Geeezz nobody is giving sparty a shot in the championship game. I like it.
Week 12 Big Ten Bowl Projections
So that was a pretty good weekend, no? If you'll recall from last week's installment, most of the pundits expected Michigan to end up somewhere around the Outback against some roughly equivalent SEC team, like Georgia or S Carolina. What a difference a week makes. There is now a concensus in terms of Michigan's projected destination.
So, on with the show...
|Post Week 12||Rittenberg||ESPN-Schlabach||ESPN-Edwards||CBS Sports||CNNSI||BTN||CFN|
|Fiesta||Oklahoma||Oklahoma||Ok State||Ok St||Ok State|
|Orange||Va Tech||Va Tech||Va Tech||Va Tech||Clemson|
|Outback||Nebraska||Nebraska||Penn St||msu||msu||Penn St||Penn St|
|S Car||S Car||S Car||S Car||S Car||Georgia|
|Care Care||Iowa||NW||Iowa||Purdue||Penn St||osu||Iowa|
|Little Caesars||Purdue||Ohio (YTO)||NW||NW||NW||NW||Illinois|
|Ohio (NTO)||Toledo||Toledo||Ohio (NTO)||Ohio (NTO)||NIU|
|Fight Hunger||Penn St|
First, the good news - every single projection has Michigan in the firckin' Sugar Bowl, baby! Who cares that it could be against Houston? I'd be fine with it.
In other near-unanimous news, all except Schlabach have Wisco-Oregon in the Rose. Schlabach sees msu winning the B1G.
The Big Ten is also expected to get 10 teams bowl eligible, hence the random R+L Carrier New Orleans Bowl, the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl, and the Gildan New Mexico Bowl.
Our little bros to the north are projected into the Rose (x1), Cap1 (x4), and Outback (x2). Nice how-do-you-do as the Big 10 runner up. Nebraska, on the other hand, is projected to the Cap 1 (x2), Outback (x2), Gator (x1), and the Insight (x2). You can bet the Insight planners would LOVE to see Nebraska-Oklahoma (BTN's projection).
Finally, those dudes in Ohio are projected as high as the Gator, but also as low as the Meineke Car Care Texas Bowl and the Little Caesar's Bowl. Personally, I hope Schlabach's prediction of Ohio (YTO) vs. Ohio (NTO) in the Pizza Pizza Bowl happens.
So yeah - big game coming up. Go Blue! Beat Ohio!
Geeezz nobody is giving sparty a shot in the championship game. I like it.
only so I do not have to take a day off of work to attend!
I would love to see an Ohio-Ohio matchup. I really think that Ohio has the edge. It is pretty obvious which Ohio we would all root for.
If Michigan goes to the Sugar Bowl, Sparty gets screwed, and Ohio plays the Bobcats in Detroit all of my prayers have been answered!
First things first, BEAT OHIO!
happen if Houston lost a game and was dropped out of the top 14? Would we be looking at the Big East Champ?
The Sugar would have the second to last pick, choosing between two-AQ's if Houston goes undefeated (BE champ and non-AQ autobid). If Houston loses, they can choose between either the BE champ or anyone else in the top fourteen that hasn't been picked yet. They'll pick Stanford or Oklahoma State or someone else from an AQ conference over the BE champ.
Either the OU-OSU loser or the Clemson-VT loser.
be Arkansas, whose two loses would be against the top two teams (though arkansas, georgia, and auburn have a chance to change that).
and it's been said, but this assumes Arkansas beats LSU this (?) weekend to earn a spot in the SEC championship game after all the complicated tie-breakers and beats Georgia; but LSU and 'Bama still end up #1/#2 in the BCS rankings as the top 1-loss teams. Most pundits are assuming LSU beats Arkansas and that Georgia loses in the SEC championship game, though.
Isn't the scenario Arkansas beats LSU and then LOSES to Georgia? So that Georgia is SEC champ and LSU and Bama are 1 & 2 and the SEC gets 3 teams to the BCS. If Arkansas beats both LSU and Georgia wouldn't Arkansas be either 1 or 2 and therefore only two BCS bids for the SEC?
Can someone start a thread about that story on Jim Delaney over on yahoo. I personally find Delaney to be another Gee and Gene Smith hooligan but I'm interested what people think about the 9 conference games, the elimination of BCS bowls, and the isolation of the big ten to just a midwest brand rather than national one. (as stated in the article)
Does anyone know if between the two bowls (from our point of view), is the Fiesta or the Sugar Bowl considered more prestigious or anything? Do we care which we get invited to?
My take at the moment is that I want to be in the one that we are more likely to win. Am I wrong in that assumption?
The Sugar Bowl is more prestigious..Its been one of the Big 4 Bowl games since the beginning..PLUS its New Orleans and Michigan has only played in ONE sugar Bowl..I remember I was there..we lost 9-7 to Auburn in a game we dominated but couldnt score.
