Home
DON'T PANIC

Primary links

  • About
    • $upport (lol)
    • Ethics
    • FAQ
    • Privacy Policy
    • Sitemap
  • Contact
  • BlogPoll
    • Join
    • Blogpoll Editorial Guy @ CBS
    • Votes By Blog
    • Votes By Team
    • Voting Philosophy
    • Links For Voters
  • MGoStore
  • MGoBoard
  • Useful Stuff
    • 2011 Recruiting Board
    • 2010 Recruiting Board
    • Crude Bug Tracking System
    • Depth Chart By Class
    • MGoBoard FAQ
    • Third Down Stats
    • Diaries, Windows Live Writer, And You
Home Diaries the_white_tiger's blog

User login

  • Create new account
  • Request new password

MGoElsewhere

  • Brian @ TSB
  • Brian @ Bucknuts
  • Hail To The Victors 2009
  • Facebook profile
  • MGoKindle Store
  • @MGoBlog (Twitter)
  • mgo.licio.us
  • RSS Feed
  • Brian @ AOL [Archive]

Michigan Blogs

  • Big House Blog
  • Blah Blah Blah
  • Bo Schemblogger
  • Genuinely Sarcastic
  • Go Blue Michigan Wolverine
  • MGoBlue Football
  • MGoFootball
  • MVictors
  • Maize 'n' Blue Nation
  • Maize 'n' Brew
  • Maize And Go Blue
  • Michigan Football Recruiting
  • Michigan Football Saturdays
  • Michigan Hockey Net
  • Michigan Sports Center
  • Ron Bellamy's Underachieving All Stars
  • Spawn of M Zone
  • The Blog That Yost Built
  • The Diag
  • The Game
  • The Hoover Street Rag
  • The Wolverine Blog
  • Three And Out
  • UMGoBlog
  • UMHoops
  • UMTailgate
  • Varsity Blue
  • When Carcajous Attack!
  • Wolverine Liberation Army
  • Wolverines Daily
  • iBlog For Cookies

M On The Net

  • mgovideo
  • MGoBlue.com
  • Mike DeSimone
  • Recruiting Planet
  • The Wolverine
  • Go Blue Wolverine
  • Winged Helmet
  • UMGoBlue.com
  • MaizeRage.org
  • Puckhead
  • The M Den
  • True Blue Fan Forum

Big Ten Blogs

  • Illinois
    • Illinitalk
    • Illini Basketball Fans
    • Illinois Baseball Report
    • Illinois Loyalty
  • Indiana
    • Inside The Hall
    • The Hoosier Report
    • Behind The Plate
    • Cannot Falter
  • Iowa
    • Black Heart, Gold Pants
  • Michigan State
    • The Only Colors
  • Minnesota
    • GopherHole.com
    • The Daily Gopher
    • Buck Bravo
    • TNABACG
  • Northwestern
    • Lake The Posts
  • Notre Dame
    • ND Choo Choo
    • The House Rock Built
    • The Blue-Gray Sky
  • Ohio State
    • We Will Always Have Tempe
    • Buckeye Commentary
    • Eleven Warriors
    • Jim Tressel's Head
    • Men of the Scarlet and Gray
    • Our Honor Defend
    • The Buckeye Nine
  • Penn State
    • Black Shoe Diaries
    • Happy Valley Hardball
    • Penn State Clips
    • Nittany White Out
  • Purdue
    • Boiled Sports
    • Hammer and Rails
  • Wisconsin
    • Bruce Ciskie

Links of Note

  • Baseball
    • Big Ten Hardball
    • College Baseball Today
    • The Baseball Zealot
    • The College Baseball Blog
  • Basketball
    • Ken Pomeroy
    • Basketball Prospectus
    • Midmajority
  • College Hockey
    • Chris Heisenberg
    • College Hockey Stats
    • Inside College Hockey
    • Michigan College Hockey
    • Hockey's Future
    • Sioux Sports
    • USCHO
    • Western College Hockey
    • CCHA
      • LSSU Hockey
      • Bronco Hockey Blog
  • Football
    • Every Day Should Be Saturday
    • Doctor Saturday
    • CFB Stats
    • Harold Stassen
    • NCAA D-I Stats Page
    • The Wizard Of Odds
  • General
    • Sports Central
  • Local Interest
    • The Ann Arbor Chronicle
    • Arborwiki
    • Arbor Update
    • Teeter Talk
    • Vacuum
  • Teams Of The D
    • Lions
      • Pride of Detroit
      • Fire Millen
    • Pistons
      • Detroit Bad Boys
      • Need4Sheed
    • Tigers
      • Roar Of The Tigers
      • The Detroit Tigers Weblog
      • The Daily Fungo
    • Red Wings
      • On The Wings
      • Behind The Jersey
      • Winging It In Motown
    • Michigan Sports Forum

Archive

  • November 2009 (72)
  • October 2009 (107)
  • September 2009 (132)
  • August 2009 (94)
  • July 2009 (56)
  • June 2009 (42)
  • May 2009 (41)
  • April 2009 (49)
  • March 2009 (59)
  • February 2009 (60)
  •  
  • 1 of 6
  • ››

Get Yer Tickets

CFB Betting Odds

Get free Michigan Wolverine college football predictions and NCAA basketball picks.

For the best football picks and online football betting information visit BangTheBook.com

Get great Michigan college football tickets for an amazing price from OnlineSeats. We have every team and every sport, including Tigers tickets.



Sports Betting Lines: Betting on All Sports: Real sports betting action. Try LinesMaker.com for free sports betting lines updated in real time. Massive free sports bets and cash bonuses for new members. Sign up for free!

