11W doesn't know when to give it up

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March 1st, 2012 at 3:03 PM
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11W doesn't know when to give it up

this from an 11W recruitng mailbag...have a good laugh

Where do things stand with Dymonte Thomas?

Things are the same as they have been. He is committed to Michigan but did not close the door on the staff when they reached out to recruit him. The old staff botched this one completely and Urban has to make up a lot of ground, with the help of Bri'onte Dunn. This will not be easy, but it is possible. I am not saying it will happen by any means as he has a good relationship with some of the UM recruits and is saying all the right things, but watch him closely as actions speak louder than words sometimes.

Sincerely,

Cpt. Ass-Hat

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March 1st, 2012 at 3:07 PM | That sounds like a pretty (Score:5 Normal)
BradP
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That sounds like a pretty accurate discription of the situation.

March 1st, 2012 at 3:11 PM | Agreed (Score:5 Normal)
jbaggz
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That actually sounds perfectly accurate.  And a lot like posts that were being made by Michigan fans during the Dunn recruitment.  A lot of people posted as if Dunn was UM's to lose while he was committed to OSU.  

March 1st, 2012 at 3:23 PM | True, but Dymonte isn't (Score:5 Normal)
South TX MFan
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True, but Dymonte isn't taking pictures with Ohio recruits on their field and standing on Ohio's sideline during The Game either.

March 1st, 2012 at 3:47 PM | We all know how close Dymonte (Score:2 Normal)
BradP
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We all know how close Dymonte is to his cousin, but his brother also attends OSU.  Dymonte told aquaman that he may visit OSU but it would be for family over.

So don't be shocked if pictures show up of Dymonte standing on Ohio's sideline during a game at some point during the season.

March 1st, 2012 at 6:56 PM | How would you expect Hoke to respond to that? (Score:0 Trolling)
March 1st, 2012 at 7:02 PM | my response (Score:3 Normal)
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There is a big difference between flying to the other side of the country to take an official visit to a school that you have no ties to, and visiting your sibling and your cousin in your home state, and doing so unoficially.

That's my response.

"Underwear Wearing Basement Dweller"

March 1st, 2012 at 8:01 PM | I think it was official visits (Score:1)
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So yes, if Dymonte took an "official visit" to Ohio, that would change things.

Also, I am not positive, but IIRC, Michigan wasn't necessarily "closed" to Pharaoh Brown. They just didn't view him as being "committed," which meant that someone else could fill that spot in the class.

"It does not matter how many times you get knocked down, but how many times you get up." Vince Lombardi

 

March 1st, 2012 at 3:55 PM | I think this speaks all the (Score:1 Normal)
jaou
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I think this speaks all the more to Meyer's recruiting ability. He was able to keep Dunn despite all the signs he was truly open to coming here.

March 1st, 2012 at 4:27 PM | I think Dunn stayed because (Score:3 Normal)
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I think Dunn stayed because he was a life-long OSU fan and once he learned there was only a 1 year postseason ban from the NCAA there wasn't enough reason for him to leave his childhood dream school. Looking back it was impressive for Brady Hoke to keep Dunn open for as long as he was.

My username is spelled "mgordoblue", but it's pronounced "Throat Warbler Mangrove".

March 1st, 2012 at 4:56 PM | agree completely (Score:3 Normal)
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It seemed evident throughout the recruiting process that Dunn's heart was with the buckeyes, and his head told him that Michigan was the better opportunity.  Once it was clear things would not be all that bad with the NCAA, he went with his heart.  Hardly shocking.

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March 1st, 2012 at 3:24 PM | We had a legitimate shot with (Score:1)
marti221
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We had a legitimate shot with Dunn. He and his father made this known publicly.

March 1st, 2012 at 3:16 PM | Meh (Score:5 Normal)
BiSB
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Picasso painted individual facial features pretty accurately, but it doesn't mean he gave a good representation of the human face.

