies as jokes) But I also see people say "doesn't make since" instead of sense and intensive purposes instead of intents and purposes. Are these "jokes"?

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November 30th, 2012 at 10:31 AM | (No subject) (Score:5 Normal)
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They no longer call me Bisbiño

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November 30th, 2012 at 11:15 AM | Speculate all you want (Score:3 Normal)
sukenicj
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but it's clear that Morgan has missed 3-4 games with concussion issues and Poole has a significant injury with an unknown future.  Staff is protecting future depth at a core position for Mattison.

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November 30th, 2012 at 11:30 AM | I didn't realize... (Score:2 Normal)
Blue in Yarmouth
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I don't remember Morgan having the wind knocked out of his head...when did that happen?

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November 30th, 2012 at 12:16 PM | I would guess that this is (Score:1)
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I would guess that this is the case, of course we can only speculate.   There are a number of reasons why they'd start going after LB's late like this, but concussion concerns are certainly one reason.

Unfortunately we'll only know if Morgan is ok until the bowl game.  If he isn't dressed for that one, we'll know why Michigan started looking around for an LB at this late stage; unfortunately.

 

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November 30th, 2012 at 11:37 AM | Two points (Score:2 Normal)
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1. Jake is 3rd yr (NFL eligible), Jones and Cam will be 5th year, Poole & Ringer are hurt, and any player might have new academic issues. Many options for 1 new slot opening. Shouldn't one of the new offerees be able/willing to answer why the coaches are re-opening LB recruitment?

2. What is the Reschke status? Apologies if I missed his post-season response as he alluded to last week.

"Everybody wants to be a hero, so to speak.  But it takes everybody."  - Charles Woodson

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November 30th, 2012 at 11:45 AM | 1. The coaches might not (Score:2)
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1. The coaches might not necessarily tell kids why they're recruiting someone new.  Personally, I don't foresee Mike Jones returning for a fifth year, but that's just an assumption on my part.  However, the coaches are already counting on some attrition, so I would imagine something like that is figured in to how many people they're trying to get (25) as opposed to how many seniors are graduating.

2. Reschke has re-affirmed his commitment to Michigan State.

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November 30th, 2012 at 12:04 PM | Check, check. (Score:1)
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IMHO, Moss has a ton of upside with his frame, athleticism and range. He also shows very good read-react tendacies and patience with flow and containment. Quickness appears a little above average (knowing the competition would help) and he tracks QBs extremely well.

Biggest concern: He seems to attack the last few steps of tackling, but he hand tackles ever time and does not tackle with a strong base or "nose to the ball". Typically indicates a competitive kid who is missing a mean streak or a program that doesn't emphasize hitting. Fixable.

"Everybody wants to be a hero, so to speak.  But it takes everybody."  - Charles Woodson

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November 30th, 2012 at 12:41 PM | Looks like I was beaten to the "Reschke" question. (Score:1)
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I agree with you, Magnus.  That is, I agree with your confusion and your thinking that there must be some question with current numbers.  Sort of why I asked about "numbers" in the Cameron Hunt thread.

 

 

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November 30th, 2012 at 1:01 PM | I really don't see Cam Gordon (Score:0 Flamebait)
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I really don't see Cam Gordon getting a 5th year either.

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November 30th, 2012 at 1:03 PM | I do.  Jake Ryan has ZERO (Score:4 Normal)
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I do.  Jake Ryan has ZERO backups without him.  I'm sure Gordon gets a fifth year if he wants one.

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November 30th, 2012 at 1:54 PM | So I'm not sure why we're (Score:2)
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So I'm not sure why we're trying to get in with an extra linebacker so late in the game in this class. A firm handshake aside, we have good depth with 6 returning (healthy) LBs plus 2 injured ones, and 2 incoming freshmen. One more 11th hour LB likely wont make much of an impact in 2013 over 2 other top freshmen, and 2 or maybe 1 coming off of an injury. Can't it just wait until next year when we can land a top prospect, or is this kid alot better than I'm seeing?

How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon

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