I hope we get the Sugar Bowl and I hope its against a undefeated Houston which I think we have a good shot at winning....BEAT OHIO FIRST!!!!
Why Houston instead of Boise State?
I must be missing something because Boise is ahead of Houston in the BCS yet is slated for the Poinsetta Bowl due to lack of a conference hook-up to a good game. I thought the higher ranked non-bcs school in the top 12 would get the bid - apparently not.
That said, I would much prefer to play Houston as Boise is a tougher out.
about which one is ranked higher. They will only take one team from a non BCS confrence and Boise lost. If Houston loses their last game, BSU may get that spot, or they could give it to Arkansas.
they will likely win their conference. The BCS requires the following to get a non-AQ school:
1) The non-AQ school wins the conference, AND
2) that school is ranked in the top 12, or the top 16 if it is ranked higher than a BCS conference champ (which they will be because of the Big East)
Since Houston will win the conference, be ranked in the top 16 and higher than the Big East champion, they will automatically get picked regardless of how high Boise is ranked. Given that, there is virtually no chance that Boise goes to a BCS game because they won't win their conference (req'd for auto bid) and would have to be an at-large pick over teams like Stanford and Michigan.
Even if Houston loses, Boise does not have to get picked for a BCS game because they didn't win their conference. Likely the only way Boise gets picked is if it somehow wins the conference. If it does, Houston could get left out even if they are undefeated and win the conference because the BCS only has to take one non-AQ school that meets the above criteria. It's a little messy right now, but realitically, only one of either Houston or Boise is getting in. Right now, it'll be Houston because they'll win the conference. If they don't it's possible neither one will get in to the BCS.
Pretty arcane rules - thanks for the clarification.
Boise cannot win the conference. TCU is undefeated in the conference, only has 1 game left, and holds the tie breaker over Boise. Therefore, TCU has already clinched.
that TCU was on a bye-week. I was thinking they had two games left in-conference. But you're right, only UNLV is left on DEC 3.
Houston is in assuming they will be C-USA champion, but Boise will not be MWC champ (TCU).
Edit: too slow
Wow, the Orange Bowl is going to get crappy tv ratings. If tOSU ends up in the pizza bowl against Ohio U, I think we should officially re-name it the Your Tears are Delicious Bowl.
But it can't possibly be worse than the infamous ACC championship game from a few years back...
Looks like about 3,000 people are going to have a real good time.
That is the saddest picture I have ever seen. There can't be more than 10,000 people at that game.
take a look at the top left corner. That is one empty parking lot!
the picture is of the 2007 game (based on the box score shown), and officially was 53,212, but that's not at all possible. Those two teams played again in 2008, but they moved it to Tampa because of poor attendance in Jacksonville. The 2008 game was "officially" 27,360 or roughly half of the game pictured above. So, I guess it did get worse.
I say Michigan fans in Michigan go to the game to make it a road game for OSU. I'd go. It'd be fun.
Of all the real BCS teams (Big East champ excluded obviously), I think Houston is our best chance at a win. I would love to see us go up against them in the Sugar Bowl.
Obligatory knock-on-wood statement: let's take care of business next week first.
I think UM would be pretty competitive (with a very good chance of beating) with the ACC champ (VaTech or Clemson) as well.
I would not want to see UM go up against: Oregon, LSU, Alabama, Okie St. or Oklahoma.
*But of course we have to beat OSU first, which we haven't done in 7 years. It's our biggest game of this or any year and all speculation means nothing if we lose.
If Oklahoma State beats Oklahoma and the voters do the right thing and move Oklahoma State to #3 at the very least, Oklahoma State will be #2 because the computers still have them at #2 or #3 and that will probably change to #1 and #2. If that's the case, the Sugar bowl gets the first replacement and picks Bama. The Fiesta Bowl then gets the next replacement pick and the first at large pick.
The teams available would be Stanford, Boise State, Houston, Kansas State, and the Big East winner (maybe Baylor, ND, or Georgia Tech under the right circumstances). Which two teams do they pick?
I don't think they pick Stanford and Michigan because they would be in the complete shadow of the Rose Bowl as runner ups then. I could see picking Kansas State to stay with the Big12 and then Michigan as the most attractive team after that. Stanford would be another attractive choice, having the better record, but I think they take the team that will draw more of an audience and that travels better.
I would love to see OHIO play ohio. First of all because i went to high school about 20 miles from Athens and my sister and about 15 cousins went to OHIO. My brother goes to all of their games. Always gets killer seats (if you know what i mean). Also because this is the year where I think it is possible that OHIO beats ohio!!!!
I like the matchup versus Houston. We would be the best defense they have faced all year, and we could score on their defense all night.