You can make a series of accurate statements that add up to a completely inaccurate picture. Everything in the article is either true or theoreticaly defensible, but it gives the impression that Ohio has a decent chance to flip Dymonte when Dymonte himself has given the opposite impression at pretty much every chance.

 

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March 1st, 2012 at 4:31 PM | +1 (Score:1)
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  I think you reached a new high by bringing Picasso into the discussion.  How Blue you are, indeed.

March 1st, 2012 at 3:07 PM | But Urban, you can't recruit (Score:5 Normal)
nikj
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But Urban, you can't recruit him.  There's a gentleman's agreement!!

March 1st, 2012 at 3:07 PM | Yeah we are spoiled with (Score:2 Flamebait)
evenyoubrutus
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Yeah we are spoiled with MGoBlog.  11W tries their little hearts out but at the end of the day they are really just Buckey Fanboi's.

Not that I loved Rich Rod less, but that I loved Michigan more.

March 1st, 2012 at 6:57 PM | Hows your view from that Ivory Tower (Score:0 Flamebait)
March 1st, 2012 at 11:59 PM | Very nice, except for the (Score:3 Normal)
evenyoubrutus
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Very nice, except for the fact that everyone else is so darn small from up here...

Not that I loved Rich Rod less, but that I loved Michigan more.

March 1st, 2012 at 3:10 PM | Honest question: Has (Score:2 Normal)
FreddieMercuryHayes
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Honest question:

Has Dymonte not closed the door?  As in has he basically told Meyer he no longer wants to hear from Meyer?  I know he's said all the right things and is planning on rooming with Morris, and had that piece about him and committment/standing by your word being really important to him and his family, etc.  But has he actually told Ohio's staff to fuck off (albeit nicer)?

March 1st, 2012 at 3:12 PM | I don't think he has, and (Score:2 Normal)
BradP
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I don't think he has, and with his relationship to Brionte, I don't think he will.

March 1st, 2012 at 3:23 PM | There is an equal chance (Score:2)
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that Brionte being in C-Bus could hurt Ohio, particularly if all those grand promises Urban (surely) made to Dunn do not come to fruition. 

/hopes this does not spur any "Urban L**r" comments.

March 1st, 2012 at 5:54 PM | I remember he did an (Score:2 Normal)
redhousewolverine
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I remember he did an interview with Aquaman that seemed to indicate he informed Meyer he was not interested. I do not believe he told Meyer to stop contacting him though. Plus, all these interview to fanbases tend to slant in favor of the fans interviewing recruits. They generally always want to appease the people interested in them. From eveything, it doesn't seem there is little to no chance he goes to Ohio but 11W is representing it as a higher chance than it is.

"The unexamined life is not worth living." Socrates.

March 1st, 2012 at 3:15 PM | Per multiple (Score:2)
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tweets and a badass recruiting class, I'd bet my left nut that he's blue all the way - especially considering he's the closest out of anyone to Shane. He's been asked this about 1000 times and always says he's 100% commited to U of M. 

"Touchdown... No flags!!"

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March 1st, 2012 at 3:16 PM | Kids often say they're 100% (Score:5 Normal)
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Kids often say they're 100% committed before decommitting.  I'm not saying that will happen, but what a kid says and what a kid does are completely different things.  Sometimes kids say "I'm going to wait until National Signing Day" and then end up committing a couple weeks later.

This isn't groundbreaking, but here's my rule: Don't get too attached to a recruit until he signs his National Letter of Intent. 

Too much can happen in the world of recruiting.  I'm sure at one point Ohio State fans didn't think Kyle Kalis would decommit in favor of Michigan, too.

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March 1st, 2012 at 3:23 PM | You should also add this to (Score:5 Normal)
bacon1431
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You should also add this to your rule: Don't ever let the fate of your nuts be left up to a teenager.

You are bound to lose that nut.

For a' that, an' a' that, 
Our toils obscure an' a' that, 
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, 
The man's the gowd for a' that. 
March 1st, 2012 at 3:27 PM | Maybe don't make bets about (Score:5 Normal)
WolvinLA2
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Maybe don't make bets about your nuts.