Sports Betting Lines: Preview all sports betting lines and odds at LinesMaker! We have live betting odds and lines for all sports events. It doesn't get any better than this: Sportsbetting3.com offers the best college football betting and pro football NFL betting. Like casino games? Discover the best online casinos at the top casino site, Plazacasinos.com

Check out the Penn State preview. Get free College Football Picks from the National Sports Advisors.

Get free College basketball Picks and basketball odds at Doc's Sports.

Have a fantasy league? You can find quality Trophies for every sport at Lamb Awards.

Fooball Betting from Bet Vega.

TheSeats.com has tickets for all your NCAA football favorites like the Michigan Wolverines, Nebraska Cornhuskers, Wisconsin Badgers, Rose Bowl tickets and many more!

Beveled Guilt

Diaries

  • New
  • Popular
  • Hot
  • Baseball Early Signings
    formerlyanonymous - 2 hours ago
  • On The Eve of Battle....
    jsquigg - 2 hours ago
  • By The Numbers - The Game
    The Mathlete - 6 hours ago
  • Big 10 Picks: What Is Michigan Football Edition
    jamiemac - 7 hours ago
  • Ugly Game of the Week - Week 12 Is MAC-tacular!
    stubob - 8 hours ago
  •  
  • 1 of 292
  • ››
more
  • An Interview with Dillon Baxter
    TomVH - 3,771 views
  • Michigan has gone from a rally team to a fall apart team
    Brhino - 3,425 views
  • 2010 Outlook - The Defense
    AC1997 - 3,324 views
  • A Countenance More in Sorrow Than in Anger
    Misopogon - 2,726 views
  • The Rodriguez Record Developing Defensive Talent at UM
    PurpleStuff - 2,485 views
  •  
  • 1 of 8
  • ››
more
  • What it means to me to be a "Walmart Wolverine"
    Plegerize - 103 comments
  • A Countenance More in Sorrow Than in Anger
    Misopogon - 73 comments
  • An Interview with Dillon Baxter
    TomVH - 66 comments
  • Michigan has gone from a rally team to a fall apart team
    Brhino - 48 comments
  • The Rodriguez Record Developing Defensive Talent at UM
    PurpleStuff - 45 comments
  •  
  • 1 of 7
  • ››
more

MGoBoard

  • New
  • Recent
  • Hot
  • Tom
  • UM vs. OSU 2006, on ESPN Classic right now
    3 replies
  • Just some reminders
    0 replies
  • CBS's Spencer Tillman picks Michigan over OSU
    8 replies
  • Offensive UFR
    4 replies
  • New Record for M Defense?
    3 replies
  • should michigan have....
    5 replies
  • Fire Rich Rod buttons
    22 replies
  • Rich Rodriguez Chant for tomorrow
    4 replies
  • This is'nt going to happen but what if???
    24 replies
  • Words of Wisdom from Charles Woodson
    13 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 41
  • ››
  • UM vs. OSU 2006, on ESPN Classic right now
    3 replies
  • CBS's Spencer Tillman picks Michigan over OSU
    8 replies
  • Words of Wisdom from Charles Woodson
    13 replies
  • Offensive UFR
    4 replies
  • Fire Rich Rod buttons
    22 replies
  • New Record for M Defense?
    3 replies
  • Don't liveblog the OSU game
    24 replies
  • should michigan have....
    5 replies
  • Just some reminders
    0 replies
  • 97.1 (mike valenti) reporting that the ground has been laid to let RR go if michigan gets blown out...
    131 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 41
  • ››
  • 500 things we love about Ohio st.
    155 replies
  • 97.1 (mike valenti) reporting that the ground has been laid to let RR go if michigan gets blown out...
    131 replies
  • OT: Friday Night College Football Open Thread
    126 replies
  • I'm sorry guys...I just can't get excited about this game.
    123 replies
  • Michigan Wisconsin Game thread
    102 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 82
  • ››
  • Questions about some less talked about prospects
    7 replies
  • News that was reported a couple hours ago...
    53 replies
  • Holmes Onwukaife Update
    28 replies
  • "Weekend visitors" thread
    37 replies
  • Tate's Status - Weekend Visitors
    22 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 3
  • ››

mgo.licio.us

Football betting

If you're looking for online football betting, look no further! Party Bets is safe, fast and secure.

NCAA basketball odds

Get live NCAA basketball odds from multiple sportsbooks at OddsShark.com

Yes, We Know That Most of You Don't Want UConn.

By the_white_tiger — August 2nd, 2009 at 12:19 PM — 79 comments
Filed under:
  • 2010 scheduling
  • UConn

Editor's note: with the recent influx of quality diary entries I'm reviving a short-lived plan from last football season and bumping my favorite to the front page once a week.This might be tricky during football season but we'll play it by ear.

 
UConn taking popular choice Virginia to the woodshed 45-10 last year (sorry MaizeandBlueWahoo)

Donald Brown the 27th overall choice of the 2009 NFL Draft

Okay, it's UConn, the general reaction from the MGoCommunity has been, "UConn, why would we play them for the opener? Bill Martin is an idiot!" UConn's blog has caught wind of the opener and is pretty excited but has however noted our comments on the situation.

Man UCONN would be a HORRIBLE game. We all had illusions of grandeur for a huge opponent and per usual they get blown to bits.

It’s a lose/lose for UM! We win and no one really cares outside the fan base. We lose and we just lost to a middling to low BCS team from a weak, weak conference. I’d rather schedule a true pansy and just annihilate them.

UConn is worse than WMU. I hope it’s not them because a 7-5 team in the Big East does not deserve a home and home.

