A different rivalry day gone bad but one that altered UM football....
12/1/2007 - Was this the worst day in UM football?
Jim Tressel has more Big Ten wins in Michigan Stadium than Rich Rodriguez.
This is not true
Tressel won in the Big House in 2001, 2005, 2007, and 2009. Rodriguez won against Wisconsin in 2008, against Indiana in 2009, and against Illinois this year. That makes four Big Ten wins in the Big House for Tressel and three for Rodriguez.
Umm, yes it is. Is it say something false that makes me feel better and then give a self-upvote day? Here's my entry:
We just beat Ohio State! Woo-hoo!
Stone, I mean neg, him! He made an indisputable factual observation that I would prefer was not true! Neg him!
It's more like this: that person posted information that, while factual, doesn't mean anything by itself without any comment or argument. That comment is useless because it lacks the reasoning as to why that should change our thoughts about Rich Rodriguez. Besides, it doesn't even remotely relate to the comment to which it purports to reply.
I think this was BAD, but the Horror will always be #1 with a bullet for me.
#2 would be the 97 Game after Bo died.
The 97 game huh? Pretty sure Bo died before the number 1 and 2 game against OSU in 06..
It's ok. I pretend it's '97 all the time.
The Horror will always be worse. Especially because I was there!
I believe Bo died in 2006
November 27th, 2010 at 5:03 PM
This thread was the worst moment in Michigan history.
fucking move on, Jesus Christ....
know why you got negged for two of these. I think Jesus Christ tapdancing on crackers was def needed twice today.
Maybe the real disaster occurred back in 2002, when Lloyd Carr hired Scot Loeffler as his QB coach instead of Jim Harbaugh. Think about how different things might have gone if he'd been here.
Not all that much
Harbaugh would have been another fired assistant, and he wouldn't have been in position to take over NOW had it happened.
We also would have had a worse QB coach.
Why are people so convinced that Scot Loeffler is an awesome position coach? He seems to be doing a pedestrian job at Florida right now.
And I don't know how bad a job he's doing at Florida...he turned Tebow into a first round pick, which no one thought was ever going to happen.
Was not a loss to the University of Michigan.
The worst moment in Michigan history is a tie between all the moments where anyone questioned the coaching acumen of Richard Rodriguez! His offense is elite (but cant score)! Nothing else matters! The day when total yardage decides football games instead of scores, is coming, and you fools will realize the damage you've done to UM.
While this reply may not have intended to create a serious discussion, why are we so bad at protecting the football? How many points has that cost us in Big Ten season? I'd be willing to listen to a reasoned argument as to why this team over the past 3 years has been completely unable to value possession. And I'd prefer an argument better than "inexperience" because I seem to remember an inexperienced Chad Henne and Mike Hart protecting the football much better. Can we get a diary from one of the stats-based people on this? It's been a hallmark of the RichRod era so far and it's confounding, and a major factor in our inability to hang with the elite programs.
impact Coach RR's team in WVU as well? It is certainly disconcerting to continue to move the ball then just say thank you, your turn, with it and give it to the other team. How many TOs did UM have in the Red Zone this year?
always higher with young QBs in their first year of starting.
2010: Denard/Forcier - 14 INT; 13 lost fumbles
2004: Henne - 12 INT; 9 lost fumbles
2001: Navarre - 14 INT; 11 lost fumbles
this year (and last year) really not that far different then when we had young QBs in the past. The D, however, is a zillion times worse. hopefully, the 2011 fumbles will decline with D Hart, like M Hart.
I wanted to note that freshman Henne and freshman Naverre had senior Braylon and senior Marquise Walker respectively, both of whom made a lot of plays that other receivers wouldn't have and don't. We don't have any senior wide receivers, let alone any who can make Denard's (or Tate's) life easier like Braylon and Marquise did for their QBs.
Yeah. Michigan actually finished the year with the exact same number of Interceptions (14) and Fumbles Lost (13) as last season. In 2008, it was 13 Ints and 15 Fumbles Lost. This makes sense, of course - we have had a first year starter at QB each of the past 3 seasons.
This has nothing to do with the way RichRod coaches. It's not like he has to remind his QBs and RBs not to drop the ball. Young teams turn the ball over. That's just the way it is. I agree - this stat should improve over the next two seasons.
Another reason for not scoring despite all of the yards is a terrible field goal kicking game. This, too, should improve.