March 1st, 2012 at 3:29 PM | That is probably wise. (Score:5 Normal)
bacon1431
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That is probably wise.

For a' that, an' a' that, 
Our toils obscure an' a' that, 
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, 
The man's the gowd for a' that. 
March 1st, 2012 at 4:23 PM | Ex-Coach Sid Gillman (Score:3 Normal)
JudgeMart
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I believe ex-Buckeye coach and AFL and NFL innovator Sid Gillman said it best when he was asked why he wished to keep coaching in the NFL and not return to college coaching:  "I'm not going back to any job where a 19 year old is running down the sidelines with my paycheck in his mouth".

"There is no dark side of the moon, really.  As a matter of fact, it's all dark."
March 1st, 2012 at 4:44 PM | Haha... (Score:1)
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Gillman also coached and later mentored a certain coach/paternal figure/AD who is kind of popular around these parts.

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-Carol Hutchins

March 1st, 2012 at 3:41 PM | So what you're really trying (Score:-1 Normal)
March 1st, 2012 at 3:43 PM | You should stop dating hookers (Score:5 Normal)
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I'm just saying...

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

March 1st, 2012 at 5:35 PM | Joke = FAIL. Back to (Score:5 Normal)
CorkyCole
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Joke = FAIL.

Back to mgohibernation until my mgoshame has lifted.

March 1st, 2012 at 3:52 PM | Rushing into (Score:5 Normal)
rockediny
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Rushing into marriage.....great idea!

"There will be blood on the field and it won't be mine." -KK

March 1st, 2012 at 5:53 PM | Marriage...Great idea! (Score:5 Normal)
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Marriage...Great idea!

Special Teams means special times!

March 1st, 2012 at 4:45 PM | I shouldn't admit to this but (Score:2 Normal)
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I shouldn't admit to this but I do read bucknuts. My buddy had a membership and I let him read espn with my account so its a good trade off but Bucknuts has a little radio show on this week and Dunn was on there. Not in the actual podcast did he say it but off air he said the Dymonte is going to Michigan and theres no chnaging his mind. He told the host of the show not to ask about cause it was a dead issue. Buckeye fans were like meh hes just saying that, but if Dymonte actually has said that to Dunn and he is respecting his wishes then Kudo's.

 

Touchdown Manningham!  MICHIGAN WINS! 

March 1st, 2012 at 3:11 PM | Better for us that they pour energy into recruiting Dymonte (Score:5 Normal)
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This is actually great, and only helps Michigan:

  • It ends up wasting their time
  • It irritates Dymonte
  • It keeps Dymonte in the limelight, thus highlighting Michigan recruiting success
  • It proves that some good recruits, from Ohio, want nothing to do with Ohio.
  • It shows other recruits that Meyer doesn't have a magical pull.
  • It irritates Ohio fans.

All of these outcomes are a positive. I can't think of any negatives, can you?

"It does not matter how many times you get knocked down, but how many times you get up." Vince Lombardi

 

March 1st, 2012 at 3:14 PM | Only if he does manage to (Score:4 Normal)
ILwolverine
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Only if he does manage to flip him.

This might be arrogant, and if it is, it is, but we're Michigan

March 1st, 2012 at 3:15 PM | Well, one negative is that (Score:5 Normal)
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Well, one negative is that Meyer might flip him to Ohio.

This has nothing to do with Michigan football.

March 1st, 2012 at 3:17 PM | If Emperor Palpatine couldn't (Score:5 Normal)
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If Emperor Palpatine couldn't recruit Luke then Urban isn't going to flip Dymonte.

March 1st, 2012 at 3:27 PM | Palpatine also had the family (Score:4 Normal)
bacon1431
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Palpatine also had the family thing on his side (just like Meyer has Brionte) as Luke's father was already committed to the dark side. Luke, unbelievably, eventually got his father to decommit. Although I don't think Brionte would transfer to Michigan, this example does provide confidence that Dymonte will stick with his commitment and resist the temptation of the dark side.