Ouch. Not our highest praise for the Huskies, they even said MGoBlog was "a simply fantastic website devoted to Michigan football". We do have a basketball program too, even if it is nothing like yours. To be fair, Connecticut, a program that has been in a BCS conference for less than a decade, is not our illusion of the Wolverines taking on the Bulldogs (no, not Fresno State) nor the Broncos. It's not the big splash that we anticipated to be sure, but this late in the process it's not totally a terrible "MAC-level opponent." They play in a BCS conference (the BCS is not every conference in the FCS Division, there are six BCS Conferences. The Big East is one).

Another reason that we are angry with this choice is the fact that it is indeed a home-and-home with the 2013 return game being played here. Rentschler stadium is not the Big House, it's only approximately 36% of the capacity. Michigan fans are frustrated with the fact that a precious OOC road game that isn't in South Bend is being played at a relatively tiny staium, and that Connecticut is getting a home-and-home instead of a 2-for-1 at least. Proposed locations for the return game include Gillette Stadium, Yankee Stadium, and the Meadowlands but are not legitimate choices because of this. Notre Dame screwed over UConn with the "5 games in South Bend, and the rest not in Connecticut" schedule which UConn did to get some exposure and go from "basketball school who has a new football team" to "big-time major college football program."


Not the Big House

Thus Michigan is resigned to play a game in the state of Connecticut , which is nice for the East Coast fans and alumni who haven't seen a game out there since Michigan defeated Boston College in 1994, but not great for many others. Brodie proposed going to the Yale Bowl, which has more capacity than Rentschler. Michigan will be the biggest name ever to play there, and UConn is lucky to have a big-time team there while only sacrificing one away game.

The MGoCommunity is also not too happy with the fact that UConn is not a team with the "prestige" of another potential BCS opponent, such as Virginia (see above). The point is, Michigan doesn't need a phenomenal (read conference championship contender in a BCS conference) opponent next year. Reasons are here, in Michigan Arrogance's excellent diary.
Some quick facts on Connecticut, not a lot is known around here about the Huskies. Most historical information (that being said, not much) found here:
  • The Huskies have been playing football since 1896, and in 1-A since 2001. (Interestingly, they and Villanova were both given the choice to become a football member in the Big East. Obviously Villanova passed).
  • They have been to three bowl games, going 2-1.
  • UConn tied West Virginia for their only Big East title, but WVU got the BCS berth because of this loss at the hands of Rich Rodriguez. More on Rich Rod versus Connecticut here.
  • Coach Randy Edsall is 58-60 at UConn, 49-36 in the FCS, and was rumored to be a candidate for the Syracuse job vacated by Michigan Defensive Coordinator Greg Robinson.
  • This is how the Huskies have fared since entering the Big East in 2004, not phenomenal but pretty successful at 34-29:
Year:Record:
20048-4
20055-6
20064-8
20079-4
20088-5

  • In 2009, the Huskies look to replace 4(!) first day draft choices including Brown (above). They have a new offensive coordinator who looks to ignite an anemic passing game, which reminds me of Michigan's last year. They have a four-star former Notre Dame quarterback Zach Frazer who looks to lock down the starting job and a stable of backs to replace Brown. CFN, NY Times on Connecticut's 2009 season. We will be rooting for the Huskies this year because we want Michigan to beat a good team* in the opener. They are a young team and figure to be more experienced and successful next year.
*We know that a win is not a given considering Michigan's recent failures in the season openers.


Dan Orlovsky, former Husky

Thus, 'tis Connecticut. A bunch of anonymous MGoBloggers will not change Bill Martin's mind (or a contract for that matter). This move does make sense as it is a BCS opponent, Michigan has a good chance of winning since by then Rodriguez should have the ball moving, and it is far harder to schedule and defeat a big-name opponent in real life than it is in a video game (I note your examples of Alabama-Penn State, and Ohio State-USC and counter with the seven mediocre opponents that PSU and OSU combine for OOC this year). Martin is reaching out to a very large alumni base out east and giving them a game in their vicinity for the first time in a long time, even if it is in a small stadium and a home-and-home (the largest athletic department in the country scheduled a home-and-home in Laramie, Texas plays at Wyoming this year). It's hard to call UConn a great, up-and-coming program, but the Huskies are improving and playing good football. Maybe it wasn't the Gameday game we were looking for, but it should still be a good game (which we will have a far greater chance of winning than if it was against Boise State or Georgia), the comparisons to the 2006 game against Vanderbilt are not fair. Kudos to Martin for scheduling the Huskies.
  • the_white_tiger's blog
  • Login or register to post comments
  • ShareThis

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
Posted on: August 7th, 2009 at 9:25 PM #1
MaizenBlueBP
MaizenBlueBP's picture
Joined: 2009-08-03
Points: 199
Offline
Cupcakes

I guess I'm one for scheduling at least 1 cupcake and it should be the season opener to get the gears turning right. The problem with playing a big time BCS team in the opener is generally how sloppy the game would be since it would be the first live contact for a lot of the team since the spring game. And choosing to do so against a Florida, Georgia, or a USC increases the odds of a loss (Michigan hasn't faired particularly well the past few seasons in the early season) My theory is this: Win 8 games this year and have the college football world take notice that Michigan is "back" lock down a great 2010 class and then start prowling the globe for a top 15 program. We want as many prospects as possible to see the Maize and Blue on the big screen in prime time. But for the time being I'll take the huskies until we can prove that we're worthy of a big time opponent.