The Big Ten was very strong at the top this year. OSU, Wisc, Iowa and MSU all had a ton of returning starters and very good, experienced QBs. That will change next year. We're returning something like 18-19 starters. We should be a top 3 Big Ten team in 2011, with 9-10 wins and a New Years Bowl. The new D coordinator is key. They have to bring in someone with a proven college track record.
I completely agree. Our offense might look elite based in certain stats, but it hasn't passed the eye test at any point this season. We don't score against legitimate competition unless were tied or behind, and turn the ball over in historic fashion. And this is year three! Of this is what we do well... well, we are in deep trouble.
coaching? I am actually asking. Can you coach ball protection?
Yes, and I'm pretty sure Fred Jackson is pretty good at teaching the technique.
One thing that bugs me is that Denard only carries the ball in his left hand. Therefore, when he is running to his right the ball is in the wrong hand. It's something that most players learn in highschool, even grade school in my case. Furthermore, Tate has terrible ball security when he is in the pocket. Not sure why those issues are ignored by the coaching staff.
The Horror, obviously. I was much more angry when they lost to Illinois last year. I pretty much expected what happened today. For all the fireworks of this offense, this team is very predictable these days.
Seriously, this. The Horror was singly the worst thing ever in the history of Michigan Football.
Especially when it was followed by the Oregon beatdown...
when talking about losses on the field. No other loss was more damaging, embarrassing and difficult to handle than The Horror. It really makes all other losses seem more like movies that are fiction. You can watch "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre", drunk on Mad Dog 20/20 and think it's the most frightening thing ever (either the movie or the cheap hooch). Until, of course, you are actually chased by someone with a revving chainsaw.
How do we become not predictable, because I really want to see that.
No, just another bad game.
Honestly, I'd say the 07 UM-OSU game. Senior Chad Henne, senior Mike Hart, veteran receivers, and we only put up 91 yards and 3 points up. Most disappointing game I've ever seen (today included).
They were hurt?
post from such blogging royalty. Thank you.
Worst day in UM football was App St no question about that.....heck the oregon game the next week might have been 2nd...I mean do people honestly realize if Belotti and Kelly wanted too they could have put up 1000 yds of offense that game...thats how lopsided it was that day.
Lets calm down about what happened today...we are what we all expected to be 7-5 and for all the well i would take a loss to Purdue to beat _________ be honest..had they lost the Purdue game you would have called for his head then.
Fact is we got something we haven't got in 2yrs to look forward to. 15 extra practices and a chance to end the year on a positive note with a little positive momentum to go with it.
Best case scenario is that our D does decent and we win the game against a decent bowl opponent and move into the spring with a positive taste in our mouths for one off season.
I mean really?
if you want to be proud of 7-5 and academics then start cheering for northwestern.
i, however, don't feel like settling.
But this post makes me want to keep him. Because, like, what productive purpose does it serve for the world. It sounds like a BTN announcer.
The worst day in Michigan football was November 17, 2006.
This is also up there with The Horror. RIP Coach Schembechler.
Agreed. Been downhill ever since.
The worst day in the history of this board was Dec. 13, 2008 because that was when you registered. Go to hell.
Losing Bo's last game in the Rose Bowl to USC in 1990. We had the better team. The Rose Bowl was never kind to us.
Since a victory today would have been a major upset, a loss isn't the worst thing to ever happen to Michigan. It was expected and the score wasn't nearly as bad as it could have been. My three "worst day" candidates:
1. The Horror
2. UM/OSU 1968
3. 2007 Rose Bowl
And I would put Minnesota upsetting undefeated Michigan with Jim Harbaugh at QB in the 80's on a very cold day in the Big House as a very close fourth.
On the bright side, though, Michigan is having a better year than two of last year's top five teams. Florida lost 31-8 to FSU in their rivalry game, finishing with the same 7-5 record as Michigan, and Texas isn't even eligible for a bowl. Wiscy hung 70 on NW today, which is definitely more than they hung on Michigan last week.
I may have to take a media fast, or at least an MSU fast, for a few days, because the OMGFRDKRODNOW people will be out in force. The MSM outlets will all try to "outscoop" each other on the RR "story" again, and poor Sam and Ira will get many irate, irrational callers on WTKA. The comment fields of mlive and A2 dot com will be full of hungry maggots feasting on the latest loss.
Hopefully, RR gets his chance to finish what he has started at Michigan, and we are all laughing about the coming week after the OSU game next year.
I was thinking it was the date of the poster's conception. Poor decisions, poor decisions...