For a' that, an' a' that, 
Our toils obscure an' a' that, 
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, 
The man's the gowd for a' that. 
March 1st, 2012 at 3:33 PM | Beat me to it.  I like the (Score:3 Normal)
unWavering
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Beat me to it.  I like the way you think, but your dilithium digits are too dashing for this dude.

March 1st, 2012 at 4:09 PM | Star Wars Universe really is (Score:2 Normal)
bacon1431
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Star Wars Universe really is a good comparison for Michigan - OSU. Meyer is a total shyster just like Palpatine.

For a' that, an' a' that, 
Our toils obscure an' a' that, 
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, 
The man's the gowd for a' that. 
March 1st, 2012 at 5:02 PM | I'd say that Tressel was more (Score:5 Normal)
unWavering
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I'd say that Tressel was more like Palpatine.  After all, Tressel was called the Senator.  I think Meyer is more like Darth Maul.

March 1st, 2012 at 6:04 PM | I would say Meyer is more (Score:3 Normal)
bacon1431
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I would say Meyer is more Dooku than Maul. Dooku quit on the Jedi Order saying it just wasn't for him, only to resurface a little while later on the Dark Side. Meyer quit coaching citing health problem, only to come back a year later coaching for the Buckeyes.

Good call on Tressel - Emperor Palpatine. Tressel rose to power during a sensitive time in Michigan football. Henson had just left us and Martin started to make cuts in all areas of the AD because of us being in trouble financial trouble after troubling leadership under the previous AD. Palpatine capitalized on a weakened Republic and the people and Senate started to panic and he really seized control. The galaxy didn't recover until after years of suffering and the Emperor got overconfident. Vader turned on him and the Empire was over. Took a while for Michigan to recover and it was aided just a tad by Buckeyes turning on themselves and committing violations and Tressel being overconfident and hiding info from the NCAA, eventually screwing them over.

Darth Maul was so awesome. One of the few things that Lucas got right in the prequels. Too bad he killed him off.

For a' that, an' a' that, 
Our toils obscure an' a' that, 
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, 
The man's the gowd for a' that. 
March 1st, 2012 at 6:18 PM | In the Tressel-as-Palpatine (Score:3 Normal)
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In the Tressel-as-Palpatine conversation, does that make Terrelle Pryor Darth Vader?

March 1st, 2012 at 7:40 PM | I say Dunn is because he was (Score:2)
UMichYank11
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I say Dunn is because he was thought to be blue and then went to the dark side in the end...the Dymonte is Luke

What my comparison is saying is that eventually Dunn will be at Michigan or the good side.

Hurray for NERDS!

March 1st, 2012 at 9:32 PM | Same thing happened with (Score:2)
BostonWolverine
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Same thing happened with Pryor. I maintain that he's Vader in this storyline.

March 1st, 2012 at 10:25 PM | Vader is cool. Pryor is not. (Score:1)
bacon1431
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Vader is cool though. Pryor is not. I prefer to think of Pryor as the dianoga from Episode IV. You know, the garbage worm in the death star? He could be bantha poodoo as well.

For a' that, an' a' that, 
Our toils obscure an' a' that, 
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, 
The man's the gowd for a' that. 
March 1st, 2012 at 10:50 PM | So are we now saying that (Score:4 Normal)
bornintheArbor
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So are we now saying that Dunn is Dymonte's father?  Because now it's getting weird.

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March 1st, 2012 at 6:05 PM | Star Wars double post - better than a regular double post (Score:1)
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Hooray for being a nerd!

For a' that, an' a' that, 
Our toils obscure an' a' that, 
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, 
The man's the gowd for a' that. 
March 1st, 2012 at 3:29 PM | Hopefully that means that (Score:2)
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Hopefully that means that Dymonte will get Dunn to transfer to us, ala Luke and Vader.

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