Hail Hail

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 4th, 2009 at 10:08 PM #2
tkp37
Joined: 2009-05-04
Points: 9
Offline
Learning

It's just that old debate that many high school teams have. Do we schedule "puppies" to get to six wins and get into the playoffs or do we schedule tough opponents and when we make the playoffs we are better for it.

I would love to see big blue play some tough opponents like Texas/USC/Florida, how fun would that be! It would create a ton of hype around the program and I would think be better for recruiting.

Hopefully U of M learns from this and gets on the ball a little quicker next time.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 6th, 2009 at 9:14 PM #3
TIMMMAAY
TIMMMAAY's picture
Joined: 2008-09-08
Points: 2732
Offline
Goddamnit man

It is not 'Big Blue'. We are the Maize and Blue, The Michigan Wolverines. We are not Big Blue, that sounds terrible, and I don't understand where people get this from.

Edit: Can I get a witness?

not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 3rd, 2009 at 10:11 AM #4
Token_sparty
Joined: 2009-07-20
Points: 166
Offline
Umm, grow a pair?

This whole discussion is similar to the closing-time monologues that go on in people's heads. 'She's not great, but she'll do.' 'He's not Mr. Right, but he is Mr. Right Here.'

Coach Rodriguez should have talked some junk to Florida and tried to get them to bite on a home-and-home. With the loss to Coach Carr in recent memory, I bet Urban Cryer would bite on that. They only play 4 away games, and have home games scheduled against OOC powerhouses Miami of Ohio, South Florida, Kentucky (not SEC, right?), and - wait for it - App State. They play Furman the following year. Talk a little shit about how they scheduled the wrong Miami, or how you didn't know the National Championship went through Appalachian State, and I bet you'd have that arrogant douchenozzle chomping at the bit. More importantly, you'd have a REAL opener, one that matters intensely and would have significant impact on the BCS standings right out of the box. Hey, even I would cheer for Michigan in that case. But I guess Michigan would rather play a team it should beat rather than challenge itself...

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 3rd, 2009 at 11:00 AM #5
Michigan Arrogance
Michigan Arrogance's picture
Joined: 2008-06-30
Points: 986
Offline
this is not

a serious post, right?

Harvard: The MICHIGAN of the East

We're not arrogant, we're just better.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 3rd, 2009 at 12:21 PM #6
Token_sparty
Joined: 2009-07-20
Points: 166
Offline
Check your signature.

If you're really better, and not just arrogant, prove it.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 3rd, 2009 at 12:52 PM #7
OSUckSteverMSUcks
OSUckSteverMSUcks's picture
Joined: 2009-04-27
Points: 1128
Offline
Lolzzzz...

Lolzzzz...

Drink Bleach Sparty!

Your parents wouldn't even cry if you died.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 3rd, 2009 at 5:55 PM #8
TIMMMAAY
TIMMMAAY's picture
Joined: 2008-09-08
Points: 2732
Offline
Un-called-for

Un-called-for

not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 3rd, 2009 at 10:24 PM #9
the_white_tiger
the_white_tiger's picture
Joined: 2009-02-07
Points: 1838
Online
Yeah cool it, buddy

and coming from a '"douchey" MGoBlog user' that means something.

Your ship may be comin in
You're weak but not givin in
To the cries and the wails of the valley below
And your ship may be comin in
You're weak but not givin in
And you'll fight it you'll go out fightin all of em

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 3rd, 2009 at 12:31 PM #10
Michigan Arrogance
Michigan Arrogance's picture
Joined: 2008-06-30
Points: 986
Offline
wait

wut?

Harvard: The MICHIGAN of the East

We're not arrogant, we're just better.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 3rd, 2009 at 10:22 AM #11
the_white_tiger
the_white_tiger's picture
Joined: 2009-02-07
Points: 1838
Online
What's State's OOC Schedule

What's State's OOC Schedule this year and next year?

Oh, and "talking shit" to Florida is not very smart, just watch Kiffin in the fourth quarter against UF. Rodriguez would never do it anyways, U of M has too much class. I thought that MSu did too... oh right. Dantonio. Never mind.

And I'd be willing to bet that they wouldn't want to schedule us anyways, they don't need to.

Your ship may be comin in
You're weak but not givin in
To the cries and the wails of the valley below
And your ship may be comin in
You're weak but not givin in
And you'll fight it you'll go out fightin all of em

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 3rd, 2009 at 12:20 PM #12
Token_sparty
Joined: 2009-07-20
Points: 166
Offline
Red Herring noted.

Red herring goes like this: your team isn't doing 'X', so don't blame my team for not doing 'X'. It's a false equivalence, one that really grates because the posters on this thread seem to be talking themselves into settling. I thought the 'Leaders and Best' didn't settle, right?

And, just for the record, I'd be THRILLED if Dantonio did what I'm suggesting UM does. Just for the record, it would work a lot better for UM because of the recent history. When Florida dodges MSU, they can say 'They aren't worth our time.' And it would be true. When Florida dodges UM, that same rationale obviously wouldn't apply- they would look gutless. I think it's wrong for a program not to challenge itself with its OOC schedule. I can't believe I'm the only one who thinks this way.

State's OOC games, this year and next? This year, they play Montana State (ugh), Western, Central, and ND. Next year, their schedule isn't completely set. They have an away game against Florida Atlantic and a TBA game against Western, along with ND. Michigan plays Western, Eastern, ND, and Delaware State this year, and next year plays UConn, UMass, ND, and Bowling Green. Yeah, that BG game is sure to be a barn-burner.

You never did address the substance of my argument- why do UM fans seem to be afraid of scheduling a real opponent? Why wouldn't you want to prove your ability to play BCS games? I would love for MSU to play Florida, Alabama, Texas, or USC; they would have a focus point for their team, and I'm sure they'd get better as a result of the experience, win or lose. I'd put up with the very strong likelihood of a loss if I had even a small chance of having a program-making win. Michigan's fans, OTOH, don't seem too keen to want to measure their team in this way, judging by the comments. That's why I posted.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 3rd, 2009 at 5:47 PM #13
TIMMMAAY
TIMMMAAY's picture
Joined: 2008-09-08
Points: 2732
Offline
Look, Sparty

We obviously tried to schedule a few bigger programs first, if you'd been paying attention you'd know that already. For whatever reason(s) it didn't happen, but the AD had talks w/ Georgia, UVA, OSU, and probably some others I'm not aware of.

Having said that, I don't like UConn for the dedication game; unless there is some significance that I don't know about yet.

not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 3rd, 2009 at 1:10 PM #14
the_white_tiger
the_white_tiger's picture
Joined: 2009-02-07
Points: 1838
Online
We do want to play good teams

We do want to play good teams but as I noted in my OP, it's harder to schedule and beat a real team than it is in a video game. Just because we want to doesn't mean it's gonna happen. We aren't afraid...

We aren't going to pick fights and insult other teams. That reeks of amateurism, and frankly it's best left to MSU.

Your ship may be comin in
You're weak but not givin in
To the cries and the wails of the valley below
And your ship may be comin in
You're weak but not givin in
And you'll fight it you'll go out fightin all of em

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 3rd, 2009 at 9:45 AM #15
Noah
Joined: 2008-07-02
Points: 82
Offline
Well said! I'm very curious

Well said! I'm very curious to see how much UConn can get done without Donald Brown this year. Plus I might still be on the East Coast by 2013 - it would be a lot of fun to go to the return game.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 3rd, 2009 at 9:22 AM #16
Anonymosity
Anonymosity's picture
Joined: 2008-06-30
Points: 830
Offline
Can't wait for that Thursday

Can't wait for that Thursday night game in 2013!

But, seriously, I'm on board for this. I don't know that we could have asked for BM to find a much better team with only a one year notice. Granted, I'm not sure why attempts to schedule this opener hadn't started much earlier (unless they were kept private). It's a solid opponent and should be a good game, with little prosepct of Michigan being blown out for the opening of the new stadium.

Could be worse. Could have scheduled MINNESOTA.

Ann Arbor: now the permanent home of the Little Brown Jug

66-22-3 all-time

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 5th, 2009 at 12:18 AM #17
CPS
CPS's picture
Joined: 2008-10-20
Points: 2612
Online
Could be worse. Could have

Could be worse. Could have scheduled MINNESOTA

Don't even get me started.

Recent recipient of the First Annual Award for Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 3rd, 2009 at 9:22 AM #18
Number 7
Joined: 2009-06-09
Points: 136
Offline
Alright, I'm in

Being a Connecticut resident (and assuming to still be one four years from now), I guess I should warm up to this. And I'm all for moving the game to the Yale Bowl, which would be even closer.

Still would have liked Syracuse-in-Yankee-Stadium better, though, especially because of this: http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/24/a-snub-for-syracuse/

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 3rd, 2009 at 8:44 AM #19
tk47
tk47's picture
Joined: 2009-06-13
Points: 157
Offline
I'm probably being a nitpicky

I'm probably being a nitpicky douche here, but it was in 1995 that we beat BC on the road. In 1994 we played them at home.

This was a great post though. Very informative and well-researched. My only beef with playing UConn is that with only 40k stadium capacity, it might make it tougher for me to get a ticket -- but I'll still plan on being there.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 3rd, 2009 at 8:51 AM #20
Brodie
Brodie's picture
Joined: 2008-11-19
Points: 4564
Offline
I'm not sure why this 40,000

I'm not sure why this 40,000 seat meme has been allowed to continue. By the time we get to East Hartford, it will have been expanded to 50k, the norm for Big East schools (and bigger than, say, Syracuse)

When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing. -- Bo Schembechler

200 linear feet of porn mags!

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 3rd, 2009 at 9:22 AM #21
Michigan Arrogance
Michigan Arrogance's picture
Joined: 2008-06-30
Points: 986
Offline
i think it's b/c people

think we'll get 1/2 the gate. which, like, no.

Harvard: The MICHIGAN of the East

We're not arrogant, we're just better.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 3rd, 2009 at 8:22 AM #22
MichFan1997
MichFan1997's picture
Joined: 2008-08-04
Points: 3486
Offline
By 2013

I'm going to be 26. Hmm...it might be fun to make the trip out there for the return game.

Michigan Wolverines: 874 wins, .740 winning percentage, 42 Big Ten Titles, 11 National Titles, 3 Heisman winners, and 150 consensus All-Americans

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 3rd, 2009 at 12:55 AM #23
cutter
Joined: 2008-07-07
Points: 44
Offline
Some thoughts on Michigan's 2010 Schedule . . . .

First off, here's what the full 2010 football schedule looks like with the addition of UConn:

9/4 - CONNECTICUT
9/11 - At Notre Dame
9/18 - MASSACHUSETTS
9/25 - BOWLING GREEN
10/2 - At Indiana
10/9 - MICHIGAN STATE
10/16 - IOWA
10/23 - Bye
10/30 - At Penn State
11/6 - ILLINOIS
11/13 - At Purdue
11/20 - WISCONSIN
11/27 - At Ohio State

I think Connecticut is a good team to schedule for the 2010 season opener. The Huskies should be the type of opponent that should be get Michigan's full effort and will be good preparation for the following week's game in South Bend against Notre Dame. If the offense comes around in 2009, it should be in pretty good shape by 2010. I think it'll take a bit longer for the defense. That said, I don't think it made sense to UM to start the season with a marquee opponent, especially prior to a road game at ND.

Prior to the 2005 season, Michigan played Penn State/Michigan State at home and Ohio State/Notre Dame on the road during the even numbered seasons. PSU was off UM's schedule in 2003/4, then came back on in 2005. In that season, Michigan played Notre Dame, Penn State and Ohio State in Ann Arbor and Michigan State in East Lansing. During the even numbered seasons, it goes vice versa--that's what Michigan will see in 2010.

In 2011/12, Penn State and Purdue fall off Michigan's schedule. I suspect Bill Martin has asked the Big Ten to rectify the schedule and put it back to what it was in 2002 and earlier by 2013 so that PSU/MSU are road games and ND/OSU are home games in the odd numbered seasons and vice versa. That should even things out.

Given the BCS format and the fact the Big Ten has no conference championship game, any team from the B10 pretty much has to go undefeated to get to the championship game. As a general rule, it makes sense to schedule "smart", i.e., with only one major non-conference opponent at the maximum. I don't think this schedule would do much to jeopardize Michigan's chances to get into the national championship game (although I think the team will have to wait until 2011 to really get to national championship/BCS bowl game calibre).

Is Notre Dame a major or marquee opponent? Despite being #2 in overall winning percentage and #3 in overall wins, the last two decades (since ND's 1989 national championship) have been kind of a mixed bag for the Irish. Their overall winning percentage is .65984. That's good for #17 overall in Division 1-A and #16 among BCS teams (Brigham Young is #16 overall). But there's been a marked drop off at ND since 1994--Notre Dame drops to #34 overall (.59615) and #26 among BCS programs.

The reason I bring this up is that Michigan has a scheduling agreement with Notre Dame going up to 2031. While the terms of the agreement haven't been made, it can be assumed that there will be some breaks in the schedule (this has happened three times since the series was renewed--the most recent was in 2000/1). It can also be assumed that the Michigan Athletic Department sees ND as a marquee opponent and shapes the football team's schedule with that in mind.

That means Michigan will not play a second major non-conference opponent as long as Notre Dame is on the schedule. The only time UM fans will see teams like Texas or LSU or Miami-Florida on the non-conference schedule will be when ND falls off of it. It makes no sense--its not smart scheduling--for any major BCS program to put two major non-confernece opponents on its schedule unless its conference is weak (the only one I think that hits that criteria is the Big East).

Why does the Michigan Athletic Department like having Notre Dame regularly on the schedule? Despite thier recent recent, ND still has the highest name recognition above any other program in college football. That means there are large fan segments who like the game, its easy to promote for the television networks, recruits like to visit during that game, each team keeps their home receipts, etc. In sum, the UM AD seens ND as a net asset to the schedule and isn't willing to change things up. You could argue--and I would agree--that there are a score of programs Michigan could play that would have essentially the same effect, but we aren't in the meetings making the decisions.

It will be interesting to see if this series with UConn marks a change in Michigan's overall scheduling strategy. In recent past, UM's had alternating seasons of seven and eight home games with an eye on revenue maximization.

But the landscape is changing and the amount of money programs have been asking for to playing games with no return dates has increased. Just recently, New Mexico State University received nearly $1 million to play at Georgia. UM paid Utah $800 K last year while the two MAC teams--Miami-Ohio and Toledo--received a total of $975K. Will the dollars and cents change the way UM does things so that the Wolverines will only play seven home games a year and annually have a second non-conference home and hom series?

It will be interesing to see if UM sets up a second home-and-home series as part of the non-conference scheduling (along with the Notre Dame game). If so, I suspect Michigan will be playing teams in the Top 25 to Top 50 of college football--that would be programs like Clemson or Texas A&M or Arizona State. It would certainly be a step up for Michigan if the Wolverines regularly scheduled Notre Dame, a Top 25-50 program, and two lesser/MAC opponents. We'll see what transpires for 2011/12 when Penn State rolls off the schedule.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 2nd, 2009 at 11:19 PM #24
wiscwood
wiscwood's picture
Joined: 2009-07-24
Points: 186
Offline
2010 Opener

UConn will have to do for an opener in 2010. They don't look that bad.
Michigan should be at full strength, personnell wise by then. Another year of seasoning for the o-line and a really good game should ensue. Michigan will win in the end. Our crowd of 112,000 should make them melt in their shorts. The stadium should be so much more loud than in past years. Imagine an ear deafening Michigan Stadium. Can't wait to hear it.

Victors Valiant '88

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 2nd, 2009 at 10:35 PM #25
Brodie
Brodie's picture
Joined: 2008-11-19
Points: 4564
Offline
Michigan will be the biggest

Michigan will be the biggest name ever to play there, and UConn is lucky to have a big-time team there while only sacrificing one away game.

Are you talking about the Yale Bowl here? Because, like, the New York Giants played there for two years.

When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing. -- Bo Schembechler

200 linear feet of porn mags!

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 3rd, 2009 at 9:41 AM #26
the_white_tiger
the_white_tiger's picture
Joined: 2009-02-07
Points: 1838
Online
I meant Rentschler.

I meant Rentschler.

Your ship may be comin in
You're weak but not givin in
To the cries and the wails of the valley below
And your ship may be comin in
You're weak but not givin in
And you'll fight it you'll go out fightin all of em

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 2nd, 2009 at 9:19 PM #27
mgovictors23
mgovictors23's picture
Joined: 2009-05-03
Points: 880
Offline
Great Post

I was really skeptical when I first heard UConn was the team we had scheduled. Some of the things you said though made me feel a little better about them being the opener.Hopefully they have a good year this year so there will be hype for the game in 2010.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 2nd, 2009 at 8:39 PM #28
Don
Joined: 2008-06-30
Points: 3225
Offline
Part of the problem is what's happened to ND recently

If ND had been a true power along the lines of a USC or a Florida the last few years (i.e, if Weis really did bring a schematic advantage), then I think a lot of fans like me would have had far weaker urges to schedule another strong team. ND is the supposed marquee team in our OOC sked, but they really haven't played like it much.

I still am unenthusiastic about UConn because I don't think playing them has much upside at this point in time, but if they win the Big East title this year and/or have an excellent season and win a bowl game of some note, then by opening day a year from now the matchup will look considerably better.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 3rd, 2009 at 9:18 AM #29
Michigan Arrogance
Michigan Arrogance's picture
Joined: 2008-06-30
Points: 986
Offline
i kind of disagree w/ Don

1) we haven't played much like a marquee team either

2) i think it's more about getting the same team every year. the grass is always greener... yadda yadda yadda, let's play texas instead.

Harvard: The MICHIGAN of the East

We're not arrogant, we're just better.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 2nd, 2009 at 8:52 PM #30
doxa
doxa's picture
Joined: 2008-06-30
Points: 94
Offline
Your first paragraph is

Your first paragraph is phenomenal! Well said...

doxa

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 2nd, 2009 at 8:50 PM #31
the_white_tiger
the_white_tiger's picture
Joined: 2009-02-07
Points: 1838
Online
To be honest I wouldn't bet

To be honest I wouldn't bet on it. They will probably not be too good this year.

Your ship may be comin in
You're weak but not givin in
To the cries and the wails of the valley below
And your ship may be comin in
You're weak but not givin in
And you'll fight it you'll go out fightin all of em

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 2nd, 2009 at 8:12 PM #32
VAWolverine
Joined: 2008-11-06
Points: 847
Offline
UConn

I'm OK with UConn as next seasons opener. It's difficult to negotiate an addition to your schedule only 13 months from when the game is scheduled and it seems like we had few options. We played Virginia in 1995 and this could be Al Groh's last year in Charlottesville, so they do not want that again if they have to bring in a new coach. I think a home and home with North Carolina would be great to schedule. Butch Davis has that team improving and the UNC campus is great to visit. We've also played UCLA several times in the past and that has always been a good match up.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 2nd, 2009 at 6:54 PM #33
bleedscarlet
Joined: 2008-07-11
Points: 20
Offline
it's not like

UConn is a doormat. They're a poor man's MSU. With a stout defense, and an offensive playbook roughly consisting of three different off-tackle runs, it's best to just think of this as that mythical ninth Big Ten conference game.

my (middling) Rutgers blog - http://bleedscarlet.wordpress.com

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 2nd, 2009 at 8:36 PM #34
the_white_tiger
the_white_tiger's picture
Joined: 2009-02-07
Points: 1838
Online
It's kind of an insult to

It's kind of an insult to MSU's offense. I mean, they are an extremely impoverished man's MSU if they throw 5 touchdowns and 17 interceptions on the year. Frazer went 0 for 4 with 3 INTS against Pitt. Bad, bad, bad. They still went 8-5 on the year though. That's a testament to good coaching.

Gerg, put 10 in the box and see what happens. Odds are not much.

Your ship may be comin in
You're weak but not givin in
To the cries and the wails of the valley below
And your ship may be comin in
You're weak but not givin in
And you'll fight it you'll go out fightin all of em

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 2nd, 2009 at 6:10 PM #35
doxa
doxa's picture
Joined: 2008-06-30
Points: 94
Offline
You almost had me...

Well written, but I still disagree. I'll let these speak for me:

doxa

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 2nd, 2009 at 8:48 PM #36
the_white_tiger
the_white_tiger's picture
Joined: 2009-02-07
Points: 1838
Online
That intro screams "high

That intro screams "high school that got their hands on a fog machine" to me.

Your ship may be comin in
You're weak but not givin in
To the cries and the wails of the valley below
And your ship may be comin in
You're weak but not givin in
And you'll fight it you'll go out fightin all of em

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 2nd, 2009 at 8:14 PM #37
A tree
A tree's picture
Joined: 2008-10-04
Points: 281
Offline
.

Pause at :33 on the first video to see what I meant.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 2nd, 2009 at 5:15 PM #38
MaizeAndBlueWahoo
Joined: 2008-07-02
Points: 3053
Offline
That was the same weekend as

That was the same weekend as the ND game last year. Never have I been so happy to have a wedding deprive me of my football.

Blogging the once-resurgent Virginia Cavaliers at http://fromoldvirginia.blogspot.com.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 2nd, 2009 at 9:47 PM #39
the_white_tiger
the_white_tiger's picture
Joined: 2009-02-07
Points: 1838
Online
I feel kind of bad that I

I feel kind of bad that I posted that. Sorry.

Your ship may be comin in
You're weak but not givin in
To the cries and the wails of the valley below
And your ship may be comin in
You're weak but not givin in
And you'll fight it you'll go out fightin all of em

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 2nd, 2009 at 4:04 PM #40
Uncle_Rico
Joined: 2009-05-18
Points: 23
Offline
I still don't like the choice ...

If that is in fact what it was - a choice. Heck, maybe there just weren't any other options out there at this stage. Tough to tell what other schools like UVa, Pitt, etc. were saying, if they were indeed contacted.

All that notwithstanding, you've only managed to solidify my reasons for disliking it.

A) Yes, CFB world, UConn is a very solid program. Those who didn't know need to educate themselves. This is a very loseable game, whether in 2010 or 2013.

B) There's no real recruiting base out there. If you're heading east, ya don't go to New Englend to find recruits and get nat'l exposure, ya go to Va, Pitt, NJ, etc.

C) There's no substantial payoff there with the return game, as ticket sales (for New Englanders like me) will be hard to come by.

Put all that together, and you have nary a "Win" in the situation to speak of - not much positives if we win, and a whole lot of grief if we lose (even to a very solid team) Still hard to see the silver lining in this one....

- Uncle Rico

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 2nd, 2009 at 4:23 PM #41
the_white_tiger
the_white_tiger's picture
Joined: 2009-02-07
Points: 1838
Online
I'm not in love with it either; it is what it is

A.) That is why Martin scheduled them, so what if they're a home-and-home, odd years are when we get Ohio State and Notre Dame at home anyways. Martin was looking to schedule a good program and ultimately that is what this is. Name recognition hurt us though.

B.) I don't think Pitt, Rutgers, or Virginia would help a whole lot in recruiting, maybe more than Connecticut but not a whole lot. This was pretty much a non-factor in Martin's choice in my humble e-pinion.

C.) The ticket sales go to the home team only, and frankly a game out there in a small stadium will b better than no game at all. If a 50/50 split occurs (as was mentioned earlier in the thread) there are still 20,000 Michigan fans and alumni at the game which is more than there would have been if there wasn't one at all.

Your ship may be comin in
You're weak but not givin in
To the cries and the wails of the valley below
And your ship may be comin in
You're weak but not givin in
And you'll fight it you'll go out fightin all of em

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 2nd, 2009 at 3:22 PM #42
meals69
meals69's picture
Joined: 2008-07-24
Points: 159
Offline
i think UCONN is great the the opener...

I was just suprised to see it was a home and home, we don't do that alot

Fuck Urban Meyer!

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 2nd, 2009 at 1:09 PM #43
Wolverine 98284
Joined: 2008-11-28
Points: 79
Offline
Nicely done!

Great reasoning. Now if Mr. Martin would apply the same 'reach out to the alumni' logic and schedule something with Washington or Washington State.

Wolverine 98284

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 2nd, 2009 at 12:49 PM #44
Bryan
Bryan's picture
Joined: 2009-07-10
Points: 1214
Offline
Texas scheduled a

Texas scheduled a home-and-home with Wyoming? wtf?

I have a Fandom Endurance III merit badge

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 2nd, 2009 at 12:38 PM #45
WildcatBlue
WildcatBlue's picture
Joined: 2008-08-09
Points: 2375
Offline
Thanks for the post

It's refreshing to have real content these days.

Four years is a long time in politics, so I'm still hoping an alternate and larger venue can be found.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 1st, 2009 at 11:44 AM #46
a2bluefan
a2bluefan's picture
Joined: 2008-12-29
Points: 494
Offline
Great, somewhat calming, post

Great, somewhat calming, post overall.

The only thing I take issue with is the very last sentence. Bill Martin shoulda been on this years ago. I guess I have no way of knowing he wasn't.... but given some of the other matchups that our rivals have managed to schedule, it looks an awful lot like BM dropped the ball.

I'm ultimately OK with the matchup. Just don't ask me to give Martin a pat on the back for this one.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 1st, 2009 at 8:53 AM #47
GatrHatr
GatrHatr's picture
Joined: 2009-05-02
Points: 320
Offline
I agree

Now that I finished whining about it, I will root for UConn to do well this year and build some anticipation for next year.

"Should I do it, should I not? Then I crossed the goal line and was like Fuck It! and I did it." - Desmond Howard

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 1st, 2009 at 9:00 AM #48
the_white_tiger
the_white_tiger's picture
Joined: 2009-02-07
Points: 1838
Online
That's what I meant to say.

That's what I meant to say. Didn't come out right.

Your ship may be comin in
You're weak but not givin in
To the cries and the wails of the valley below
And your ship may be comin in
You're weak but not givin in
And you'll fight it you'll go out fightin all of em

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 1st, 2009 at 5:08 AM #49
The King of Belch
The King of Belch's picture
Joined: 2009-07-21
Points: 1108
Offline
The Bottom Line

Here, and I think someone else mentioned it (and maybe it was the OP in his diary), is to schedule a BCS opponent that you are pretty sure you can beat in the first game at the newly renovated stadium. Not much else to say. I'm on board with UConn and look forward to the game and the unveiling of the new Big House.

That being said, it is what it is.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: August 1st, 2009 at 7:49 AM #50
the_white_tiger
the_white_tiger's picture
Joined: 2009-02-07
Points: 1838
Online
Maybe it wasn't the Gameday

Maybe it wasn't the Gameday game we were looking for, but it should still be a good game (which we will have a far greater chance of winning than if it was against Boise State or Georgia)

is what I said. I'm not positive that we can beat them but like I said, it's more likely than beating a Boise State team that is geared for a MNC run* or a very experienced Georgia squad.

*if they were in the PAC-10 and beat USC.

Your ship may be comin in
You're weak but not givin in
To the cries and the wails of the valley below
And your ship may be comin in
You're weak but not givin in
And you'll fight it you'll go out fightin all of em

  • Login or register to post comments
  • 1
  • 2
  • next ›
  • last »
Powered by Drupal, an open source content management system
Theme provided by Roopletheme; sidebars adapted from Chris Murphy.